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Although, I do have to say, during that schism possibly one of the greatest memes of all time came into existence: HE DOES IT FOR FREE the fucking sports board got raided, holy shit of all boards it was [I]sports[/I] [editline]17th August 2017[/editline] it single handedly convinced me arthur memes are dank

[QUOTE=Rossy167;52585490]Anita was doxxed. That's not the same as someone telling her she's going to find her and kill her over the internet. I think it's impossible to deny that harassment wasn't done in the name of both "sides" of the argument, both people who fully believed in their cause, and just trolls stirring shit. Again, I'm in support of the gaming journalism was shit part and was very much into gamergate for a substantial amount of time.[/QUOTE] Anita was doxxed and threatened by a [I]game journalist[/I] whom neither the FBI nor anyone else found to be a credible threat, seeing as the person in question lived in Brazil.

[quote]"The Gamergate controversy concerns issues of sexism and progressivism in video game culture, stemming from a harassment campaign conducted primarily [...] Zoë Quinn · ‎Doxing · ‎Brianna Wu · ‎Anita Sarkeesian[/quote] It's keeping me up, but this shit - the very first result alongside others which begin in the same way that anyone who's ever heard of Gamergate in isolation is going to see when they search for the topic - is why I can't get on with people trying to discourage anyone from learning anything more about it by saying that it was a hot garbage fire where "both sides were to blame" in a vague way that says nothing about what the 'anti' camp tried to pull or excuse while also leaving parting shots at the 'pro' camp. Or trying to say that co-option of the movement was solely the domain of the political right. Or that it's over and done with when it still gets coverage and people haven't yet abandoned their pro-anti battle lines. The bias against it is heavily in favour of the 'anti' camp to the point where throwing your hands up about it still leaves a very generous space for them to fill with the straw GGer. It's irresponsible to just wade into a thread about or related to Gamergate and leave that there when you know full well that the mainstream coverage about it is anywhere between poorly informed to purposefully deceptive to it a narrative which started the moment the Wikipedia article first went up. What a shitshow that was. The kindest thing I can say for Breitbart is that it took them longer than that to start getting their grubby paws on Gamergate and their steaming piles of shit on the matter haven't stood the test of time like the Wikipedia article except in generalisations about Gamergate. It's the barely more eloquent cousin of wading into any other thread about another topic you really don't like and non-committing all the way with "lol who cares" or "uh how is this a thing???" and hoping that that everyone else who wanders by will be 'bewildered' right there with you.

[QUOTE=hexpunK;52585519]The closest thing to a goal I remember being "achieved" was actively fucking up Kotaku and Gawker in general super hard by messing with their advertisers (some of which didn't even know they had "affiliate" logos on their site if I recall), but gaming journalism is still fucked, nobody is really held to ethical standards consistently even now. Gamergate may have started with good intentions (I still question this considering how it's an off shoot of the whole "Five Guys" incident which a lot of people did use to attack those involved, it took a hot minute for people to actually realise "hey wait shit we should maybe look at the collusion thing though"), it was rapidly co-opted by alt-right shitlords like Milo (gained him a fair few fanboys) and Youtube "skeptics" like Sargon (who really was just looking for more reasons to bitch about "the left"). My recollection is a lot of the actually sane supporters of it left fairly early on thanks to this co-opting as it was just fostering a really shitty environment where there was an obsession with what Quinn or Wu or whoever was tweeting, rather than trying to find proper solutions to problems. Thankfully stuff was being done both under and outside of the flag of Gamer Gate to try and find solutions to the problems. But I cannot for the life of me fathom why anyone would want to continue flying that GG flag once shitlords like Milo got their claws into it, it took far, far too long for GG supporters to distance themselves from these dickheads.[/QUOTE] The alt-right wasn't what drove most of them away. By the end of 2014 the well of information had nearly dried up, gaming news sites were starting to report on other matters, a lot of gg communities were dead or dying, and a lot of people were tired and disappointed. Only then could it be truly co-opted.

[QUOTE=Duck M.;52585742]The seeds of the modern alt-right originated years before Trump. There's a pretty clear correlation between things like r9k posting (smug pepe/normies ESPECIALLY is notable in it's application to Trump-era memetics), meme culture, anti-feminism, gamergate, and a lot more. It's mostly a large bed of mucky water that you could see growing darker until the frogs in the swamp grew xenophobic. It's also worth noting that the whole "Moot is a Cuck" thing was in late 2014 as well, which is what I really consider to be one of the most significant periods of the terms use and memetic status. Coincidentally (or perhaps not), this is also the rough time period that Gamergate occurred in and really peaked in terms of prevalence and awareness. So my recollection really wasn't off on that mark, as far as I'm aware. [/QUOTE] What are you even doing here? You're talking about the origins of the alt-right movement and throwing gamergate in there like a buzzword when it had nothing to do with each other. You're just talking out of your ass at this point especially since you've made no correlation between memetic posting behavior with gamergate.

