Complete Oscar Nominations: "Shape of Water" gets 13, "Dunkirk" 8, "Three Billboards" 7 - Sensationalist Headlines

I think Three Billboards is probably the most overrated film in the Best Picture category tbh. But that's just an opinion.

Actually genuinely kinda mad Gosling didn't get a nomination for Officer K. One of the best performances I've seen in years and his best.

Damn was Shape of Water really that good?

I hated dunkirk so much. The story was average at best, and the non linearity of it only made me upset and confused until the stories finally matched up. I don't know why the director did that but that was a terrible decision and I would be content if he never did it ever again because fuck off.

[QUOTE=richard9311;53074738]Blade Runner should [b]definitely win[/b] for cinematography, visuals, soundmixing, sound editing, and production. [editline]23rd January 2018[/editline] So basically every category it's been nominated for.[/QUOTE] You say that but Oscars.

Why isn't Fate/Stay Night Heaven's feel part 1 nominated

[QUOTE=DeathBacon;53075520]I hated dunkirk so much. The story was average at best, and the non linearity of it only made me upset and confused until the stories finally matched up. I don't know why the director did that but that was a terrible decision and I would be content if he never did it ever again because fuck off.[/QUOTE] lmao

Dunkirk's non-linear story-telling was intended to make the audience witness each different character's story in the movie in a way that lets us see how they react to the war throughout the whole movie. If the film had been done in a linear way, then the film would first focus on one character for 20-30 minutes, then go onto the next, etc. and it would all be much boring, like watching 20 minute episodes in a series. It also allows the film to have greater suspense by showing the consequences and reactions to certain events before you know the circumstances of the event itself, which is honestly quite genius. I understand that some people might not like it, but there's no doubt Dunkirk is one of the best war films in recent years, easily.

[QUOTE=InfectedPotato;53075513]Damn was Shape of Water really that good?[/QUOTE] Speaking as a huge Del Toro fan, it wasn't as good as Pan's Labyrinth IMO but it was still really damn good, perfectly cast, and absolutely creative as all hell with top notch cinematography and soundtrack to boot. I hope it wins just because Del Toro deserves it for the effort he put into it (and everything else he does) [editline]23rd January 2018[/editline] also wow Nolan finally got a best director nomination. I'd almost be happy about it if it wasn't for the total lack of more deserving Bladerunner nominations under both best director and picture. What a jokeeee

[QUOTE=usaokay;53074801]The inclusion of Get Out and Shape of Water in Best Picture and Leading Actor/Actress seem odd, but then I remembered this: [/QUOTE] Get Out was [B][I]insanely[/I][/B] successful in proportion to its production cost (254 million dollars worldwide on a 4.5 million dollar budget). It was also a film that everyone was talking about after it came out, and it was successful across multiple demographic lines. It's a way different story than the Shape of Water, which is much more along the lines of the films Lindsay Ellis is talking about in her video.

James Franco got robbed for the Best Actor nom

[QUOTE=Mio Akiyama;53075707]James Franco got robbed for the Best Actor nom[/QUOTE] Methinks they're specifically snubbing him due to all the harassment allegations.

I haven't been this disinterested in the Oscars in a long time. Oh well, here's hoping The On Cinema Oscar special makes up for it. Sorry Gregg, no Hobbit this year.

Oh boy, films from my tiny ass country have managed to get nominated for three years in a row now (and we won the previous two times). This is huge, at least for us

[QUOTE=InfectedPotato;53075513]Damn was Shape of Water really that good?[/QUOTE] I wasn't extremely into it, even as a Del Toro fan. I feel like the wide variety of nominations is more due to the fact that it has a lot of really good separate elements (like the score being good, the production design being good, the creature effects being good, the actors being good) but I don't personally feel like every disparate element came together for the best overall movie of the year.

[QUOTE=redBadger;53075079]I think Get Out should get best picture[/QUOTE] it shouldn't be in the list it was a schlocky thriller. it's like they shoved it in to go 'see, we do celebrate black film'

[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;53075246]Fucking eeeeeveryone should. Maybe I'm just riding the hype, but it's one of my favorite movies ever.[/QUOTE] It seems like a lot of people are saying that, but I didn't really like it all that much. I get that the point of the movie was that everyone was a [B]huge[/B] unlikable asshole but that was the only thing I even remember about the movie. It was just kind of weird and not much happened. Did I just not get it?

Three Billboards was so unsatisfying and annoying to watch. The trailer made it look a lot better than it ended up being. After the twist halfway through, the second half of the movie just went to shit. I'm really amazed it's getting nominations. [editline]24th January 2018[/editline] [QUOTE=postal;53075608]Speaking as a huge Del Toro fan, it wasn't as good as Pan's Labyrinth IMO but it was still really damn good, perfectly cast, and absolutely creative as all hell with top notch cinematography and soundtrack to boot. I hope it wins just because Del Toro deserves it for the effort he put into it (and everything else he does) [editline]23rd January 2018[/editline] also wow Nolan finally got a best director nomination. I'd almost be happy about it if it wasn't for the total lack of more deserving Bladerunner nominations under both best director and picture. What a jokeeee[/QUOTE] I just loved the way Shape of Water "felt". All the actors gave great performances, the characters were interesting and just deep enough without feeling forced or super-obvious, and the visuals were perfect. I think it was my first Del Toro movie and I was really impressed, I hope he wins big.

