Cuckolding can be positive for some couples, study says - Sensationalist Headlines

[QUOTE=phygon;53087370]Who said that these people actually suffer from the inadequacies that their fetishes entail?[/QUOTE] I'm no Sigmund Freud but it doesn't feel like getting off to being considered incapable and inadequate comes without other, deeper-seated, not-exactly-healthy issues. [QUOTE]I'm pretty sure that people who are into the whole "sexy nurse" thing aren't actually sick.[/QUOTE] I'm not sure what your point is, I mean, one goes to the hospital to get better, not to stay sick forever. You'd be fetishizing [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjlSiASsUIs]the cure[/url], not the ailment. [editline]28th January 2018[/editline] [QUOTE=bdd458;53087385]I’m going to let you in on a secret: they don’t actually have issues with self-loathing.[/QUOTE] If I had a drink for every time things like "Oh you're so much better than my worthless husband" get said in cuckold porn, I'd have liver cancer. And well if [I]that[/I] is what they're fetishizing, call me ignorant or close-minded or whatever you feel like, it sure sounds like the enthusiasts have some emotional baggage.

[QUOTE=jimhowl33t;53087393]I'm no Sigmund Freud but it doesn't feel like getting off to being considered incapable and inadequate comes without other, deeper-seated, not-exactly-healthy issues. I'm not sure what your point is, I mean, one goes to the hospital to get better, not to stay sick forever. You'd be fetishizing [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjlSiASsUIs]the cure[/url], not the ailment. [editline]28th January 2018[/editline] If I had a drink for every time things like "Oh you're so much better than my worthless husband" get said in cuckold porn, I'd have liver cancer. And well if [I]that[/I] is what they're fetishizing, call me ignorant or close-minded or whatever you feel like, it sure sounds like the enthusiasts have some emotional baggage.[/QUOTE] Don't watch porn for accurate examples of how sex goes down in real life.

[QUOTE=jimhowl33t;53087177]What? That doesn't even makes sense, how did you make the jump from "he's talking shit about a very specific, extremely demeaning fetish" to [I]that?[/I][/QUOTE] i think it's because the implication is that technically, anybody could find offense to something two people share an interest in, especially a sexual fetish. I know people who are disgusted by the idea of someone having a foot fetish, but those some people are themselves into stuff like rape and murder play. It's all a sliding scale of how willing you are to not care about what people do in the bedroom, once again, as [B]consensual[/B] adults who have spoken about the subject at hand and agreed to terms and rules. Cuckoldry, the act, != cuckoldry, the fetish if two people who are in a relationship mutually enjoy sleeping with another man while the primary partner is not included and all 3 parties are respectful of each other's boundaries, then that is cuckolding performed as a fetish, and I don't see what's wrong with that. If a woman is just fucking men errantly with no care or respect to how their partner feels, that's not only cheating, but also the negative side of cuckoldry. Every fetish has a positive and negative side to it, and the same could really be said about anything, not just fetishes.

[QUOTE=jimhowl33t;53087393]I'm no Sigmund Freud but it doesn't feel like getting off to being considered incapable and inadequate comes without other, deeper-seated, not-exactly-healthy issues. If I had a drink for every time things like "Oh you're so much better than my worthless husband" get said in cuckold porn, I'd have liver cancer. And well if [I]that[/I] is what they're fetishizing, call me ignorant or close-minded or whatever you feel like, it sure sounds like the enthusiasts have some emotional baggage.[/QUOTE] Not all people who engage in cuckold fetish DO get off to that, though. That's just one part of the non-monogamous spectrum. There are people who aren't into being demeaned and humiliated, and they just enjoy watching their partner get fucked by another. There are so many layers, and saying that having "deeper-seated, not exactly healthy issues" is a judgement you would have to make based on the specifics of each relationship, and you can't blanket that because no two pairs of people will have the same experiences.

