Steam UI refresh still happening, according to product designer Alden Kroll at Valve - Sensationalist Headlines

[QUOTE=redBadger;53037968]Every UI element is out dated. Not only that but every single feature from curators to the market to steam broadcast to big picture to it's mobile app to it's literally everything is outdated shit. For one I'm extremely tired of the Store and community being shared as if it was a single browser. I want the Store and community tabs to be completely separate.[/QUOTE] While I do agree with you, I've seen far too many recent UI updates from other companies that ended up being flashy yet counter intuitively designed. So I hope their main focus is ease of use yet intuitive design that isn't alien to those used to previous design while still "welcoming" new users, yet still fixes the usage shortcomings pretty much everyone agrees on, and then having snazzing it up as last priority.

[QUOTE=BAZ;53037756]I think it's actually a poor webkit implementation[/QUOTE] Yes, it used to be internet explorer when it first came out and it was almost unusable. I remember being psyched when they switched it because it was ten times faster by comparison, but that was back when I was still playing TF2 (2010) and afaik they haven't done anything with it since then.

[QUOTE=snookypookums;53037741]I'm actually filled with curiosity to find out if they'll ever release some sort of test-mode or level to show how the mechanics of that camera perspective game they had as a sequel to Portal 2 worked - I think it was called F-Stop or something. The way those VNN and other videos described it, it sounded really fascinating to me. [video=youtube;QvBmyw2wY44]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvBmyw2wY44[/video][/QUOTE] F-Stop was not a sequel to Portal 2, it was the project they were working on after Portal but they abandoned to make Portal 2 because they couldn't make F-Stop fun to play.

Also pls gib Steam Lite so I don't have all that extra community bullshit on top that I don't want nor care for.

New UI that make browsing through the store filled with assets fodder and clones faster? yesplz I don't care about anything else tbh, since 2016 wandering through their store take eternity to find anything.

It'll come out, and still not be nearly as good as the skins the community has made over the years. Calling it now anyway.

[QUOTE=Rahu X;53038311]It'll come out, and still not be nearly as good as the skins the community has made over the years. Calling it now anyway.[/QUOTE] Didn't they have some preview/leak that looked super fucking awesome either way it'd be weird if they couldn't make something somewhat better than community skins, given that they have more resources to mess with it than the community. They have an advantage.

[QUOTE=Rockeiro123;53037809]please re-design big picture so you don't need to go trough 2 or 3 different menus just to do something.[/QUOTE] Tbh having a new controller layout too would be nice

Why are companies so obsessed with circular avatars anyway? They look terrible and completely out of place, especially since content is usually shaped and aligned in a square or rectangular grid. Square avatars fit right in with that while circular ones stand out horribly.

thye have to make a 64 bit client since apple is apparently on a crusade to end all 32 Bit applications [url]https://9to5mac.com/2017/12/01/64-bit-mac-apps/[/url] [QUOTE]If you distribute your apps outside the Mac App Store, we highly recommend distributing 64-bit binaries to make sure your users can continue to run your apps on future versions of macOS. The last macOS release to support 32-bit apps without compromise is macOS High Sierra.[/QUOTE]

I hope they dont jump on the circular avatars meme

Maybe with the ui refresh they make the client not so much of a fucking resource hog and a slow piece of shit that acts like an anchor on my computer and Mac And it doesn't even support retina on the Mac. Everything is pixely and fucking Gross

[QUOTE=Hammer7;53038031]At least make Pixelvision as one of the vanilla skins.[/QUOTE] Metro for Steam or bust. I haven't used anything else in years, and every time I accidentally get the default skin, I get so confused where this random new skin came from.

[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;53038214]F-Stop was not a sequel to Portal 2, it was the project they were working on after Portal but they abandoned to make Portal 2 because they couldn't make F-Stop fun to play.[/QUOTE] It was actually a mechanic intended for Portal 2 but they cut it out in hope to ever put it again in a new possible game where it fits better. When news came out of it back then, it was expressed by someone at Valve that everybody that tried it out for themselves was incredibly impressed by the mechanic.

I can only hope that it is a large update pushing to completely overhaul the client, which is why it is taking so long.

[QUOTE=Hammer7;53038031]At least make Pixelvision as one of the vanilla skins.[/QUOTE] Pixelvision reminds me more of those awful Windows Media Player skins from the 90s than an actual modern UI. [editline]9th January 2018[/editline] [QUOTE=Kirbunny431;53038397]Why are companies so obsessed with circular avatars anyway? They look terrible and completely out of place, especially since content is usually shaped and aligned in a square or rectangular grid. Square avatars fit right in with that while circular ones stand out horribly.[/QUOTE] I feel like I'm the only person that thinks that circular avatars look fine.

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;53038476]Maybe with the ui refresh they make the client not so much of a fucking resource hog and a slow piece of shit that acts like an anchor on my computer and Mac And it doesn't even support retina on the Mac. Everything is pixely and fucking Gross[/QUOTE] It looks bad on high resolution displays in general. I can hardly bare to look at it on my Surface Book.