I think Get Out should win best screenplay and Dunkirk should win best sound editing. Baby Driver deserves best editing. That's all I really saw last year that's up for awards. oh I also saw The Last Jedi and I liked it but I don't think it deserves any awards.

[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;53076757]I legit can't understand how you would think this bit okay[/QUOTE] I don't know, it felt like it had so much potential and was kind of fumbled in a lot of places. The fact that [sp]even after that amazing bar fight scene and the DNA in the fingernails bit, it just turns out "haha whoops its just one of those darn Iraq War veterans talking about burning a child alive", it's like.. Come on? Give me some satisfaction here. Not to mention nothing ever goes anywhere, nothing ever matters, the drunk cop rescues her daughters file from the burning station only to do pretty much nothing with it, and even when the sheriff was still alive he basically just went to the billboards and squatted on the ground instead of actually investigating something. Plus that weird red herring with the murdering veteran guy coming into the antique shop and insinuates that he's the killer and threatens the mother.[/sp] There was a lot of good in the movie but it felt too indecisive and scattered and just didn't execute the way I wished it had. And the ending was just plain stupid imo. I don't know, I had pretty high hopes and was let down.

[QUOTE=usaokay;53074801]The inclusion of Get Out and Shape of Water in Best Picture and Leading Actor/Actress seem odd, but then I remembered this: [/QUOTE] Are you implying that Get Out and Shape of Water were overrated Oscar Bait? I've heard nothing but praise from them since before and after they came out, and in fact am surprised to see something so spoken about get those nominations. It may be fair to say they're overrated in the sense you didn't think they lived up to the hype, but the fact that there was hype, done by people themselves, tells me otherwise. [editline]24th January 2018[/editline] [QUOTE=duckmaster;53075044]After having watched it on Netflix honestly boss baby is better than it has any right to be, while the whole premise is just stupid the animation is pretty amazing tbh.[/QUOTE] Boss Baby to me is good if you ignore the writing and the premise. I don't even mean that as tongue-in-cheek, it was charming and enjoyable at face value. It was full of holes, and the premise didn't make sense, but it wasn't [B][I]bad.[/I][/B] That said, giving it an Oscar nomination is laughable.

[QUOTE=ThePanther;53075717]I haven't been this disinterested in the Oscars in a long time. Oh well, here's hoping The On Cinema Oscar special makes up for it. Sorry Gregg, no Hobbit this year.[/QUOTE] Glad to see a fellow movie buff on here.

[QUOTE=Loadingue;53075589]Dunkirk's non-linear story-telling was intended to make the audience witness each different character's story in the movie in a way that lets us see how they react to the war throughout the whole movie. If the film had been done in a linear way, then the film would first focus on one character for 20-30 minutes, then go onto the next, etc. and it would all be much boring, like watching 20 minute episodes in a series. It also allows the film to have greater suspense by showing the consequences and reactions to certain events before you know the circumstances of the event itself, which is honestly quite genius. I understand that some people might not like it, but there's no doubt Dunkirk is one of the best war films in recent years, easily.[/QUOTE] You aren't wrong, I didn't mean to say that. It doesn't change that it sucked. Just because it might be the best recently does little to change that. I was honestly hoping it would be a movie almost entirely about the local mariners and how completely impossible the whole thing really was, instead I got no characters worth remembering with strange and timewarping introductions and plot events that jumped around so often that by the time I was getting used to what was happening it was 10 days in the future in a plane above a ship that those people were apparently in now, but oh wait now it is the beach time and we aren't all about to die in an oil fire. It has been a while so perhaps the example isn't quite as accurate as it could be, but I won't ever be rewatching that movie.

[QUOTE=srobins;53076861][sp]Come on? Give me some satisfaction here.[/sp][/QUOTE] That would run completely contrary to the themes of the movie.

[QUOTE=richard9311;53074745]But who am I kidding, the voting committee has been shown to be clueless if it wasn't a smash hit they probably haven't seen it[/QUOTE] It made more than ten times what Shape of Water or Three Billboards did opening weekend... except for Dunkirk it grossed higher than any Best Picture nominee.

I liked Dunkirk but the time-hopping editing really detracted a lot for me. I just wasn't a well-executed idea. I also almost burst out laughing when they made the big reveal that the fleet was there to save them because you only see like a dozen boats it what felt like a big pond. In any case it was worth it watching for me because I was there for the plane scenes and the ending was pretty fucking great.

I really enjoyed get out but I don't think it should be best picture Dunkirk was equally as good but again, don't think it deserves best picture either. Tho Nolan does deserve an award for his directing

Gary Oldman is a shoe-in to win Best Actor. He was seriously amazing in Darkest Hour, well that and whoever did his costume.

I have no idea why people take the Oscars seriously anymore, they are a massive joke.

[QUOTE=Tsyolin;53077810]Gary Oldman is a shoe-in to win Best Actor. He was seriously amazing in Darkest Hour, well that and whoever did his costume.[/QUOTE] IIRC he hasn't gotten an oscar for anything despite doing so many amazing roles