[QUOTE=jimhowl33t;53087393]I'm no Sigmund Freud but it doesn't feel like getting off to being considered incapable and inadequate comes without other, deeper-seated, not-exactly-healthy issues. I'm not sure what your point is, I mean, one goes to the hospital to get better, not to stay sick forever. You'd be fetishizing [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjlSiASsUIs]the cure[/url], not the ailment.[/QUOTE] That's right, you're not a psychologist, so your idle speculation about the subtleties of other hypothetical people's psyches and relationships kind of holds no weight at all? There's a massive variety of different people out there with different psychological issues and different relationship situations so your broad "if you get off to this particular consensual but weird thing it must necessarily be unhealthy" seems ridiculous. I'm sure there are unhealthy, abusive cuckoldry relationships, I'm sure it can break up a couple, but to say that that must necessarily be the case based on your massive assumptions about every single person with this fetish is pretty baseless.

[QUOTE=squids_eye;53087409]Don't watch porn for accurate examples of how sex goes down in real life.[/QUOTE] Of course not, it was more like gauging what its enthusiasts view as ideal.

[QUOTE=jimhowl33t;53087393] it sure sounds like the enthusiasts have some emotional baggage.[/QUOTE] do you actually believe that what is said during what is a roleplaying situation between 3 adults is proof of emotional baggage? especially in porn? it's all fake. it's like saying because i enjoying playing the assassin's creed games i actually enjoy stabbing people. it's fake. it's not real. i honestly don't know how much clearer I can make this. [QUOTE=jimhowl33t;53087393]If I had a drink for every time things like "Oh you're so much better than my worthless husband" get said in cuckold porn, I'd have liver cancer.[/quote] So you watch a lot of cuckold porn and are turned on by it (why else would you watch enough to give yourself liver cancer?).

[QUOTE=jimhowl33t;53087393]If I had a drink for every time things like "Oh you're so much better than my worthless husband" get said in cuckold porn, I'd have liver cancer. And well if [I]that[/I] is what they're fetishizing, call me ignorant or close-minded or whatever you feel like, it sure sounds like the enthusiasts have some emotional baggage.[/QUOTE] A. The same argument you're making here would apply just the same to most vanilla porn. If porn were a reasonable gauge of the role of sex in a relationship you could make a strong argument for why sex is universally unhealthy. B. For somebody who considers cuckold fetishes so completely unhealthy and offensive I'm surprised by the apparently vast amount of cuckold porn you're watching

[QUOTE=Mort Stroodle;53087418]your broad "if you get off to this particular consensual but weird thing it must necessarily be unhealthy" seems ridiculous. I'm sure there are unhealthy, abusive cuckoldry relationships, I'm sure it can break up a couple, but to say that that must necessarily be the case based on your massive assumptions about every single person with this fetish is pretty baseless.[/QUOTE] Please re-read my [url=https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1592183&p=53087366&viewfull=1#post53087366]previous post,[/url] where I did mention those healthier relationships and THEN specifically addressed the unhealthy ones as something that can royally fuck up one's life.

[QUOTE=gufu;53087368]This thread's reaction reminds me of back when FP used to have porn threads and how much of a negative reaction anyone bringing up NTR has brought out.[/QUOTE] NTR was the precursor for cuckoldry

[QUOTE=jimhowl33t;53087441]Please re-read my [url=https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1592183&p=53087366&viewfull=1#post53087366]previous post,[/url] where I did mention those healthier relationships and THEN specifically addressed the unhealthy ones as something that can royally fuck up one's life.[/QUOTE] I'm not entirely sure what your post was saying, [QUOTE]Opinions opinions. Personally I don't think surrendering yourself to your shortcomings or even fetishizing them is that healthy of a mindset and will result in a happy life. Like, I get spicing things up with extra partners every now and then, but the other kind? The one where people go "I'm not good in bed, I guess I'll just watch from the sidelines. This is my life now", that's what I find kinda disturbing.[/QUOTE] Are you saying that "a threesome is okay, but a cuckold fetish where one partner is not directly taking part is necessarily unhealthy", or "cuckoldry as a roleplaying sex act can potentially be healthy, but there is also the potential for an unhealthy relationship"? The former sentiment doesn't change the argument at all, and it's what I assumed you were saying. The latter sentiment is where I stand. Was my assumption wrong?