[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;53038680]Pixelvision reminds me more of those awful Windows Media Player skins from the 90s than an actual modern UI.[/QUOTE] 'least it isn't steamrolled flat with nonexistent defining borders or a skeuomorphism smorgasbord [QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;53038680] I feel like I'm the only person that thinks that circular avatars look fine.[/QUOTE] :sick:

[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;53038680] I feel like I'm the only person that thinks that circular avatars look fine.[/QUOTE] Heretical words there my friend

[QUOTE=DaBeaver;53037549]Give me an in-game browser that actually works please.[/QUOTE] I wish I could have ublock origin in the steam in-game browser.

[QUOTE=Kirbunny431;53038397]Why are companies so obsessed with circular avatars anyway? They look terrible and completely out of place, especially since content is usually shaped and aligned in a square or rectangular grid. Square avatars fit right in with that while circular ones stand out horribly.[/QUOTE] It's just design that can be appropriate or inappropriate to use. They're good in some contexts, since the negative space creates a strong focal point. As well, when paired with content it visually distinguishes users from content. Though the main problem is that they only look good with certain images, like faces and specifically-made logos/graphics. They're good for stuff like facebook at least. But I'd hate it on steam or facepunch (fuck twitter for this) since such a wide diversity of avatars are used on those websites due to them encouraging anonymity.

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;53038945](fuck twitter for this)[/QUOTE] Thankfully the Twitter client I use (Tweetbot) gives the option between square avatars and circular ones, the Twitter website just applies border-radius: 50% to the square image stored on the server

[QUOTE=Wii60;53038404]thye have to make a 64 bit client since apple is apparently on a crusade to end all 32 Bit applications [url]https://9to5mac.com/2017/12/01/64-bit-mac-apps/[/url][/QUOTE] Or, they could just make the macOS version 64 bit and keep 32 bit versions of the Windows and Linux clients around. Even with 64 bit adoption being in the majority these days for Windows, I'm sure there's still a decent chunk of people still using (or are stuck with) 32 bit that would be royally pissed off if they couldn't use Steam anymore. And upgrading from 32 bit to 64 bit isn't free on Windows, last I checked.

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;53038945]It's just design that can be appropriate or inappropriate to use. They're good in some contexts, since the negative space creates a strong focal point. As well, when paired with content it visually distinguishes users from content. Though the main problem is that they only look good with certain images, like faces and specifically-made logos/graphics. They're good for stuff like facebook at least. But I'd hate it on steam or facepunch (fuck twitter for this) since such a wide diversity of avatars are used on those websites due to them encouraging anonymity.[/QUOTE] The thing is if you want a circle avatar on a square avatar space you can just make the outside of your circle transparent. Enforcing circle avatars just makes 90% of the avatars look like shit.

[QUOTE=Rahu X;53040802]Or, they could just make the macOS version 64 bit and keep 32 bit versions of the Windows and Linux clients around. Even with 64 bit adoption being in the majority these days for Windows, I'm sure there's still a decent chunk of people still using (or are stuck with) 32 bit that would be royally pissed off if they couldn't use Steam anymore. And upgrading from 32 bit to 64 bit isn't free on Windows, last I checked.[/QUOTE] It is "free", it uses the same license. Only thing is, the only way to upgrade is a full reinstall. That said, they may just go this route since the last 32 bit x86 CPU's were the early Intel Atoms, and those are nearly 10 years old. And they weren't great for gaming even for the time. Any reasonably modern gaming PC worth its salt in the past 10 years is going to be 64 bit. They may keep the legacy client working for a while to allow people to transition but the writing is on the wall.

[QUOTE=Demache;53040993]It is "free", it uses the same license. Only thing is, the only way to upgrade is a full reinstall. That said, they may just go this route since the last 32 bit x86 CPU's were the early Intel Atoms, and those are nearly 10 years old. And they weren't great for gaming even for the time. Any reasonably modern gaming PC worth its salt in the past 10 years is going to be 64 bit. They may keep the legacy client working for a while to allow people to transition but the writing is on the wall.[/QUOTE] AFAIK it's the first Atoms using the 945G northbridge that were only 32 bit (and a few rare-as-a-unicorn UMPC variants), so even then any Atom under 8 years is almost bound to be 64 bit compatible.

[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;53040865]The thing is if you want a circle avatar on a square avatar space you can just make the outside of your circle transparent. Enforcing circle avatars just makes 90% of the avatars look like shit.[/QUOTE] The problem with that is the few jokers who go with circle avatars just look hilariously stupid from the inconsistency. this is a callout against a few fpers btw you guys know who you are.

[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;53040865]The thing is if you want a circle avatar on a square avatar space you can just make the outside of your circle transparent. Enforcing circle avatars just makes 90% of the avatars look like shit.[/QUOTE] Steam doesn't allow transparency.

[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;53038680]Pixelvision reminds me more of those awful Windows Media Player skins from the 90s[/QUOTE] This makes me want to use it even more :speedfap: [editline]10th January 2018[/editline] [QUOTE=Van-man;53038781]skeuomorphism smorgasbord[/QUOTE] :lick:

[QUOTE=geel9;53042390]Steam doesn't allow transparency.[/QUOTE] Jpeg is a great image format guys!