Cuckolding can be positive for some couples, study says - Sensationalist Headlines

[QUOTE=Daddy-of-war;53083942]I'm sorry, but your fetishes say alot about you. And cuckolds just scream weak little men, to me atleast. All I can see is these weak willed dudes to scared to leave their chick so they let them fuck other dudes in order "be happy together". [/QUOTE] Or they just get off on watching their partner get railed in third person? I could see it easily stemming from porn addiction.

[QUOTE=LeonS;53086047]are you saying that 'secure' people allow and even want their SO's to get fucked by other men? lmao[/QUOTE] I don't know why you care, or anyone in this thread cares what people do in their bedrooms. They aren't going to invite you.

[QUOTE=U.S.S.R;53086330]I'm surprise nobody brought this up before, but Dan Savage is a pseudo-scientist pundit who believes [url=http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/03/magazine/infidelity-will-keep-us-together.html]infidelity[/url] (in the completely non-consensual sense) can aid a relationship, calls people who wait to lose their virginity [url=https://www.thestranger.com/seattle/SavageLove?oid=8255]abnormal deviants[/url], and tells others in his [I]relationship advice column[/I] to leave their partners so frequently that he's invented an acronym for it (Dump the Motherfucker Already). He's been making disingenuous studies like these for years, which is probably why the article is so misleading.[/QUOTE] [quote]And the emotions surrounding seeing your partner with someone else can add to the turn-on, explained Savage. "It's not cuckolding if there isn't an element of humiliation, degradation or denial," he said. [b]"Our erotic imaginations have the ability to turn shame lemons into delicious kink lemonade."[/b][/quote]

[QUOTE=LeonS;53086047]are you saying that 'secure' people allow and even want their SO's to get fucked by other men? lmao[/QUOTE] Actually yes. A lot of very sexually confident and secure in their lives and life choiches people even people I know who are friends of mine enjoy the fantasy of cucking or stories involving them And would even engage to it on a roleplay level IRL if their SO was okay with it. Embracing your fetishes as a non hated disgusting part of yourself shows more confidence than people who go "EWWW KINKY SHIT" will ever have in my book. And even in my case it has lead to better understanding myself and in general being more okay with myself by accepting my kinks. Cuckolding while not my kind of fetish is still in the end one of them and I respect people who like them. I mean in my friends case it actually helped his self confidence issues in the long run.

The moral depravity of the West knows no bounds.

I'm going to have to put the brakes on this thread for one moment. You can get back to bickering and taking the piss with each other in a sec, I just want to say that I really want you pathetic cucks to stop liking what I don't like. It's really upsetting to me. Simply knowing the fact that there's a pathetic guy letting his wife take a pounding from a 12 inch BBC within a 100 mile radius of me makes my stomach upset and I can't perform as well in bed with my own pure Christian wife. So if you guys can just compromise your sexual desires for my benefit, as well as the fact that I, personally, as the authority of all things sexually appropriate, find it to be pathetic, that would be absolutely fantastic. Thanks for reading!

Honestly if you want to be cucked then good for you. All I've become convinced of in this thread is that people are afraid of you if you're into this. Soon they will become like the anti-gay people, universally despised. Right now there's nothing more powerful or courageous than letting another man fuck your wife, and don't let anyone take that power away from you.

The thing I hate about threads like these is that despite this big debate, the popular opinion was already decided by zingers on the first page - nobody will challenge them or even rate them negatively.

[QUOTE=SAULSBASHWALL;53086703]Honestly if you want to be cucked then good for you. All I've become convinced of in this thread is that people are afraid of you if you're into this. Soon they will become like the anti-gay people, universally despised. Right now there's nothing more powerful or courageous than letting another man fuck your wife, and don't let anyone take that power away from you.[/QUOTE] Does being a bike cuck also grant this power? I'm asking for a friend.

