UK Man Flashes Woman with Sausage Roll - Goes to Court - Sensationalist Headlines

I honestly doubt a Jury will throw the book at this bloke. Not sure why you'd pretend to flash your cock at a stranger though.

How the fuck do you survive in this society if you get scarred for life by something that originally looks like a penis but is later clarified to be a sausage roll like lmao dude come on.

[QUOTE=double D;52942679]How the fuck do you survive in this society if you get scarred for life by something that originally looks like a penis but is later clarified to be a sausage roll like lmao dude come on.[/QUOTE] How the fuck do you survive in this society if you wave a sausage roll around in front of your groin and pretend it's a penis then get mad when you later get slapped with a light penalty for doing that like lmao dude come on.

[QUOTE=Headhumpy;52942750]How the fuck do you survive in this society if you wave a sausage roll around in front of your groin and pretend it's a penis then get mad when you later get slapped with a light penalty for doing that like lmao dude come on.[/QUOTE] I know you're busy being offended but please notice that it doesn't say it was on purpose, the exact opposite even.

[QUOTE=Crimor;52942758]I know you're busy being offended but please notice that it doesn't say it was on purpose, the exact opposite even.[/QUOTE] How was waving a phallic-shaped, vaguely flesh-colored object where his penis happened to be not on purpose? Like, I wouldn't shout at people, "I'm gonna fucking kill you!" and then when people are alarmed just reply, "it's just a prank, bro, stop being sensitive."

[QUOTE=Crimor;52942758]I know you're busy being offended but please notice that it doesn't say it was on purpose, the exact opposite even.[/QUOTE] "Officer, I understand how it looks but please hear me out. I was daydreaming, my thoughts started wandering, and before I knew it I found myself flopping the sausage roll around in front of my dick. It was a complete accident I swear!"

I understand that yeah, someone waving a phalic object on his crotch in front of you could be a really umpleasant experience to some people (honestly i would laugh if someone does that). But to change your time and route of work just of that? really? I think thats just the woman going quite overboard with the problem, if the dude was like a meter or 2 close to her and waving his actual dick, then yeah I would understand that.

[QUOTE=Headhumpy;52942823]"Officer, I understand how it looks but please hear me out. I was daydreaming, my thoughts started wandering, and before I knew it I found myself flopping the sausage roll around in front of my dick. It was a complete accident I swear!"[/QUOTE] "I'm sorry but I'm placing you under arrest for inappropriately displaying food"

Penises make me cry :cry: [editline]4th December 2017[/editline] I've been cucked by Greggs.

[QUOTE=ZnT00;52942113]Man I dunno about you but if I was walking down the street, and someone had this: [t]https://i.imgur.com/7xVjDZS.jpg[/t] Hanging out of their pants, I'd probably think it was a dick, at [I]least [/I]at first glance.[/QUOTE] If someone had one of those hanging out their pants i'd be straight on me knees

Ban this sick filth

[QUOTE=SamPerson123;52940936]I don't think this is harmless, it's definitely sexual harassment.[/QUOTE] People like you make actual sexual harassment seem like a fucking joke.

We clearly need to ban all the sausages, they're endangering everyone's lives

Reading this thread has made me want a sausage roll now.

[QUOTE=Strontboer;52948166]People like you make actual sexual harassment seem like a fucking joke.[/QUOTE] There are varying degrees of sexual harassment, and this kind of garbage thinking is what normalises milder forms of harassment as being acceptable.

I'm pretty surprised to see the reaction to this story, thought I'd see a lot more sympathy for the woman in this situation around here. Like don't get me wrong, I am [I]thoroughly[/I] on the side of the fence that this is more funny than anything else and this shouldn't be labeled as sexual harassment. But this dude was trying to trick someone into thinking he was flashing his penis. As harmless as this might be, what kind of person does that? How should a random stranger react to a thirty year old man trying to give that impression? I actually can not tell what his mindset was going into this situation, and purely on that basis I think everyone should be a bit more open to the charges he got. None of his charges were sexual in nature. He's being charged with behaving in a disorderly manner and causing this woman distress. That is [I]entirely[/I] accurate to the situation and imo, absolutely appropriate. You don't make that kind of joke to strangers, seriously. That's some shit you pull on your mates at a party, not a random woman on the street. I don't blame her or the police for going forward and pressing charges, but as I said before - calling this sexual harassment or anything more serious than that is laughable.

This is really no different from gesturing at your crotch to a stranger. Is this the sort of thing I'd do? Absolutely, but I wouldn't do it to a woman in the street. And I wouldn't want someone to do it towards my partner or sister

[QUOTE=Headhumpy;52948226]There are varying degrees of sexual harassment, and this kind of garbage thinking is what normalises milder forms of harassment as being acceptable.[/QUOTE] There's obviously a gray area when it comes to what constitutes sexual harassment. Not everyone responds the same way to things, and if you put yourself too far towards the safe catch-all approach, you just end up with a bunch of draconian laws.

