Cuckolding can be positive for some couples, study says
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[QUOTE=RedBaronFlyer;53085280]Doesn't this come in a similar form every time disciplining a child in an article gets brought up, was't it called survivor bias?[/QUOTE]Considering the amount of people basing their hatred of stuff off being hurt, I think it's fair.
[QUOTE=bdd458;53085285]are you actually trying to equate beating children with being in a consensual open relationship???[/QUOTE]
No, I was meaning the possible hypocrisy of going "well it didn't have any issues for me so it's fine"
[QUOTE=Bumbles;53085279]Wrong, I posted it because I wanted to shit on cucks, thats about the FULL extent of my caring, as in, shitting on cucks and open relationships on 1 internet forum in a few paragraphs, I hate this "OH YOU DO CARE XD" argument that has happened for so long on the internet.
Face it, I think cucks and open relationships are pathetic, sorry if that sounds really caring, it took me like 15 seconds to type this.[/QUOTE]
so you do care
[QUOTE=RedBaronFlyer;53085289]No, I was meaning the possible hypocrisy of going "well it didn't have any issues for me so it's fine"[/QUOTE]Did I ever say it was for everyone and everyone should try it?
If you can work in an open relationship, that's great. You can't, that's okay too! But be receptive to your partner and acknowledge how they feel. You don't have to act.
[QUOTE=Bumbles;53085299]Okay, fuck it, lets say I do, how does that change how I think being a cuck and open relationships are pathetic? I care, a lot, now what? Where do we go from here lol?[/QUOTE]
we don't
[QUOTE=RedBaronFlyer;53085289]No, I was meaning the possible hypocrisy of going "well it didn't have any issues for me so it's fine"[/QUOTE]
except one is being beaten, the other is being in a consensual relationship. there's no comparison of any "survivor's bias".
[QUOTE=Marbalo;53085291]I think you should stop with these off-handed one-sentence quips, dude. It adds absolutely nothing to the discussion.[/QUOTE]
why don't you elaborate on what values have supposedly been eroded?
[QUOTE=Bumbles;53085303]Then why the fuck have you been trying to argue some care % with me, what a waste of time, you are cucking time from me.[/QUOTE]
you're wasting your own time by trying to be an ass who thinks their words have weight on people on the internet
[QUOTE=Bumbles;53085248]Cuckholding is so fucking pathetic jesus christ. Like, I do NOT care what someones fetish is unless its actually hurting someone and not consensual(pedos for easiest example when they prey on real children/images/videos) so I dont care if someone is a cuck.
But I have more respect for people who eat literal shit than cucks. Cucks, and open relationships in general, are so fucking naive and stupid, once again, I dont care if you are into it, great, doesnt bother me, go for it, but I still can think you are pathetic, naive, and stupid.
Anyone who thinks cucking or open relationships work out in the end are so god damn stupid and only themselves and other cuckingjerks would agree, everyone else has a brain and realize the healthiest relationships dont have others involved. Dont be a cuck and expect long lasting relationships if you are the cuck. Their is a reason you are the cuck, because you are mediocre. There is a reason you are in an "open" relationship, you are mediocre.[/QUOTE]
I thought I was in an open relationship because it allows me both emotional and intimate fulfillment with someone I love while also granting both of us sexual freedom.
The next time I'm having sex with multiple women simultaneously I will be sure to reflect on how pathetic I am.
[QUOTE=Bumbles;53085307]clearly it does because you wont stop talking to me, whos the carer now carebear?[/QUOTE]
i care because you do
[QUOTE=bdd458;53085302]except one is being beaten, the other is being in a consensual relationship. there's no comparison of any "survivor's bias".[/QUOTE]
I am not comparing it to beating a child, I was saying that just because something worked or didn't have any issues that someone else does not magically make it work out. I feel like your intentionally trying to misinterpret my post in order to discredit it.
[QUOTE=RedBaronFlyer;53085310]I am not comparing it to beating a child, I was saying that just because something worked or didn't have any issues that someone else does not magically make it work out. I feel like your intentionally trying to misinterpret my post in order to discredit it.[/QUOTE]
you're actively trying to compare the psychological trauma caused by being beaten to someone who was in consensual relationships. Your analogy is shit. like no shit not everyone is going to be into polyamorous shit, but that doesn't really have much to do with the topic, rather it's more about how people are openly hostile to anyone who is poly "kinks show your mental state" "eroding western values"
[QUOTE=Bumbles;53085311]Well go care about someone else, be my care cuck please, for the love of god.[/QUOTE]
i have the mental capacity to care about more than one person at a time
you could call me a polycarer
Massive Cuckold here, I for one enjoy watching my boyfriend get pounded by others I know.
[QUOTE=Marbalo;53085318]Well if you took care to read my posts without having knee-jerk reactions to it you'd know that by values I meant the values of a healthy relationship i.e a monogonous one. The most widespread and commonly accepted relationship in our Western society, backed by actual professionals. Well, up until this article, at least, with which I disagree. And even then, those very same professionals only conceded that [I]some [/I]couples might benefit from it, which is kind of important.[/QUOTE]Homosexuality was also listed on the DMSV for many years.
I'm not knocking psychology, but suggesting and especially in regards to something as iffy as love, you can't put a firm 'This is exactly correct' label on it.