[QUOTE=JugadorXEI;53086057]I can't tell if this is serious or not, but, yes? That's the point of the fetish in the first place. Even secure, healthy relationships between people who approve of it can partake on it. Obviously if not all parties are comfortable with it then it's not gonna happen, but yes, people who are secure enough to engage in their kinks might engage on them as long as there's communication and there's approval in general. I've got the impression that you haven't read the article and/or the full thread. I recommend you to do so since a lot of knowledge has been dropped which might be interesting to read.[/QUOTE] Lets be real, most people into cuckolding are anything but secure. It's usually a way of trying to deal with feelings of inadequacy by fetishising them, kind of like people with small dick humiliation fetishes, attempting to take control of their fears by embracing them on a subconscious level. Sure you'll have the occasional guy who's attractive who's still into cuckolding but I'd say that's pretty rare. Of course more often than not this just causes their partner to lose all respect for them and eventually leave them for someone else. The backlash is more towards people promoting this as if it's healthy when it really really isn't and is more likely to just destroy any relationship you have. There's also people who end up getting pushed into it by their partner who just wants an excuse to cheat, but usually that comes in the form of an "open relationship" rather than cuckolding.

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;53086854]Lets be real, most people into cuckolding are anything but secure. It's usually a way of trying to deal with feelings of inadequacy by fetishising them, kind of like people with small dick humiliation fetishes, attempting to take control of their fears by embracing them on a subconscious level. Sure you'll have the occasional guy who's attractive who's still into cuckolding but I'd say that's pretty rare. Of course more often than not this just causes their partner to lose all respect for them and eventually leave them for someone else. The backlash is more towards people promoting this as if it's healthy when it really really isn't and is more likely to just destroy any relationship you have. There's also people who end up getting pushed into it by their partner who just wants an excuse to cheat, but usually that comes in the form of an "open relationship" rather than cuckolding.[/QUOTE] This pretty much. Kinda hard to be confident when you're pushing this idea in your head that you're less of a man and that your wife prefers someone else. Not a good idea to be enabling people who think like this. If you think like this, you need help. This thread has literally devolved into "IT'S OKAY TO HAVE A FETISH THAT LITERALLY PUTS YOURSELF DOWN" What the actual fuck

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;53086854]Lets be real, most people into cuckolding are anything but secure. It's usually a way of trying to deal with feelings of inadequacy by fetishising them, kind of like people with small dick humiliation fetishes, attempting to take control of their fears by embracing them on a subconscious level. Sure you'll have the occasional guy who's attractive who's still into cuckolding but I'd say that's pretty rare. Of course more often than not this just causes their partner to lose all respect for them and eventually leave them for someone else. [/QUOTE] I agree with you in general, but [QUOTE]Of course more often than not this just causes their partner to lose all respect for them and eventually leave them for someone else.[/QUOTE] Sounds like a hot garbage piece of a 'relationship' if a fetish coming from insecurity is all it takes for a person to "lose all respect for them and eventually leave them".

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;53086854]Lets be real, most people into cuckolding are anything but secure. It's usually a way of trying to deal with feelings of inadequacy by fetishising them, kind of like people with small dick humiliation fetishes, attempting to take control of their fears by embracing them on a subconscious level. Sure you'll have the occasional guy who's attractive who's still into cuckolding but I'd say that's pretty rare. Of course more often than not this just causes their partner to lose all respect for them and eventually leave them for someone else. The backlash is more towards people promoting this as if it's healthy when it really really isn't and is more likely to just destroy any relationship you have. There's also people who end up getting pushed into it by their partner who just wants an excuse to cheat, but usually that comes in the form of an "open relationship" rather than cuckolding.[/QUOTE] The article, citing the study, says it should only be practiced by couples slowly and with thorough communication between both partners. I think too many people are reading "can be positive for some couples" and and thinking it's universal for some reason.

