School sends pupils wearing wrong shade of grey trousers home - Sensationalist Headlines

What the fuck is up with the school uniform fascism crap in the UK? Getting expelled because you don't wear the right clothes? As much of a disaster as my school career has been, I'm happy as hell I never had to put up with that shit since I would have never graduated elementary.

[QUOTE=Mingebox;52657855]I had enough trouble focusing in school as it was, thank you very much.[/QUOTE] I think that's more on you than it is on the people wearing a bikini to school. I have always found the idea of punishing girls "for distracting boys" to be absolutely insane. It's the [b]girl's[/b] fault for the [b]boys[/b] not being able to control themselves? How about instead of punishing the girls for the boys ogling them, you punish the boys instead - you know, the ones that are [b]actually ogling the girls[/b]? Punishing the girls for what the boys do is like punishing a someone for being a victim of a crime. "Well, if you just had less money, then they wouldn't have mugged you!" I know that isn't exactly what this thread is about, but I feel it's related, since one of the big pluses for school uniforms I always see be touted is "it helps with distractions," to which this particular issue is especially relevant.

I feel like I lucked out. I've never had to wear a full uniform, and I went to a Christian private school from kindergarten to 5th. The most they had us wear there was a t-shirt with the school's name on it. Everything else was fair game (within reason)

At my school in Scotland teachers really didn't give too much of a shit as long as you had white shirt, school tie and black/grey trousers and shoes. There was no set standard fit either so everyone turned up with slightly different styles of clothing.

Damn, my school wasn't this strict. I had to wear a White Polo with the School insignia, and grey pants, and they were manufacture by like 4 companies, so as long as the polo had the insignia, and was white, and your pants were some sort of grey, you're good to go. They didn't care about the shoes, and if your shirt weren't tucked or not for the most part (depending on the teacher if they knew you were paying attention to class or not). The only thing they really cared was if your uniform was dirty or not, which makes sense. If it was, that's when you go to the principal's office.

[QUOTE=Zezibesh;52658695]What the fuck is up with the school uniform fascism crap in the UK? Getting expelled because you don't wear the right clothes? As much of a disaster as my school career has been, I'm happy as hell I never had to put up with that shit since I would have never graduated elementary.[/QUOTE] it's fucked over here. I've seen it all, teachers not letting us take our blazers off on days where's it's peak of summer heat, clip-on ties so you can't undo your top button, detentions and teachers screaming in my face because I had my shirt untucked, all kinds of total shit. we used to have one of the most senior teachers come and inspect our uniform every morning, even lifting our trousers up to check the colour of our socks :v: this news gets lots of funnies here, but I'm honestly not surprised to see it happened here

[QUOTE=Morbo!!!;52657452]Doesn't sound suspicious at all[/QUOTE] When we had similar things at school I did wonder if the teacher pushing for it was friends with the owner or something.

I've only been to one school that had uniform requirements, and that place was one of the worst schooling experiences I've ever had. Now I'm not saying that excluding a uniform policy automatically makes your school better, but if teachers, principle and staff members in general just [I]weren't allowed[/I] to worry about kids clothing, I have a feeling more time may be spent on education.

[QUOTE=Hilton;52657531]Fuck indoctrination and control, shit isn't even about learning information, just hammering you with obeying your leaders for some schools[/QUOTE] when i was in school we wouldn't have stood up for this. we had uniforms and a dress code, but whenever they tried to make radical changes to it the students would strongly oppose it (shit like having to tuck your shirt in and having to wear leather dress shoes).

