Wouldn't this also be useful for de-extinction? Seeing as you wouldn't need to find a surrogate mother of a similar, extant species
so fuckign cool
[QUOTE=Zergeant;52152134]A future where we can have robot wives with proper human reproduction systems. The patriarchy is looking bright boys.[/QUOTE]
[media]https://youtu.be/IeYrUyb-8f8[/media]
[QUOTE=Rolond Returns;52152570]oshit guyonbroadway you're still around
and yeah it looks pretty grim and scary-medical but the precedent is huuuge[/QUOTE]
I never left...
On an interesting note how would this affect other ethical issues like abortion?
A lot of Pro-Choice people agree that it's the right for someone to terminate a pregnancy as long as the fetus is currently in a state where artificial means cannot be used to keep it alive and bring it to full term.
As this technology advances and we can save babies from earlier and earlier stages will we reach a point where any form of pregnancy can be sustained externally and artificially such that the right to termination is now overwritten by the precedent that any embryo can be brought to term by an external machine?
Neither the technology to sustain a fetus nor the right to terminate a pregnancy are "wrong" so the issues regarding this are going to be complicated.
[QUOTE=download;52152691]I hope technophobia doesn't stop this from happening.[/QUOTE]
I too hope that it won't be thrown out without considering the good it could do.
Technology is moving towards some crazy shit, and no doubt many people will be uncomfortable with a lot of it. I'll admit I felt uneasy looking at that illustration.
So, Wouldn't this mean the next stage for c-sections is basically not having the child at all? Because i imagine it would go this way given time.
[QUOTE=thisguy123;52152954]I never left...
On an interesting note how would this affect other ethical issues like abortion?
A lot of Pro-Choice people agree that it's the right for someone to terminate a pregnancy as long as the fetus is currently in a state where artificial means cannot be used to keep it alive and bring it to full term.
As this technology advances and we can save babies from earlier and earlier stages will we reach a point where any form of pregnancy can be sustained externally and artificially such that the right to termination is now overwritten by the precedent that any embryo can be brought to term by an external machine?
Neither the technology to sustain a fetus nor the right to terminate a pregnancy are "wrong" so the issues regarding this are going to be complicated.[/QUOTE]
A lot of the argument behind pro-choice stances centers around the economic costs of raising a child: that's not going to go away, even if we can potentially save the child. That's not to mention that some of the most severe issues around pregnancies are critically life threatening to mother and child, and that extracting the child alive without killing the mother can be tremendously difficult.
I don't think it really changes things much, and I don't think the reality is as complicated as you make it out to be.
[QUOTE=paindoc;52153774]A lot of the argument behind pro-choice stances centers around the economic costs of raising a child: that's not going to go away, even if we can potentially save the child. That's not to mention that some of the most severe issues around pregnancies are critically life threatening to mother and child, and that extracting the child alive without killing the mother can be tremendously difficult.
I don't think it really changes things much, and I don't think the reality is as complicated as you make it out to be.[/QUOTE]
Furthermore I imagine the operation involved in embryo transplant (after its embedded in the uterine lining) isn't some easy low-risk non-invasive surgery. So forcing a woman to go through that would be medically unethical. Not to mention foetus transplant.
[QUOTE=Sims_doc;52153552]So, Wouldn't this mean the next stage for c-sections is basically not having the child at all? Because i imagine it would go this way given time.[/QUOTE]
i wonder, if everyone were incubated in artificial wombs, would we eventually lose the ability to naturally reproduce? i'm talking over the scale of many hundreds of thousands of years
[QUOTE=Exploders;52152244]I'll finally be able to have my waifu bear my child.[/QUOTE]
Gentlemen, we just solved Japan's problem.
[QUOTE=Destroyox;52154400]Gentlemen, we just solved Japan's problem.[/QUOTE]
Japan's problem is far more complex than relationships.
Awesome when real life devices look like sinister movie super-science
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;52154449]Japan's problem is far more complex than relationships.[/QUOTE]
I think low birthrate is a good place to start.
[QUOTE=Destroyox;52154926]I think low birthrate is a good place to start.[/QUOTE]
I assume you still need an "egg" to fertilize the sperm with.
