Take-Two sent a C&D letter to the OpenIV team, therefore killing GTA 5 modding - Sensationalist Headlines

Only reason I bought V on PC a few years back was for when the mods started coming out. 2516 clocked hours later and I can say for a fact not even 24 of them were from playing Online. This is such bullshit. Modded V singleplayer is one of the games I play in my library the most.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/XLhAHGu.png[/img] Some well deserved bad PR.

[video=youtube;PYApM6kWzqo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYApM6kWzqo[/video]

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;52362775]i get what you mean, but i can't pinpoint what IV has either. the driving was good (in its own way), the crashes were great, and the gunplay was solid, too. i guess you can chalk it up to good gameplay that doesn't rely on gimmicks, which is what shit like tennis, golf and stock trading felt like in V[/QUOTE] Let's not forget that the cops in GTA V are bullshit aimbots. They [I]will[/I] get a headshot on you after a few shots in either SP or GTAO. Damage reduction is also fucking whacked, making headshots incredibly powerful, even on players in GTAO. At least that's how they worked for a while after launch. The gameplay in V got all fucked up when they didn't have to do it. Combat feels dumbed down compared to IV. And Take Two apparently will never allow a Cops and Robbers gamemode no matter how much people demand it. They're too focused on shilling their Shark Cards, they don't care what their players actually want, they're going to give them tons of mostly-identical shit to grind for in GTAO. GTAV/O was the biggest gaming disappointment of 2015 for me, and that's a pretty high bar considering Evolve and Sid Meier's Starships! released around the same time.

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/QURlDga.png[/IMG] Oh dear

also the petition got over 10k signatures right now

Oh, I forgot another reason that made GTAV really fucking dumb. For about a year, birds and other animals could witness and report crimes to the cops. On their tiny smartphones, I guess. :v:

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;52363820]Oh, I forgot another reason that made GTAV really fucking dumb. For about a year, birds and other animals could witness and report crimes to the cops. On their tiny smartphones, I guess. :v:[/QUOTE] IIRC that was a bug in Skyrim too

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;52363820]Oh, I forgot another reason that made GTAV really fucking dumb. For about a year, birds and other animals could witness and report crimes to the cops. On their tiny smartphones, I guess. :v:[/QUOTE] Yeah and there's an OpenIV mod that fixes that. Not for long, though. Apparently they're changing the encryption method the game files use so OpenIV will be obsolete soon enough.

just sayin y'all folks, if y'all serious about punting Rockstar in the Rumper then i hope not to see y'all talking about how much you love RDR2, because Rockstar and their corporate sugar daddy Take2 have been getting away with this kind of corporate bullying and turfing out crappy pretentious products since like 2006.

[QUOTE=BulletofHell;52363885]Yeah and there's an OpenIV mod that fixes that. Not for long, though. Apparently they're changing the encryption method the game files use so OpenIV will be obsolete soon enough.[/QUOTE] Also Scripthook could get C&D'd too, which would mean we are [U]proper fucked[/U]. Either way, back up your GTA5.exe, GTAVLauncher.exe, update.rpf (steamapi.dll if exists) just in case.

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;52362929]i don't care for wacky vehicles and quirky guns. i care for fun, challenging gameplay, and IV has a lot more of that than V[/QUOTE] Seriously though, like 2-3 hours into GTA V I was hoping there was some kind of difficulty slider(I don't think there is one??) because of how easy it was. Meanwhile, GTA IV's bank heist mission is harder than most of GTA V combined

[QUOTE=Pissfuck;52363908]just sayin y'all folks, if y'all serious about punting Rockstar in the Rumper then i hope not to see y'all talking about how much you love RDR2, because Rockstar and their corporate sugar daddy Take2 have been getting away with this kind of corporate bullying and turfing out crappy pretentious products since like 2006.[/QUOTE] Rockstar has been positive about mods in the past, I have feeling this is all Take-Two's doing. They even did a FAQ about Single-Player modding in GTAV a year or two back.

[QUOTE=BulletofHell;52363885]Yeah and there's an OpenIV mod that fixes that.[/QUOTE] Rockstar did officially fix the problem after the mod was well-established. That particular mod's obsolete.

[QUOTE=TurtleeyFP;52361458]They've spent 10 years decrypting the files and finding special keys to unlock stuff. I think their documentation might've been taken down too. If they don't leak the sourcefiles themselves, I don't really know if there will ever be a replacement. This affects FiveM as well, afaik serverowners have to use OpenIV to manage their server's addons and create new mods. Without it, they might be stuck as-is and unable to update.[/QUOTE] Ten years? Hasn't GTA5 only been out for about four?

[QUOTE=matt000024;52364094]Ten years? Hasn't GTA5 only been out for about four?[/QUOTE] The tool started as a tool for GTA IV, hence the name "OpenIV". It's still the same engine for both IV and V so they worked on adding support to their current tool rather than make a new one

You know what else is kind of shitty, it's still on sale for a full priced $60. And remember, it came out on 360/PS3, then on the 1 and PS4 a year later, and then on the PC a year later. Each time a full $60 title It's a great game but at this point, the mods are what's keeping the majority of current interest, if not all of it in Single Player

Hey wow. No User Reviews.... Either it's a bug on my end, or they disabled reviews somehow??? [img]http://i.imgur.com/qqBmHmQ.png[/img] [b]edit:[/b] i guess its back now... Odd...

Its not a bug. Try searching gta on steam, or Grand Theft Auto

-snip, got the bug as well-

Ok no that one was actually a bug on my end :v: [editline]15th June 2017[/editline] Ok now the reviews are back? [editline]15th June 2017[/editline] This is very strange indeed. i think people are mass reviewing it and causing some errors on steam

[video]https://youtu.be/D2GtGZG4gR0[/video]

Reviews glitched out yesterday as well. Maybe the spam is breaking the review database

People adding bad reviews out of spite for stuff like this is incredibly childish

[QUOTE=Eric95;52364452]People adding bad reviews out of spite for stuff like this is incredibly childish[/QUOTE] Damn those people for getting upset at a game removing one of their favorite aspects of it. How selfish...

[QUOTE=Revenge282;52364456]Damn those people for getting upset at a game removing one of their favorite aspects of it. How selfish...[/QUOTE] What about some of the people shitting on every Take-Two game review on steam?

[QUOTE=Tuskin;52364464]What about some of the people shitting on every Take-Two game review on steam?[/QUOTE] Isn't it OK to leave a negative review because of a company's shitty, anti-consumer practices, regardless of the game's individual merit?

I'm seeing bad reviews on XCOM, Civ and KSP from people lashing out over this.

[QUOTE=Tuskin;52364464]What about some of the people shitting on every Take-Two game review on steam?[/QUOTE] I would say it isn't the most respectable thing to do. Having said that, neither has anything T2 has been doing as of late. That is how people choose to protest, so be it. The company makes a move that they clearly knew was going to harm the playerbase, and the playerbase is now taking action in response. It's not like this is some surprise brigade...

[QUOTE=Tuskin;52364476]I'm seeing bad reviews on XCOM, Civ and KSP from people lashing out over this.[/QUOTE] Would it be unfair to criticize a car company that put out a car which charges you for every 1 mph above 25 because the car is technically good except for the artificial limitations they put on it? "You can still get around at 25 mph, you don't [I]need[/I] to go 60 just to enjoy the car!!"