Take-Two sent a C&D letter to the OpenIV team, therefore killing GTA 5 modding - Sensationalist Headlines

[QUOTE=EddieLTU;52393811][url]https://support.rockstargames.com/hc/en-us/articles/115009494848[/url] Here's the official statement[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Question: Are PC Single-Player Mods Allowed? Answer: Rockstar Games believes in reasonable fan creativity, and, in particular, wants creators to showcase their passion for our games. After discussions with Take-Two, Take-Two has agreed that it generally will not take legal action against third-party projects involving Rockstar’s PC games that are single-player, non-commercial, and respect the intellectual property (IP) rights of third parties. This does not apply to (i) multiplayer or online services; (ii) tools, files, libraries, or functions that could be used to impact multiplayer or online services, [B]or (iii) use or importation of other IP (including other Rockstar IP) in the project.[/B] This is not a license, and it does not constitute endorsement, approval, or authorization of any third-party project. Take-Two reserves the right to object to any third-party project, or to revise, revoke and/or withdraw this statement at any time in their own discretion. This statement does not constitute a waiver of any rights that Take-Two may have with respect to third-party projects.[/QUOTE] I mean, okay? But that third part is what everyone wanted, so they're still shitting all over their own fans and keeping OpenIV banned (unless it voluntarily cripples its ability to import new content, which was the POINT). God, never let R* or Take 2 see our modeling subforum, where copyright goes to die (unless you rip Arma content for non-Bohemia games).

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;52393831](unless you rip Arma content for non-Bohemia games).[/QUOTE] For a while, we were fine, until Dwarden showed up.

A turn of events for the better: [url]https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/ywz87k/rockstar-games-talks-publisher-into-leaving-grand-theft-auto-v-modders-alone[/url] [QUOTE]Now, however, GTA V's developer Rockstar Games seems to have moderated Take-Two's position, and has also told Motherboard that it is in contact with Krivoruchko with the intention of resolving the issue. [...] As Rockstar's statement says, Take-Two now intends to only go after mods that affect GTA Online, but at the moment it is still not clear how OpenIV can continue to allow users to modify the single player experience without facilitating cheating. Rockstar said it's in contact with Krivoruchko in order to figure that out, and judging by the statement, for now Take-Two will prioritize going after mods that ruin GTA Online.[/QUOTE] Keep your expectations in check, but its good to see that Rockstar wants this to be resolved too. [IMG]https://facepunch.com/fp/ratings/rainbow.png[/IMG]In the end R* might release an official tool, similar in functionality to the current OIV.[IMG]https://facepunch.com/fp/ratings/rainbow.png[/IMG] [QUOTE=elixwhitetail;52393831]I mean, okay? But that third part is what everyone wanted, so they're still shitting all over their own fans and keeping OpenIV banned (unless it voluntarily cripples its ability to import new content, which was the POINT).[/QUOTE] A tool can be shut down pretty easily, but going after the hundreds of people who port stuff from various places is waay harder (I don't see T2 spending time trying to prove that that specific vehicle is not original content but a Forza port). Pretty sure this point is mostly just there to stop people from porting Liberty City and the RDR map, or as a precautionary measure for when RDR2 comes out. [QUOTE=GhillieBacca;52394037]For a while, we were fine, until Dwarden showed up.[/QUOTE] pretty crazy to think how a community manager is actually gold member here [B]EDIT: I just got an update prompt on OpenIV and after updating it no longer asks for uninstalling at the start!!![/B]

Holy shit, a petition with actual results. Perhaps T2 and cuckstar got a little buttmad over this: [IMG]https://my.mixtape.moe/wjchsg.png[/IMG] Modding isn't going to hurt your shitty shark card sales, but a rating like that sure as fuck will. Modding keeps games alive, and keeps them relevant, even through piracy. A case in point: Stalker/fallout are probably some of the most pirated and modded games in existence, and are quite old. I saw the mods for these games, and ended up buying them both. The devs still made money from me, even through modding and piracy. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Cuck - Memeshit" - Kiwi))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=Amplar;52394598] cuckstar[/QUOTE] What are you, 12?

I guess they're not such cucks if they finally stood up to T2 and told them to fuck off with the C&D.

I think its a matter of not biting the hand which feeds you. Rockstar must of done some smooth talking to have it get to this stage. It ain't over till GooD-NTS gives his statement which should come out in the next few days.

It looks like OpenIV just got a update. [editline]24th June 2017[/editline] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/PyYzqwm.png[/IMG] We are back in business! Looking over everything, it looks like all that was changed was the warning box got removed and a thanks to R* in the about window.

Wow, I'm actually surprised all the negative reviews and online petitions worked. Well atleast modding isn't totally dead now :dance:

And here I thought Rockstar had no balls to stand up to T2.

Sucks about this though: [URL]http://gtaforums.com/topic/877438-openiv-team-presents-liberty-city-in-gta-v/page-1[/URL] Guess they got scared that a map conversion developed by a couple of guys in their spare time could compete with whatever they're up to. Pretty lame. [editline]24th June 2017[/editline] [QUOTE]use or importation of other IP (including other Rockstar IP) in the project[/QUOTE] This means no mods like this right?

[QUOTE=Uberpro;52396002]Sucks about this though: [URL]http://gtaforums.com/topic/877438-openiv-team-presents-liberty-city-in-gta-v/page-1[/URL] Guess they got scared that a map conversion developed by a couple of guys in their spare time could compete with whatever they're up to. Pretty lame. [editline]24th June 2017[/editline] This means no mods like this right?[/QUOTE] Basically, but they also can't dictate what mods are okay and which ones are not okay, independently of what they say making a tool that converts files from GTA IV to GTA V should be perfectly legal in most countries of the EU and in Russia, as long as the original files or derivatives of them are not distributed.

[QUOTE=Uberpro;52396002]Sucks about this though: [URL]http://gtaforums.com/topic/877438-openiv-team-presents-liberty-city-in-gta-v/page-1[/URL] Guess they got scared that a map conversion developed by a couple of guys in their spare time could compete with whatever they're up to. Pretty lame. [editline]24th June 2017[/editline] This means no mods like this right?[/QUOTE] It basically sounds like most mods aren't ok. Most vehicle, weapon, and character model mods are imported from other games and not modeled from scratch after all.