Good Samaritan in US beaten, forced to leave town after being mistaken for kidnapper - Sensationalist Headlines

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;52413769]While of course there is sexism against men, is this really a good point to bring up when it was the father who assaulted him and accused him of being a sexual predator?[/QUOTE] Well you can be sexist against your own gender, and if the stereotype/stigma that caused this event is rooted in sexism then yes?

First step when you find a kid is to immediately find the nearest woman and call her to you. otherwise EVERY MAN WITH EVERY CHILD EVERYWHERE IS A PEDOPHILE FOREVER

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;52413792]Internalized sexism? Just because he's a man doesn't mean he doesnt live in a society that somehow managed to paint men as unwelcome around children.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=jiggu;52413845]Well you can be sexist against your own gender, and if the stereotype/stigma that caused this event is rooted in sexism then yes?[/QUOTE] Sure. It's sexism if he had the prejudice that this person is a sex offender because he's a man. While it is possible that the father thought this man was a sex offender based on the fact that he's a man, and there are actual people who believe that a man being with a child = pedo, bringing up how this is a case of sexism isn't really that strong especially when the best evidence to support this case is "well it happens in other cases". And to be honest neither is my claim of "The father likely wasn't sexist against the good samaritan because they're both men", it's the same level of reasoning of "well it happens."

[QUOTE=jiggu;52413290]What the fuck is this actually real?[/QUOTE] 100% real. I've been questioned by parents and police when I take my daughter somewhere without her mother, or when I interact with my nieced and nephews when my sister isnt around. I outright refuse to go outside with them now without their mothers preswnt. As an adult male, I would never help a child for this exact reason. In the end, I'd get my ass kicked and run out of town. Or if I performed CPR on a person and broke a rib, then I'd get sued for damages. US society is pretty much set up to place fault on good samaritans. Yea I'd like to help people and children in need, but I cant risk my livelihood or wellbeing to do so.

[QUOTE=snookypookums;52413340] Oddly, after getting grilled by these random strangers when I was entrusted to keep my nieces safe at the playarea, I was the one left feeling unsafe and unwelcome. I never did it again, except when my sister was also present and we could chat while they played - it felt really weird and kinda colored my interaction with children when I came back to India after the vacation too. :frown:[/QUOTE] I would keep doing it anyway because these people need to have their small minded views challenged and they need to be asked why they think its OK to harass someone who is just looking after a young family member at the park. The problem is we avoid these kinds of things because of those reactions, but this then contributes to the thinking further because it becomes even more of a strange/alien thing that someone could say anything to a kid that isnt theirs in public or that a man can be seen looking after a kid/sitting at the playground without the suspicion that they are a pedophile.

[QUOTE=snookypookums;52413340]Unfortunately so - turns out my brother-in-law also had similar problems taking the kids to the neighborhood swimming pool, too. I could at least understand in my case because neither of the two have any resemblance to me, but this shit happens. My sister ended up raising a stink about it during a neighborhood watch committee (as she told it to me after I left) and shortly after, that incident with the Indian grandfather getting bodyslammed into the pavement happened, so unfortunately, even then the real takeaway from the committee was "If they're brown and you can identify what a desi person looks like, leave them the fuck alone they'll handle themselves." By contrast, here in India we're just taught as kids that interacting with adults is okay, as long as they don't touch you in a way that you feel is uncomfortable or painful or they try to give you something to eat/drink that you haven't asked for. Oddly, after getting grilled by these random strangers when I was entrusted to keep my nieces safe at the playarea, I was the one left feeling unsafe and unwelcome. I never did it again, except when my sister was also present and we could chat while they played - it felt really weird and kinda colored my interaction with children when I came back to India after the vacation too. :frown:[/QUOTE] god, fuck those people and anyone with a similar mindset. i don't know what it is that makes me more angry, the blatant sexism or the blatant racism. sorry that you have to go through that. hopefully if you're ever back in america you can find a community that will treat you with some type of respect.

Girlfriend's father took her and her brother to the store, and he got stopped by store employees and police as he was trying to leave because they just assumed he was kidnapping the both of them because one of them was crying. Several male teachers at her highschool [I]and[/I] mine have been accused of sexual harassment by female students and outright fired [I]and[/I] blacklisted without even a token investigation. In the united states, its simply dangerous to be an adult man interacting with minors without a woman present. [I]but no, sexism towards men doesn't exist.[/I]

[QUOTE=Gamerman12;52414209]god, fuck those people and anyone with a similar mindset. i don't know what it is that makes me more angry, the blatant sexism or the blatant racism. sorry that you have to go through that. hopefully if you're ever back in america you can find a community that will treat you with some type of respect.[/QUOTE] Honestly, I'm over it but it was quite an upsetting experience in general because it made me rethink a lot of my perspectives on things. My sister felt bad about it because she also knew these people and they [I]loved[/I] her and the kids, but since it was the first time I showed up, she didn't know whether it was just their overt concern so she had to deal with it on two fronts. In any case, I made a number of really annoying observations in general when it came to dealing with children and both genders that I thought I'd share: a) The double standard: When a dad wants to spend time with his kids, it's "being stuck on babysitting duty". Women? No such terminology except "just the daily grind". It annoyed my sister to no end when someone would learn that my sister was having a girls night out and my brother-in-law was looking after the kids for the first response to go "Oh, he's stuck on babysitting duty, huh?" like it was a chore for him to want to spend time with his own kids. b) The weird gender-specific sexualization - This came more from my brother in law. When it's a boy child, the discussion is pretty much "Aww, he looks so much like his daddy/mommy". With girls? "Oh wow, you're going to have to fend off boys with a stick when she's older!". She's just a few days old, was that really necessary?

[QUOTE=Thaggers;52412528]A shame he agreed not to file charges. This kind of kneejerk bullshit is why nobody bothers to help people anymore.[/QUOTE] Shit like this makes me really fucking nervous, especially because sometimes as an xray tech I have to feel and find anatomical landmarks on pediatric patients. My worst fear is getting accused of trying to diddle someone's kid.

[QUOTE=Johnny Joe;52412776]By why is that thinking so widespread and accepted? What happened to make people think only men do this or that women are incapable even when it seems both sexes seem pretty capable of terrible things a la "high school teacher found having sex with her students"?[/QUOTE] Pedo hysteria, the Stranger Danger campaign, and homophobia happened In a nutshell, roughly around the sixties and seventies there were a [I]lot[/I] of PSAs and awareness campaigns for child safety. The Stranger Danger campaign is one of them and it's a slogan just about every child in the US is bound to have heard at some point. The emphasis of the campaign is that children should [I]never[/I] talk to strangers, because every adult you don't know is a potential predator Why it's men who get the lion's share of pedo hysteria also owes a lot to those awareness campaigns [quote][media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_NAl4AkmjU[/media] [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6LMlHiBzj4[/media][/quote] I think these pretty much speak for themselves PSAs like this were still being made and used well up into the eighties, multiple generations in the US were brought up learning this shit, and when you couple it with the 24 hour news effect and the tendency to sensationalize the hell out of things, it ought to be a no brainer how things got this bad

[media]http://youtube.com/watch?v=jaUkt59vY1Q[/media] Still relevant as ever I see.

Cases like this remind me of a movie called [URL="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2106476/"]The Hunt[/URL]. It's a must watch for everyone.

Astounding I hope the parents get a injury to their legs and nobody comes to help them, it'd be justice then.