Students on first-name basis with teachers as titles become old school - Sensationalist Headlines

I feel like my country is very behind on this, in early primary school all the way to high school I experienced the transition from tovariš (literally tovarish/comrade) to učitelj (teacher) or profesor, I even remember my class being told we shouldn't use tovariš anymore as it's considered outdated now :v: the idea of even moving from a title to a first name basis isn't something I ever even considered and I can't imagine calling any one of my teachers or professors by their first name. [editline]6th February 2018[/editline] [QUOTE=Bomimo;53110830]Been like this since at least 95 in Denmark. English speaking world confirmed entering the 21st century presently.[/QUOTE] :saddowns:

I always thought that the last name thing was just to prepare students for jobs where many bosses expect to not be referred to by their first name. I know in a lot of smaller, younger businesses being on a first-name basis with everyone at the company is normal, but for larger companies I think bosses expect to be called Mr. or Mrs. or Sir or Ma'am or whatever. Inherently, I don't think calling teachers by their first name is bad at all, but if it becomes normal then kids might have trouble adapting to the respect required by job interviewers/company higher-ups.

[QUOTE=Dumpus;53111376]I always thought that the last name thing was just to prepare students for jobs where many bosses expect to not be referred to by their first name. I know in a lot of smaller, younger businesses being on a first-name basis with everyone at the company is normal, but for larger companies I think bosses expect to be called Mr. or Mrs. or Sir or Ma'am or whatever. Inherently, I don't think calling teachers by their first name is bad at all, but if it becomes normal then kids might have trouble adapting to the respect required by job interviewers/company higher-ups.[/QUOTE] ok so i work at a grocery store right, granted not the highest class of all jobs but I can say for certain that everyone refers to everyone else by their first name. hell, its no different at the hospital that my mom works at.

[QUOTE=Kylel999;53110659]I had this CAD/Engineering teacher in highschool that had the first name Richard and we used to call him Dick all the time :v: "Hey dick could you come over here?"[/QUOTE] We had a teacher named Richard Nau (pronounced now) so we had at least one instance when the principal called for him over the intercom and said "Dick Nau come to the office, I need Duck Nau in the office". :v:

[QUOTE=bdd458;53111387]ok so i work at a grocery store right, granted not the highest class of all jobs but I can say for certain that everyone refers to everyone else by their first name. hell, its no different at the hospital that my mom works at.[/QUOTE] Like I said, first-name basis is normal for smaller and/or younger businesses. And certainly it's more common in some types of business than others. But places that expect nominal platitudes exist, and I think it'd be better for kids to air on the side of caution. Now, it's debatable whether it is the job of teachers to teach kids to treat people in a higher position than them at a potential job with respect, but I think it's worth noting that there might be some benefit to how we're doing things now.

Sometimes I think of what I'd call my old teachers if I saw them again. Like, I call my coworkers by their first names even though many are at least as old as my teachers were. I'm even Facebook friends with a former teacher from high school, but it still feels weird both thinking of calling him "John" or "Mr. Doe".

[QUOTE=Dumpus;53111422]Like I said, first-name basis is normal for smaller and/or younger businesses. And certainly it's more common in some types of business than others. But places that expect nominal platitudes exist, and I think it'd be better for kids to air on the side of caution. Now, it's debatable whether it is the job of teachers to teach kids to treat people in a higher position than them at a potential job with respect, but I think it's worth noting that there might be some benefit to how we're doing things now.[/QUOTE] neither the hospital my mother works at, or the grocery store I do, are "small" or "younger". like seriously, we need to be tearing down heiarchies not building them up. we're all people working at living life, and the sooner we realize that the sooner we can advance as a society. Being more familiar with the people you're working with is only a net benefit.

[QUOTE=Viper123_SWE;53109216]Sweden too. Probably applies to Norway and Finland as well.[/QUOTE] Only teacher I've called "teacher" and not the first name was our teacher in elementary schoold grades 1-3 (we had the same teacher for every single class) because she was a very old-school teacher who looked like she was ready to kill you if you DARED to ask for help. She made one of the kids cry during lunch because he was holding knife and fork wrong (knife in left, fork in right). After her, all the teachers were cool and first names were used at all times. And Finland by the way.

[QUOTE=Dumpus;53111422]Like I said, first-name basis is normal for smaller and/or younger businesses. And certainly it's more common in some types of business than others. But places that expect nominal platitudes exist, and I think it'd be better for kids to air on the side of caution. Now, it's debatable whether it is the job of teachers to teach kids to treat people in a higher position than them at a potential job with respect, but I think it's worth noting that there might be some benefit to how we're doing things now.[/QUOTE] You can lose a job for being too formal, hence not a "good cultural fit" and failing the interview. It's up to the students themselves to research a company's culture to figure out what's appropriate or not.

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;53114776]You can lose a job for being too formal, hence not a "good cultural fit" and failing the interview. It's up to the students themselves to research a company's culture to figure out what's appropriate or not.[/QUOTE] That shit's funny though, everyone's paranoid about not wanting to be 'that guy' that becomes the HR joke of the week at interviews because they either showed up in ultra formal mode or took things [I]too[/I] casual. Even nearly seven years in working environments, first at a game studio and then in an actual office where 'smart casuals' was a thing, it gets really confusing to get a bead on what to wear for an interview when keeping company culture in mind because all of them these days are about Ping Pong tables, basketball games, sunshine and awesomeness and bears, oh my! Usually to play it safe I just wear black jeans, a tucked in button down shirt that's not loud, roll up my sleeves and a pair of black leather shoes. The black jeans hold up muster at a distance so if it's a formal place I don't stick out too much, the shirt tucked in helps too. Casual and yet... not. Always worked, highly recommended.