• Game Journo who got stuck on Cuphead's tutorial responds
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They should just hire the pigeon imo.
[QUOTE=CyclonatorZ;52664973]Hitler: the original gator.[/QUOTE] It's actually about ethics in art school admissions.
[QUOTE=Mezzokoko;52665760]They should just hire the pigeon imo.[/QUOTE] "Gaming Pigeon" would make for an interesting gimmick. Reminds me of the Nintendo Power writer who was a Blue Slime.
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;52665240]Jesus, dude, calm your tits. All he said is you don't have to be [I]really[/I] good at games to review them, which is perfectly fair. I guess it depends a bit on where you set the bar for "really good", but this is an unwarranted reaction[/QUOTE] Video games are seriously business. Some guys get really uptight over silly shit like this that doesnt really matter much in the grand scheme of gaming in general. People need to worry more about game devs ripping consumers off with microtranssactions and false advertising they do constantly. On a serious note, this guy is kind of a dick for insulting people calling him out on his shitty skills. If you are watching a cooking show wouldnt you be confused if a chef couldnt propeely make an peanut butter and jelly sandwhich?
[QUOTE=Steel & Iron;52665846]"Gaming Pigeon" would make for an interesting gimmick. Reminds me of the Nintendo Power writer who was a Blue Slime.[/QUOTE] Oh shit, I remember that guy. His name was Alan and he had a beanie as I recall.
Watching people fail at puzzles is torture. Anyone remember this classic? [video=youtube;28lTUkNmdNg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28lTUkNmdNg[/video]
[QUOTE=Mezzokoko;52665760]They should just hire the pigeon imo.[/QUOTE] [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1kj6_7x4PY[/media] might do a better job
[QUOTE=Ithon;52666264][media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1kj6_7x4PY[/media] might do a better job[/QUOTE] That title is pretty inaccurate. The last bit of the video outright explains that [sp]the only reason the pidgeon did better was because they're too stupid to understand concepts like > and <.[/sp]
[QUOTE=pith_;52665713]the worst part about it is that people will defend him[/QUOTE] You have no idea, I managed to get into a twitter argument about this, even Dean himself slid into my timeline by favouriting a tweet that was protecting him
[QUOTE=pith_;52665713]the worst part about it is that people will defend him[/QUOTE] To the surprise of nobody, Tim Schafer is not only defending his statement, but signal boosting it: [media]http://twitter.com/TimOfLegend/status/906616189610106880[/media]
I'm confused as to how this became a gamergate thing.
Mention gamergape, get clicks
[QUOTE=Craptasket;52668263]Mention gamergape, get clicks[/QUOTE] Mention gamergate, get sympathy for no reason.
Lmao he said gamergate got "elected to office" What kind of bizarro universe do these loons live in
[QUOTE=Diet Kane;52668313]Lmao he said gamergate got "elected to office" What kind of bizarro universe do these loons live in[/QUOTE] I mean, duh, GamerGate == alt-right == Trump therefore GamerGate == Trump voters. As if Trump even knows what the controversy is or cares about video games unless someone convinces him that uploading footage of him pretending to play the latest CoD will raise his approval rating. Shit's real easy when you don't bother to do any research. Then again seems that's a problem with this guy in general so what a winner :v:
[QUOTE=DinoJesus;52663809]When did game reviewers get themselves stuck up their own asses anyway. It wasn't always this bad, especially not in the days of gaming magazines.[/QUOTE] when it became infested with "i have three degrees in performative art and english literature and i'm literally unemployable" types, who all took it because that's literally the only place that would take them, and then they brought in all their other starbucks dwelling friends. It's like a quasi plutocracy of morons.