[QUOTE=Johnny Joe;52942163]Ain't sexual harassment though.[/QUOTE] Would it be sexual harassment if it was a rubber dildo rather than a sausage roll, or is 'gotcha, it's not really my dick' always a free pass? It's harassment, and it's sexual in nature. Seems pretty straightforward to call it sexual harassment. Why is this thread full of people acting like labeling it sexual harassment means it must be a heinous crime that must deserve serious punishment or something?

People are so mentally frail these days, how can someone even manage to leave the house when they're so scarred by a fucking sausage roll that they feel they have to change their entire lifestyle.

[QUOTE=WillerinV1.02;52948312]I'm pretty surprised to see the reaction to this story, thought I'd see a lot more sympathy for the woman in this situation around here. Like don't get me wrong, I am [I]thoroughly[/I] on the side of the fence that this is more funny than anything else and this shouldn't be labeled as sexual harassment. But this dude was trying to trick someone into thinking he was flashing his penis. As harmless as this might be, what kind of person does that? How should a random stranger react to a thirty year old man trying to give that impression? I actually can not tell what his mindset was going into this situation, and purely on that basis I think everyone should be a bit more open to the charges he got. None of his charges were sexual in nature. He's being charged with behaving in a disorderly manner and causing this woman distress. That is [I]entirely[/I] accurate to the situation and imo, absolutely appropriate. You don't make that kind of joke to strangers, seriously. That's some shit you pull on your mates at a party, not a random woman on the street. I don't blame her or the police for going forward and pressing charges, but as I said before - calling this sexual harassment or anything more serious than that is laughable.[/QUOTE] Personally, I think there's a difference between being an annoying jerk and being illegally disruptive. I would put this into the prior and not the latter. This wouldn't have any lasting impact, or even any real immediate impact, on any mentally stable person.

[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;52948334]There's obviously a gray area when it comes to what constitutes sexual harassment. Not everyone responds the same way to things, and if you put yourself too far towards the safe catch-all approach, you just end up with a bunch of draconian laws.[/QUOTE] Civil laws on charges like harassment, disturbing public peace, and other similarly vague offenses are often misunderstood, eg: [QUOTE=Noss;52942341]They had a point. What if other kids farther away from his table thought that it was a real gun? He should have been charged for potentially alarming them and making them feel afraid.[/QUOTE] In the US, UK, and pretty much every other first-world country, crimes like assault and harassment are judged on matters of [I]perception[/I], using a standard based on what a typical person would consider reasonable, with culpability determined by [I]intent[/I]. A reasonable person would not consider a pop-tart eaten into the shape of a gun to be a deadly weapon, and if you're not actively using it like a weapon there is no intent. It doesn't matter if some fragile person becomes deeply upset that you're mimicking a gun with a pastry, it's not going to court. However, if you hold up a store with a pop-tart hidden under a sweatshirt while telling the clerk you have a gun, a reasonable person would be concerned that you actually have a gun, and you are clearly using it with the intent to intimidate. The fact that it's really a pop-tart doesn't matter; you're going to be tried for assault with a deadly weapon. If you don't believe me, look at how cases involving toy guns are charged. If a reasonable person would mistake it for a weapon, and you're using it in a way that suggests you want it to be perceived as a weapon, the court treats it exactly like a weapon. If you act like you're threatening someone with a gun, and they think you're threatening them with a gun, and the court agrees that a reasonable person would think they're being threatened with a gun, you're going to be tried and charged exactly as if you actually had a gun. The charge of assault is about how you make someone feel (ie afraid for their safety), not whether or not you actually had the capability to hurt them. It's the same with harassment; it's a legal idea based on emotional harm, determined by your intent and how your actions would be perceived by a reasonable person. If you idly hold a neon green baseball bat by your groin, no reasonable person would mistake it for you flashing them. But if you do the same with something a little more phallic, and then follow and actively harass someone with it, the court might decide that a reasonable person would mistake it for you flashing them. And then that's harassment, because you are both deliberately acting as if you're flashing them and a reasonable person would (incorrectly) believe you're actually flashing them. If you act like you're flashing someone, and they think you're flashing them, then if the legal system decides that a reasonable person would think they're being flashed, the law will treat you as if you'd actually flashed them. You've caused emotional harm, you did it deliberately, and a normal person in the same situation would also perceive the same emotional harm- that's harassment. Whether it's technically sexual harassment or not depends on the specifics, and in the US, where sexual harassment is a workplace violation, this wouldn't be considered as such. Colloquially, though, I think harassing someone by making them think you're exposing yourself to them fits the bill.

guys can we please calm down. it's just a pig's penis.

[QUOTE=Dominic0904;52948218]Reading this thread has made me want a sausage roll now.[/QUOTE] greggs pastries are low-tier, don't do it to yourself

[quote] In a statement, the woman said she had been left feeling “alarmed and afraid”. She added: “As a result of this, I will change my route and the time I go to work. I don’t think anyone should behave in this manner.”[/quote] She's right, a functioning adult shouldn't have reacted to a sausage roll by changing her daily routine and work travel schedule.

i think that smacking the dude in the face and telling him to grow up would've been an equally effective and more immediate punishment for being a dumbass