[QUOTE=Marbalo;53085318]Well if you took care to read my posts without having knee-jerk reactions to it you'd know that by values I meant the values of a healthy relationship i.e a monogonous one. The most widespread and commonly accepted relationship in our Western society, backed by actual professionals. Well, up until this article, at least, with which I disagree. And even then, those very same professionals only conceded that [I]some [/I]couples might benefit from it, which is kind of important.[/QUOTE]
If it's something that a really small minority of people even enjoy to begin with, then there's nothing to worry about to begin with as long as it's done responsibly.
[QUOTE=Marbalo;53085318]Well if you took care to read my posts without having knee-jerk reactions to it you'd know that by values I meant the values of a healthy relationship i.e a monogonous one. The most widespread and commonly accepted relationship in our Western society, backed by actual professionals. Well, up until this article, at least, with which I disagree. And even then, those very same professionals only conceded that [I]some [/I]couples might benefit from it, which is kind of important.[/QUOTE]
You're still not explaining what those values are.
On a side note this thread is genuinely quite upsetting to read through.
[QUOTE=Marbalo;53085333]Nobody is arguing this point. I'm not arguing that cuckold might ruin all relationships. I'm not worrying about anything. What I meant by errosion of values is the principle that it's an inherently unhealthy relationship for whoever indulges in it.[/QUOTE]
But the study that the article references clearly refutes your point since some couples do enjoy it.
[QUOTE=MadBomber;53085334]On a side note this thread is genuinely quite upsetting to read through.[/QUOTE]
Same.
And to think that this thread probably would have never existed if the far right didn't appropriate 'cuck' as an insult
[QUOTE=Marbalo;53085333]Nobody is arguing this point. I'm not arguing that cuckold might ruin all relationships. I'm not worrying about anything. What I meant by errosion of values is the principle that it's an inherently unhealthy relationship for whoever indulges in it.[/QUOTE]
do you feel like explaining why?
this thread is gold
I'm seeing the word pathetic thrown around a lot, and I'll be honest if the first page of this thread isn't one of the most pathetic things I've ever seen.
When did this forum get such a large population of whiny, puritanical busy-bodies?
[QUOTE=Marbalo;53085333]Nobody is arguing this point. I'm not arguing that cuckold might ruin all relationships. I'm not worrying about anything. What I meant by errosion of values is the principle that it's an inherently unhealthy relationship for whoever indulges in it.[/QUOTE]
That's alright, but I'm also going to ask the same thing this guy did...
[QUOTE=Headhumpy;53085329]You're still not explaining what those values are.[/QUOTE]
What values? Who's values?
[QUOTE=Marbalo;53085353]And I brought up an example for when 'enjoyment', in a particularly muddy territory as a relationship (and by extension, psychology itself), is not a good enough reason to do X or Y, because enjoyment can literally be derived from anything by anyone.[/QUOTE]
yes, it is possible for people to enjoy things that aren't healthy.
so please explain why this specific form of sexual roleplay is necessarily, inherently unhealthy
Hot take: your wife/husband is not someone you possess, being turned on by watching someone else fuck them doesn't make you a beta male or hurt a stable relationship (basically what other posters have been saying)
Also don't kinkshame unless there's children, animals, or lack of consent
[QUOTE=Bumbles;53085248][B]Anyone who thinks cucking or open relationships work out in the end are so god damn stupid and only themselves and other cuckingjerks would agree, everyone else has a brain and realize the healthiest relationships dont have others involved.[/B] Dont be a cuck and expect long lasting relationships if you are the cuck. Their is a reason you are the cuck, because you are mediocre. There is a reason you are in an "open" relationship, you are mediocre.[/QUOTE]
Hahahahaha holy shit. Get a load of this guy who thinks every person will have the same experiences and every person will have the same reactions to different things in a relationship
Anyone who thinks there are rules and restrictions to how ANY relationship works out in the end is a pretty misguided and naive individual. Anyone who has a brain has the ability to realize that every single person on this planet will have a different reaction to a given situation and will realize the healthiest relationships can't be measured by amount of people, but rather by the willingness of those individuals to communicate honestly and openly with each other.
"Don't be a cuck and expect long lasting relationships if you are the cuck"? What the fuck does this even mean? Do you even know anyone in an open relationship? Do you realize there are other configurations of open relationship outside of cuckoldry? You speak on this subject like a smart-ass but I bet you're rarely around people who are in non-monogamous relationships, and I doubt you've spoken to many, if that number is even more than 0.
I'm not into cuckoldry but my (female) partner and I are in an equal consensual relationship with another woman, and it's going great because we all -communicate-. We set our ground rules. We talk problems out.
You seem all too willing to just freely mix cucking and open relationships which is why I believe you're seriously poorly educated and have no right to speak on a subject you don't understand.
Cucking isn't the standard for open relationships. You're generalizing so hard
[QUOTE=MasterKade;53085365]or lack of consent[/QUOTE]
what if that's strictly in roleplay context though?
[QUOTE=NightmareX91;53085370]what if that's strictly in roleplay context though?[/QUOTE]
Well yeah, don't rape people for real.
Societal values are a hugely shifting thing. 30 years ago, gay marriage would have been unacceptable.
And this isn't even taking into account older societies where polygamy WAS very much a thing.
[QUOTE=MasterKade;53085377]Well yeah, don't rape people for real.[/QUOTE]
that's a given, i just wanted to clear it up, as strangely enough i give a huge shit about kinkshaming
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