[QUOTE=Mattk50;52664439]Replace video games with books and "skill" with understanding and this reads fucking hilariously.[/QUOTE] I know this was posted a while back now, but I did it, and it really [b]is[/b] hilarious: [quote=That article but replaced] Books criticism moves in cycles. This isn’t new. It’s sort of a natural occurrence since the medium is still relatively young , so when notable events occur that the entire sphere is concerned with, we end up having the same debates. It’s… frustrating, as a critic, to have to rehash the same argument about once a year, but in a way it helps keep your thoughts fresh. With that in mind, it looks like we’re talking about understanding level again. To be more specific, the conversation about the role that understanding has in critically analyzing and reviewing books has started up again. In a recent video by Venturebeat, journalist Dean Takahashi struggled to finish the first level of upcoming title Cuphead. While this incident is new, the debate about the position of understanding and challenge in books is far from recent. It was arguably the center of the conversations surrounding Dark Souls. It still is a debate whenever someone mentions older books—especially those from the 8-bit or 16-bit eras that, in comparison to more modern titles, can be tough-as-nails. Books have a long and sordid history of difficulty and the balance of challenge to satisfaction. [b]When a reviewer has trouble reading a book, the instant reaction by many crowds boils down to “If you can’t read this book, why are you in books criticism?” The implication isn’t hard to find: There is an assumption that in order to be a good books critic, you have to be good at [reading] books. [i]It’s a bad assumption, to put it simply.[/i][/b] Book culture, writ large, fetishizes understanding. [b]An individual’s understanding [of] a particular book determines the validity of the argument posed by that individual, in most common spheres of discussion. [i]But it’s not a really good barometer for critical meaning by any measure.[/i][/b] Books, especially in the modern era (with the aid of Let’s Reads, streaming, and various other methods of content absorption without mechanical interaction) are no longer simply puzzle boxes to unlock knowledge of by solving. Books are stories, conversations between reader and world, and conversations between designers and viewers. [b]The act of read[ing] itself is but one method of experiencing what we call a “book” in modern critical discussions.[/b] This has adverse other effects, as well. Understanding fetishization not only adds validity to those critiquing a book, but to those who are making books. An entire other recurring conversation in books criticism revolves around “what is a book” and most of that well is poisoned by understanding fetishization as well. [b]At some point, as a culture, books need to leave the understanding assumption behind.[/b] There’s nothing inherently good about a book that’s hard, just as there’s nothing inherently good about a book that’s easy. Or, for that matter, anything inherently praiseworthy or dismissable about critics who have a preferred style of book—even if that style is a book that’s not “that hard.” After all, they’re just books. [/quote] Changes I made: - Replaced "video game" with "book" - Replaced "videogame" with "book" - Replaced "game" with "book" - Replaced "skill" with "understanding" - Replaced "play" with "read" - Additional changes are in brackets []. I then proceeded to bold a few particular highlights that resulted.
[QUOTE=Fangz;52668239]To the surprise of nobody, Tim Schafer is not only defending his statement, but signal boosting it: [media]http://twitter.com/TimOfLegend/status/906616189610106880[/media][/QUOTE] Claiming GamerGate is still relevant because they "got elected into the white house" :v::v::v:
[quote]Another game journalist (and some say “shitlord”) saw my video. He clipped it to the 2.5 minutes of the most damning inept gameplay, and he posted it to his followers. He used me to condemn all game journalists, raising the smoldering issues around Gamergate and its focus on game journalism ethics. His post was political propaganda for the disenfranchised gamers, the sort who went from Gamergate to the alt-right and elected Donald Trump as president.[/quote] I thought he was going to just come out and say he fucked up or admit he wasn't that good or whatever. Did he really just try to invoke Trump?
Gamergate kicked my dog.
Can we just start blaming Gamergate for every insignificant problem in the world? Make it the new "Thanks Obama." Ugh, my phone battery is almost dead, these fucking alt-right gamergate assholes are stealing my phone's charge.
[QUOTE=Loofiloo;52669837]Can we just start blaming Gamergate for every insignificant problem in the world? Make it the new "Thanks Obama." Ugh, my phone battery is almost dead, these fucking alt-right gamergate assholes are stealing my phone's charge.[/QUOTE] gamergate made pewdiepie say the N word and bankrupt Venezuela, not just separate actions but one action by them that caused both to occur. Say otherwise and you're a sockpuppet.
Imagine a sport journalist suddenly work on the daily economic page. The editor would've been fired the same day.
did this dude honestly say that the act of play is one of many ways of approaching a game
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;52670530]did this dude honestly say that the act of play is one of many ways of approaching a game[/QUOTE] "Hey man, watching a movie with earmuffs on is just one way of approaching it!"
This is like an automotive journalist giving a car a poor review because he can't drive a manual.
If I may inquire, exactly how are other's defending him on this, aside from Dante Douglas?
[QUOTE=laserpanda;52670635]This is like an automotive journalist giving a car a poor review because he can't drive a manual.[/QUOTE] No, this is like automotive journalist being called unfit for his job because he can't drive manual. In his original review he readily admits that he's bad at it but still thinks it's fun. [url]https://venturebeat.com/2017/08/24/cuphead-hands-on-my-26-minutes-of-shame-with-an-old-time-cartoon-game/[/url]
[QUOTE=Vlevs;52670807]No, this is like automotive journalist being called unfit for his job because he can't drive manual. In his original review he readily admits that he's bad at it but still thinks it's fun. [url]https://venturebeat.com/2017/08/24/cuphead-hands-on-my-26-minutes-of-shame-with-an-old-time-cartoon-game/[/url][/QUOTE] Whoa, hey Dean, didn't know you had an account here!
Sort of related but why doesn't the pigeon just fly up??
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