[QUOTE=Bertie;53086886]I agree with you in general, but Sounds like a hot garbage piece of a 'relationship' if a fetish coming from insecurity is all it takes for a person to "lose all respect for them and eventually leave them".[/QUOTE] No, it's not. Kinda hard to be attracted to someone who lets others step all over them. Hence why the term cuck is used outside of sexual related shit

[QUOTE=U.S.S.R;53086330]I'm surprise nobody brought this up before, but Dan Savage is a pseudo-scientist pundit who believes [url=http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/03/magazine/infidelity-will-keep-us-together.html]infidelity[/url] (in the completely non-consensual sense) can aid a relationship, calls people who wait to lose their virginity [url=https://www.thestranger.com/seattle/SavageLove?oid=8255]abnormal deviants[/url], and tells others in his [I]relationship advice column[/I] to leave their partners so frequently that he's invented an acronym for it (Dump the Motherfucker Already). He's been making disingenuous studies like these for years, which is probably why the article is so misleading.[/QUOTE] To provide context to this post, the other two people attached to the study (and presumably the ones who did most of the leg work but I'm not paying $40 to find out) have PhD's in psychology. [editline]27th January 2018[/editline] [QUOTE=Tudd;53086515] "Our erotic imaginations have the ability to turn shame lemons into delicious kink lemonade."[/QUOTE] Covers a lot of fetishes tbh.

[QUOTE=Episode;53086893]No, it's not. Kinda hard to be attracted to someone who lets others step all over them. Hence why the term cuck is used outside of sexual related shit[/QUOTE] Yes, it is. But maybe your standards of a close emotional relationship are extremely low if it doesn't tick you off. "Kinda hard to be attracted to someone who lets others step all over them" is some extreme presumptuousness. Since when do fetishes reflect a person's entire personality? Running on a load of simplistic assumptions at what are very complex emotions and human relationships shows how little thought you (a general 'you' to many people in this thread) put any thought into this.

[QUOTE=Bertie;53086911]Yes, it is. But maybe your standards of a close emotional relationship are extremely low if it doesn't tick you off. "Kinda hard to be attracted to someone who lets others step all over them" is some extreme presumptuousness. Since when do fetishes reflect a person's entire personality? Running on a load of simplistic assumptions at what are very complex emotions and human relationships shows how little thought you (a general 'you' to many people in this thread) put any thought into this.[/QUOTE] Problem is, the fetish requires you to BELIEVE these sorts of things to partake in it. If you start believing these things just to partake in it, then it's going to start affecting you negatively. Hence why telling yourself you're not good enough only brings you down

[QUOTE=Raidyr;53086889]The article, citing the study, says it should only be practiced by couples slowly and with thorough communication between both partners. I think too many people are reading "can be positive for some couples" and and thinking it's universal for some reason.[/QUOTE] And as someone already pointed out in this thread, the study was made by a known hack. I wouldn't trust any of it.

[QUOTE=Episode;53086893]No, it's not. Kinda hard to be attracted to someone who lets others step all over them. Hence why the term cuck is used outside of sexual related shit[/QUOTE] Boy sure sounds like you've got a PhD in psycology and aren't just spouting shite about an admittedly weird fetish. The whole point of the fetish is reliant on mutual trust. Everyone involved has agreed to it, and there should be an understanding that it can be stopped at any time. As with any fetish focused around humiliation the one being humiliated usually has absolute final say in matters. Otherwise it becomes incredibly dangerous to the relationship and just unhealthy in general. The "cuck" isn't neccesarily being "stepped all over", if things are done right at least. Don't get me wrong, it still seems pretty weird, but if you and your partner have a somewhat odd sexual relationship dynamic then it's probably not too out there.

[QUOTE=Bertie;53086886]I agree with you in general, but Sounds like a hot garbage piece of a 'relationship' if a fetish coming from insecurity is all it takes for a person to "lose all respect for them and eventually leave them".[/QUOTE] A lot of people, particularly women, don't like insecurity. Even more so if it pervades there life to the point of becoming a major fetish for them, it can be extremely off putting.