Which means men still need women, so for as long as Japan has a bad "dating" life, their issue will be unsolved
[QUOTE=da space core;52155148]I assume you still need an "egg" to fertilize the sperm with.
Which means men still need women, so for as long as Japan has a bad "dating" life, their issue will be unsolved[/QUOTE]
Pfft. Go to IVF and sperm banks.
lambchops, prepackaged and ready to go on the shelves.
why does this look so much like the creepy blood bank from blade.
now the real question is can we give babies additional trimesters.
can we make a human that never will be born.
[QUOTE=thisguy123;52152954]I never left...
On an interesting note how would this affect other ethical issues like abortion?
A lot of Pro-Choice people agree that it's the right for someone to terminate a pregnancy as long as the fetus is currently in a state where artificial means cannot be used to keep it alive and bring it to full term.
As this technology advances and we can save babies from earlier and earlier stages will we reach a point where any form of pregnancy can be sustained externally and artificially such that the right to termination is now overwritten by the precedent that any embryo can be brought to term by an external machine?
Neither the technology to sustain a fetus nor the right to terminate a pregnancy are "wrong" so the issues regarding this are going to be complicated.[/QUOTE]
You can now put your unwanted fetus up for adoption instead of killing it! Everyone wins.
[QUOTE=Ithon;52155615]now the real question is can we give babies additional trimesters.
can we make a human that never will be born.[/QUOTE]
Why though? :V
[QUOTE=JerryAnderson;52155969]Why though? :V[/QUOTE]
evolve into sci fi fetuses.
[QUOTE=Ithon;52155615]now the real question is can we give babies additional trimesters.
can we make a human that never will be born.[/QUOTE]
"32 year old man now longest surviving human in artificial womb."
[QUOTE=Ithon;52155615]now the real question is can we give babies additional trimesters.
can we make a human that never will be born.[/QUOTE]
I may have left the womb but I havent left my room,
does that count?
[QUOTE=Ithon;52155615]now the real question is can we give babies additional trimesters.
can we make a human that never will be born.[/QUOTE]
That is something I have been thinking about. We've all seen stories where beings are grown in tubes and keep growing to the point where they're basically adults physiologically. Could we actually pull that off, or would there be a point where the accelerated growth of the womb automatically stops and puts us on the track of regular growth?
And with that, yet another question is raised. Since the bag would be transparent, by the time a baby is able to open their eyes, would they be able to see the world beyond the bag? Could we use visual stimuli in that circumstance to promote mental growth, like how we can play music to babies in the womb?
[QUOTE=ironman17;52156861]And with that, yet another question is raised. Since the bag would be transparent, by the time a baby is able to open their eyes, would they be able to see the world beyond the bag? Could we use visual stimuli in that circumstance to promote mental growth, like how we can play music to babies in the womb?[/QUOTE]
How beauteous mankind is! O brave new world!
[QUOTE=ironman17;52156861]That is something I have been thinking about. We've all seen stories where beings are grown in tubes and keep growing to the point where they're basically adults physiologically. Could we actually pull that off, or would there be a point where the accelerated growth of the womb automatically stops and puts us on the track of regular growth?
And with that, yet another question is raised. Since the bag would be transparent, by the time a baby is able to open their eyes, would they be able to see the world beyond the bag? Could we use visual stimuli in that circumstance to promote mental growth, like how we can play music to babies in the womb?[/QUOTE]
if a human could operate the outside world within their womb, they wouldn't have the built up muscle tissue for locomotion. And if those being can produce offspring, they could evolve without ligaments.
ergo a fetus.
Now if you could carry your umbilical cord around, we would have death stranding.
Which this project might actually be an ARG for death stranding such as the doctor who will be doing a head transplant soon was an ARG for metal gear solid 5.
Funnily enough, that WAS one of the things I was thinking about when I first heard about this "lamb-in-a-bag" thing. It made me think about that recent-ish trailer for the game, the one where the guy was carrying a baby about in a life support thingy.
Why the ziplock bags though? Sci-fi made me expect a giant tube.
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