[QUOTE=portalcrazy;52657469]its more about indoctrinating children before teaching them anything useful here[/QUOTE] Past like middle school they don't really teach anything useful unless you take classes above on-level. which are generally viewed as "for the smart kids" anyway. My school has a deal worked out with our local community college where they'll pay a good portion of tuition, provide books (that they take back, obviously, so they can be reused), and have professors come to our school to teach college classes to us and have them actually count as full recognized classes at that college and beyond. Through this deal, I took college-level Composition I the first semester of my senior year, and when I dropped into regular English 12 at the end of the semester, I was gone and into Composition II at the end of day two because of how fucking low the standards were for that class. The teacher was handing out pointless busywork and it felt humiliating being in there because just a little bit before I was in a class that I actually learned things in and never felt like the work I was doing was a waste of time. tl;dr your kids aren't going to learn [I]shit[/I] their last few years of public education unless they're in higher-level classes. [editline]a[/editline] This may be different in other areas but considering this is what a higher-class public school in Oklahoma gets you, I'd recommend staying away from here for the duration of your child's development.

[QUOTE=Gmod4ever;52658719]I think that's more on you than it is on the people wearing a bikini to school. I have always found the idea of punishing girls "for distracting boys" to be absolutely insane. It's the [b]girl's[/b] fault for the [b]boys[/b] not being able to control themselves? How about instead of punishing the girls for the boys ogling them, you punish the boys instead - you know, the ones that are [b]actually ogling the girls[/b]? Punishing the girls for what the boys do is like punishing a someone for being a victim of a crime. "Well, if you just had less money, then they wouldn't have mugged you!" I know that isn't exactly what this thread is about, but I feel it's related, since one of the big pluses for school uniforms I always see be touted is "it helps with distractions," to which this particular issue is especially relevant.[/QUOTE] A) It works both ways B) Ever heard of this little thing we call puberty?

Reminds me of how we used to take our ties off and putting them in pocket just to get sent home on purpose for a day :v: I wish same trick would work at work.

[QUOTE=The golden;52657569]This isn't education. School should be shut down until they get their shit together.[/QUOTE] Exactly!

Talk about priorities. :downs:

[QUOTE=Morbo!!!;52657452]Doesn't sound suspicious at all[/QUOTE] Not really suspicious, just capitalism. Schools, among many other things, should not be under the control of profit motive.

Am I glad that I never had to deal with dress codes etc, it's just not a thing schools do over here

[QUOTE=Gmod4ever;52658719]I think that's more on you than it is on the people wearing a bikini to school. I have always found the idea of punishing girls "for distracting boys" to be absolutely insane. It's the [b]girl's[/b] fault for the [b]boys[/b] not being able to control themselves? How about instead of punishing the girls for the boys ogling them, you punish the boys instead - you know, the ones that are [b]actually ogling the girls[/b]? Punishing the girls for what the boys do is like punishing a someone for being a victim of a crime. "Well, if you just had less money, then they wouldn't have mugged you!" I know that isn't exactly what this thread is about, but I feel it's related, since one of the big pluses for school uniforms I always see be touted is "it helps with distractions," to which this particular issue is especially relevant.[/QUOTE] Punishing adolescent boys for looking at girls is some nightmare ass puritan shit my dude.

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;52657975] Any sources on that?[/QUOTE] [URL]https://www.unr.edu/nevada-today/news/2013/school-uniform-study[/URL] 'Although 90 percent of the students indicated they did not like wearing uniforms, various benefits to wearing uniforms were reported, including decreases in discipline, gang involvement and bullying; and increases in safety, ease of going to school, confidence and self-esteem.' [URL]http://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED497409.pdf[/URL] 'Through these four comparisons, a pattern emerged that indicated improvement in rates of attendance, graduation, and suspension, but not in academic proficiency or expulsion rates in these schools with uniform policies.' [URL]http://scholarworks.waldenu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3352&context=dissertations[/URL] 'The climate of the school that required uniforms was rated significantly higher on 14 of the 25 survey items, including safety, reduced bullying, and improved student learning.' Now before anyone accuses me of cherry-picking, there are also dissenting studies. [URL="https://www.jstor.org/stable/27542189"]David Brunsma's study[/URL] is probably the most well-known and repeated, and it found no discernible difference between schools with uniforms and without. But the fact is that there is evidence for both positions, which refutes the assumption in this thread that it's a settled fact that uniforms are pointless, let alone these histrionic claims that school uniforms constitute 'fascism'. As long as a school takes measures to ensure that all of their students can afford it, I don't personally see any problem with school uniforms. Best case, it improves multiple factors of school climate. Worst case, students aren't getting disciplined for indecent dress and parents don't need to worry about clothes shopping.