[QUOTE=Episode;53086914]Problem is, the fetish requires you to BELIEVE these sorts of things to partake in it. If you start believing these things just to partake in it, then it's going to start affecting you negatively. Hence why telling yourself you're not good enough only brings you down[/QUOTE] What are you actually talking about? It's a fetish, it isn't something that controls the persons life or that they should build themselves around. It's a weird sex thing they like to do from time to time as part of an otherwise healthy sexual relationship. If they are letting a fetish define them enough that they genuinely feel like they could never please their partner then that's a whole different problem. Christ have some of you only just discovered what a fetish is?

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;53086920]And as someone already pointed out in this thread, the study was made by a known hack. I wouldn't trust any of it.[/QUOTE] Putting aside the fact that you are wrong, are you saying that there is absolutely zero chance of a couple not only remaining together but flourishing by engaging in a cuckold kink?

[QUOTE=Raidyr;53086935]Putting aside the fact that you are wrong, are you saying that there is absolutely zero chance of a couple not only remaining together but flourishing by engaging in a cuckold kink?[/QUOTE] I'm sure you can find outliers but I'd say in general no, it won't. I don't really see how a fetish about hammering home the idea that your partner is shit could possibly make a relationship flourish. What's more likely to happen if she'll just leave them for the better man. I mean why wouldn't you? The entire fetish is that your partner is crap so you should fuck other men, so why not just go with the better men.

[QUOTE=Episode;53086914]Problem is, the fetish requires you to BELIEVE these sorts of things to partake in it. If you start believing these things just to partake in it, then it's going to start affecting you negatively. Hence why telling yourself you're not good enough only brings you down[/QUOTE] The cuckolding fetish is a fetish wherein your partner gets banged by other people, and you extract some sort of enjoyment from it for whatever your own reasons are. The whole feelings of inferiority and humiliation aspect is just one way to experience this sort of fetish. It's not necessarily coming from a place of inadequacy, same as bondage is not necessarily coming from a place of humiliating a person by tying them up. The humiliation is just one more way to experience it. At least, that's how I tend to view it. I think what you're describing is only a specific expression of cuckoldery.

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;53086938][B]I'm sure you can find outliers[/B] but I'd say in general no, it won't. I don't really see how a fetish about hammering home the idea that your partner is shit could possibly make a relationship flourish. What's more likely to happen if she'll just leave them for the better man. I mean why wouldn't you? The entire fetish is that your partner is crap so you should fuck other men, so why not just go with the better men.[/QUOTE] That's literally all the study and article are saying. That there are some outliers. And that if you want to engage in this with your significant other you should be careful and communicative about it.

[QUOTE=Raidyr;53086945]That's literally all the study and article are saying. That there are some outliers. And that if you want to engage in this with your significant other you should be careful and communicative about it.[/QUOTE] But that's not what it's saying, it's trying to say it's the majority.

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;53086952]But that's not what it's saying, it's trying to say it's the majority.[/QUOTE] From the abstract [QUOTE] Finally, this study also suggests that gay men who act on their cuckolding fantasies tend to report positive experiences; however, the likelihood of reporting positive outcomes appears to depend upon one’s personality and attachment style.[/QUOTE] Neither of us seem to be interested in actually reading the study itself but tbh I find it sort of hypocritical to completely disregard its findings because one of the three people attached to it doesn't have the credentials you'd like then go on to make entirely unproven claims yourself. If you have more research into how relationships are affected by engaging in a cuckolding fetish please share.

I could not be in a relationship where someone has so little respect for themselves that they can trick themselves into thinking they are okay with their partner having sex with someone else. At that point its just utterly sad and pathetic.

I want to stop reading this thread but I can't, it's like a train crash in slow motion. Edit: would this make it thread cucking?

[QUOTE=Raidyr;53086960]From the abstract Neither of us seem to be interested in actually reading the study itself but tbh I find it sort of hypocritical to completely disregard its findings because one of the three people attached to it doesn't have the credentials you'd like then go on to make entirely unproven claims yourself.[/QUOTE] I'd say that sounds more like it's trying to say it's the majority. Saying that the study was also written by a pseudoscientist so that's no surprise.