As Ghost In The Shell (2017) bombs, a new anime has been green-lit - Sensationalist Headlines

Eh the movie wasn't bad, it didn't deserve to bomb. Shame really, they did a really good job with the film, but a slightly lackluster plot with some bland acting from Scarjo probably messed it up. Being rated low for "whitewashing" probably didn't help either.

[QUOTE=CruelAddict;52071417]Strongly disagree. I liked Arise a lot more than SAC.[/QUOTE] anime girl spider mine bombs

In my opninion, Arise felt very shallow compared to SAC. I also didn't like the 'original spin' they gave to the characters.

[QUOTE=sitoncio.dev;52071636]On the first week: [B]Box Office - $73.7m[/B] US - $23m Worldwide - $50.6m against a [B]Budget of $110m[/B] With a loss of $60m i'd believe this bombed for them, pretty much.[/QUOTE] What the shit are you talking about? To make back $73m of a $110m budget in one week is great. What, do you think the revenue will suddenly stop at week two?

[QUOTE=download;52073749]What the shit are you talking about? To make back $73m of a $110m budget in one week is great. What, do you think the revenue will suddenly stop at week two?[/QUOTE] Because opening week/end is the single strongest moment for any movie release and where most of the revenue comes from.

[QUOTE=Banned?;52073762]Because opening week/end is the single strongest moment for any movie release and where most of the revenue comes from.[/QUOTE] Yes, the first week is usually the strongest. Very, very few movies however make everything back in the first week. Even if revenue halves every week from now on they're well on track to recoup their investment.

[QUOTE=download;52073749]What the shit are you talking about? To make back $73m of a $110m budget in one week is great. What, do you think the revenue will suddenly stop at week two?[/QUOTE] Not 73, far lower (general rule of thumb is you get about 3/4 to 1/2 of the box office back due to various cuts of the pie and other budgets). And thats worldwide, not the US. Also yes usually the money coming in drops off pretty sharply after a the first week or two iirc (though of course that depends on the movie).

[QUOTE=download;52073749]What the shit are you talking about? To make back $73m of a $110m budget in one week is great. What, do you think the revenue will suddenly stop at week two?[/QUOTE] Plus there's the advertising budget, then they need to make a profit, preferably twice the budget. Even if it doesn't flat out bomb, it's going to be a failure, and Paramount is probably going to lose money.

[QUOTE=download;52073749]What the shit are you talking about? To make back $73m of a $110m budget in one week is great. What, do you think the revenue will suddenly stop at week two?[/QUOTE] This is true. Hopefully at least they get to fill the budget. The thing is that I think it's the first week that matters the most for the production company to make it a success, in any other case it's just failure for them (for their schedules). Also, sorry if that post sounded too arrogant

People (or producers) who are in the business of making movies are rarely satisfied with just making their money back. Even if the movie is good, should it not make at least double what it cost then people will say it wasn't successful. If it makes a lot of money the decision makers will completely shut out the negative, as in the case of Avatar or Transformers

I think the movie was good, not as memorable as GITS 1995 obviously, but they respected the source material unlike many other western adaptations, the plot is what you'd expect from a GITS movie, but without the long and complex dialogues and with more action to appeal to a wider audience, and that's what brings it down compared to the original. Scarlett doesn't help, she always has this damned "fish out of water" look on her face for the whole movie.

[QUOTE=Batandy;52075179]I think the movie was good, not as memorable as GITS 1995 obviously, but they respected the source material unlike many other western adaptations, the plot is what you'd expect from a GITS movie, but without the long and complex dialogues and with more action to appeal to a wider audience, and that's what brings it down compared to the original. Scarlett doesn't help, she always has this damned "fish out of water" look on her face for the whole movie.[/QUOTE] hard to say they respected the source material when they crammed a bunch of scenes from the previous iterations into the movie and went, "hey kids, remember these?" and were devoid of all meaning they originally had for the sake of sucking dick for nostalgia money.

The plot is not what you'd expect from Ghost in the Shell, its what you'd expect from a Paul Verhoeven movie in 1987. If Paul Verhoeven and Michael Neumeier both had a stroke.

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[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;52075421]The plot is not what you'd expect from Ghost in the Shell, its what you'd expect from a Paul Verhoeven movie in 1987. If Paul Verhoeven and Michael Neumeier both had a stroke.[/QUOTE] it felt more like a rejected script of that robocop reboot tbh

[QUOTE=mchapra;52075425]it felt more like a rejected script of that robocop reboot tbh[/QUOTE] this. the movie was basically a much more polished robocop reboot.

ARISE wasn't good because it is a generic sci-fi and it simplified all the concepts and discussion behind ghost and technology to appeal the lowest common denominator audience. the script was okay at best, but instead of letting the audience think about the morals behind events in the story, ARISE explicitly tell you everything and even states what's good and bad, which makes a lot of event felt way shallow that those in SAC. each 4 episodes of ARISE have a different theme, and as a result the whole thing feels disconnect since the atmosphere can be very different when you move on to the next episode. the worst part of ARISE is gotta be the music, it's really bad and there aren't much that I can talk about it. Overall, ARISE is like a think piece of current technology topics rather than an actual psychology discussion between humanity and technology that most GitS fans expected. But still, ARISE is not that bad as a sci-fi ova if you can look past the Ghost in the Shell name that it was tagged with. Meanwhile SAC was just too good that watching ARISE after you've seen SAC is gonna feel a lot cheaper. [editline]8th April 2017[/editline] I haven't seen the Hollywood movie yet because the dubstep trailer really put me off and scarlett johansson feels like she don't know what she is doing in the trailer. However, now that some people are saying its not a bad sci-fi film I might actually go to have a look at it.

[QUOTE=mchapra;52075425]it felt more like a rejected script of that robocop reboot tbh[/QUOTE] its like the writters went back to the trash bin and retrieved the alternate scripts from the robocop and total recall reboots and slapped a bunch of shots from the anime. I fear not only this was bad for anyone who considers himself an anime fan, but it also talks lenghts of how dumbed down a plot has to be to be marketed for western audiences.

[QUOTE=mchapra;52075425]it felt more like a rejected script of that robocop reboot tbh[/QUOTE] Never saw the reboot. So I compare to the original. Funny though.

[QUOTE=BeardyDuck;52075262]hard to say they respected the source material when they crammed a bunch of scenes from the previous iterations into the movie and went, "hey kids, remember these?" and were devoid of all meaning they originally had for the sake of sucking dick for nostalgia money.[/QUOTE] Also some of the characters too I was a little annoyed that Togusa (whose the most relatable character in SAC for me) gets like one 5 second scene :v:

[QUOTE=Saxon;52076720]Also some of the characters too I was a little annoyed that Togusa (whose the most relatable character in SAC for me) gets like one 5 second scene :v:[/QUOTE] Ok now this is bullshit, how could you give the most human character a 5 second scene

[QUOTE=Mio Akiyama;52076996]Ok now this is bullshit, how could you give the most human character a 5 second scene[/QUOTE] [sp]He gets one scene early on where they make it very explicitly clear to point out that he is Togusa. He then disappears until a scene near the end of the movie where he is in a little shop and some guys try to ambush him, and he shoots them. In fact, if not for the fact they make it explicitly clear to show off his revolver, you might not even realize it is him. Saito makes a brief appearance for a moment at the end as well, and Ishikawa is seen but I do not remember them ever naming him, you just have to recognize him.[/sp]

Maybe if they did something original with the plot to extend or continue the universe instead of telling the same story again it wouldn't have tanked as hard