[QUOTE=Viper_;52660595]Punishing adolescent boys for looking at girls is some nightmare ass puritan shit my dude.[/QUOTE] It's puritan shit in both directions. Just accept that both genders ogle eachother. [editline]9th September 2017[/editline] Even more so when you're a stupid teenager.

[QUOTE=Humin;52657564]This sounds like a really bad case of OCD that she's pushing onto an entire fucking school.[/QUOTE] That's not OCD.

I think the school I went to does this sort of shit now mind you, back when I went it was just jumpers (bought from the school shop) + shirt + tie (provided), black trousers, black socks and black shoes They used to be pretty lenient about things if I recall

they should have been wearing gray pants instead of grey trousers, no excuses!

If you europeans ever wonder why we elect such dumb people and have such shit laws when we are the most powerful country on the planet. Our education system is why.

[QUOTE=J.Barnes;52657479]Reminds me of the "no shirttails" policy in middle school. Shirt had to be tucked in at ALL times. If you were caught you were warned once, twice in a day and you were in the dean's office. I remember even having teachers then that thought it was stupid.[/QUOTE] Yeah school was the same here for ages. Summer school uniform I was sweet with but Winter uniform which was a white business shirt in black pants sucked hard. Eventually they gave up and allowed us the choice of summer or winter uniform so polo t-shirt and shorts it was. Always felt stupid as fuck, especially for a public school. I don't think anyone except the assistant principal cared.

My old high school has recently started enforcing stricter uniform - a blazer with a specific colour on the inside, a jumper, a clip on tie with a specific colour on the edges, black pants and very specific black shoes. When I attended, there was a uniform policy but teachers sort of understood that wearing all black in summer can get pretty uncomfortable. My friend's brother is still in the High School of Hell™ and apparently they're not allowed to take these thick black blazers or jumpers off, even in the summer. I understand that uniforms exist so that people learn from a young age that dress codes exist and to try to reduce bullying that revolves around the wealth of someone's family YADA YADA but I don't think that means you should give all your pupils heat stroke. also, the 'one supplier' thing is v. suspicious

So they were The Wrong Trousers? At least it wasn't A Matter of Loaf and Death. The students sent hom probably had A Grand Day Out.

My school had a simple dress code where you just didn't wear anything offensive and distracting. Later additions came when l hit middle school because of the school shootings at the time. Such additions included tucking in your shirts and having see through backpacks, of course come high school those rules became non-existent overtime however you did have to shave. Hearing this just pales in many spectrums compared of what I had to uphold in school. I mean how can one be so uptight ( Well I mean of course, the obvious relations with clothing companies and schools ) ?

I wore uniforms in school, I went a private school as a kid. 1) They were really uncomfortable 2) They were sexist as fuck, girls got to wear shorts or skirts whenever they wanted. Boys had to wear slacks year round, regardless of weather. 3) They were expensive. Each uniform was about 130$. I had 5 of them so that we wouldn't have to wash it every day. 4) They would lose their shit at you as a person if your uniform was dirty. Hence 3.

[QUOTE=Mr Kotov;52658752]At my school in Scotland teachers really didn't give too much of a shit as long as you had white shirt, school tie and black/grey trousers and shoes. There was no set standard fit either so everyone turned up with slightly different styles of clothing.[/QUOTE] I just learned that the year after I left (4 years ago) that the new head teacher introduced a strict uniform code and made blazers mandatory for everyone. Before blazers were only worn by perfects and house captains. Also banned all fun events because 'school is a place for learning'.

One supplier eh? Gee I wonder what's going on here.