[QUOTE=Tetsmega;52586611]What are you even doing here? You're talking about the origins of the alt-right movement and throwing gamergate in there like a buzzword when it had nothing to do with each other. You're just talking out of your ass at this point especially since you've made no correlation between memetic posting behavior with gamergate.[/QUOTE] The clear connection lies within the growth of anti-feminist sentiment that fueled certain camps and segments of both movements. People like Anita, Quinn, Wu, while deserving of criticism, made for great rallying bases of this sentiment and provided for easy targets and scapegoats that allowed those sentiments to flourish. The connection between GG, rising anti-feminist sentiments (and the criticisms of SJWs that became mainstream throughout), and the rise of the alt-right (which does share tendencies and some beliefs with the worst of GG seen on 4chan and elsewhere) is not a coincidence. DuCT made a great point that I failed to mention--Anthony Burch, one of the principal antagonists for the GG movement, was frequently the target of the modern alt-right memetics that I've been talking about (the frequent use of the word cuck, etc.). If you look at KiA, the self-proclaimed hub of GG, there's a clear connection in the issues that affect them and often in how they respond to them. Another link that I observe frequently is in the Youtube Skeptic community, who frequently deal in the issues that affect both, which suggests that either they brought people into the fold of issues (such as immigration/the refugee crisis, LGBT issues, etc.), or that they themselves were brought into the fold and their content transitioned. Either way, these channels we're a core part of the 'gateway' and were big in bridging the Gap between modern anti-SJWisms and the early days of GG. I wouldn't say that the rise of the alt-right was [I]because[/I] of GG, but what I would say is that it was a gateway for a lot of people because some of their audience's shared grievances and tendencies. Keep in mind, this experience is mostly limited to the tendencies of 4chan users, and what I'm talking about probably doesn't apply to places like SA, GAF, and FP. As much as I butt heads with you guys, I'd easily be able to say that you guys seemed more interested in facts and rational analysis than in mudslinging. I'm not talking about the cleaner proverbial face of GG, and I'm not even talking about GG really. I'm talking about the dirty underbelly of it's community, which is, as others have pointed out, somewhat detached from the initially noble goals of the movement (which was really there from the start). I almost feel like the overlap between the communities involved is undeniable, I'm just trying to look at the historical context around it and the reasons why.

This is still going on?

[QUOTE=Savage Octane;52587018]This is still going on?[/QUOTE] It'll never end for as long as people are willing to be as corrupt as they can possibly be.

[QUOTE=Savage Octane;52587018]This is still going on?[/QUOTE] As long as videogame reviewing sites remain shady anti-consumer businesses, GamerGate will always be relevant.

[QUOTE=Savage Octane;52587018]This is still going on?[/QUOTE] people still use GG as some sort of omnipresent boogeyman that personally placed trump into office even though it's been years since all that stuff happened

[QUOTE=Diet Kane;52588235]people still use GG as some sort of omnipresent boogeyman that personally placed trump into office even though it's been years since all that stuff happened[/QUOTE] I heard Gamergate was actually started by the Soviets in 1979. It all started when the Russian Scientologists infiltrated the CIA and created the arcade game "Polybus" and everyone who played the game had their brains re-wired to hate feminism and women and worship Xenu. Then when they hit puberty their brains caused a schism allowing their bodies to replicate themselves into a new form, what was 25 people was now 50 people! They spread their hateful ideology to college campuses, and became teachers and have spent the last 25 years programming college kids to hate women and feminism and one day when Xenu returns to earth, women and feminism will be the new food source for the alien empire of Xenu as they continue their galactic quest for domination over the 3rd and 4th dimension against the natural enemy...Jesus! In all seriousness, you're right. I've seen Gamergate declared a Trumps personal army, a creation of the KKK, and even an inside job done by Russia. It gets more ridiculous as time goes on and I'm pretty sure the silly bullshit I typed above will be seen as an accepted truth one day by this crowd. Cant let a good boogeyman go to waste I suppose :/

[media]https://twitter.com/ChucklesBrown/status/898219634159009796[/media] these people are actually insane

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;52588454][media]https://twitter.com/ChucklesBrown/status/898219634159009796[/media] these people are actually insane[/QUOTE] Yep. I have a feeling its encouraged on Twitter. [IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHi-JaZUQAAdVEj.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHfePjAUMAEaf0Z.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHdRiTTXcAA5o4j.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHinP6nWsAAeXlZ.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHerpQ2XUAQCEat.jpg[/IMG] Bonus: [url]https://imgur.com/JfIQyhy[/url] I thought some of this was trolling, silly me :/

I had actually forgotten about the whole debacle I can't believe this is happening again I'm so fucking salty. Just because a swarm of idiots started lashing out at feminism on the #Gamergate battleground doesn't mean the whole thing was an alt-right conspiracy god [B]damn[/B]