[QUOTE=bdd458;53087434]So you watch a lot of cuckold porn and are turned on by it (why else would you watch enough to give yourself liver cancer?).[/QUOTE] Nah, it just seemed like a recurring theme in all the ones I inevitably stumbled upon cause that stuff is everywhere these days. I've whacked it to anything from light bondage to eldritch horrors from outer space, and I can honestly say cuckoldry fails to do the job for me. I've done research you see, I have credentials. [editline]28th January 2018[/editline] [QUOTE=Mort Stroodle;53087460]I'm not entirely sure what your post was saying,[/QUOTE] Yeah I kinda worded it badly. I was talking more like swinging or just occasionally indulging in NTR type stuff, and my main issue was with people utterly resigning themselves to a spectator role forever.

[QUOTE=jimhowl33t;53087468]people utterly resigning themselves to a spectator role forever.[/QUOTE] people tend to have more than one fetish and don't just do the same thing over and over and over again.

[QUOTE=bdd458;53087479]people tend to have more than one fetish and don't just do the same thing over and over and over again.[/QUOTE] So you're saying there's absolutely no cases of people turning this into an actual lifestyle, usually leading to the whole thing spiraling down to more depressing scenarios?

[QUOTE=gufu;53087390]Netorare - Cheating Hentai.[/QUOTE] Specifically, cheating hentai where the one being cheated on is aware of the cheating and possibly being forced to watch against their will. It's basically what people imagine cuckolding to be like in real life, the loser guy who can't satisfy his girlfriend crying in the corner with a depression boner while a big strong guy with a footlong and wide cock impregnates the girl.

[QUOTE=jimhowl33t;53087501]So you're saying there's absolutely no cases of people turning this into an actual lifestyle, usually leading to the whole thing spiraling down to more depressing scenarios?[/QUOTE] Any fetish can be turned into a lifestyle, and can thus cause major problems. If it's not a lifestyle, but rather an occasionally done thing, is it really that harmful?

[QUOTE=jimhowl33t;53087501]So you're saying there's absolutely no cases of people turning this into an actual lifestyle, usually leading to the whole thing spiraling down to more depressing scenarios?[/QUOTE] Fuckin' A* goalpost migration there dude holy shit. You've managed to royally fuck this "argument" up by making it a no-win for you opposition with this shitty condition. So what if there are instances of people who are in to cuckoldry spiraling out of control with it and suffering some kind of breakdown? That has little to do with the fetish itself and more to do with that person already being in a bad place in the first place. This is not a good argument against the fetish, "ohhh but what if even one person goes bad huh???!?" is an entirely dishonest argument. Every fetish has a possibility of being rooted in some deeper neuroses, that doesn't mean every person who has a fetish will go off the deep end because of it.

[QUOTE=SAULSBASHWALL;53086703]Honestly if you want to be cucked then good for you. All I've become convinced of in this thread is that people are afraid of you if you're into this. Soon they will become like the anti-gay people, universally despised. Right now there's nothing more powerful or courageous than letting another man fuck your wife, and don't let anyone take that power away from you.[/QUOTE] I didn't think people like you were real. This is amazing.

[QUOTE=Bordellimies;53087528]Any fetish can be turned into a lifestyle, and can thus cause major problems. If it's not a lifestyle, but rather an occasionally done thing, is it really that harmful?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=hexpunK;53087545]Every fetish has a possibility of being rooted in some deeper neuroses, that doesn't mean every person who has a fetish will go off the deep end because of it.[/QUOTE] I'm saying that a fetish specifically rooted in insecurity, inadequacy, infidelity and emotional pain, probably has a higher chance to stem from (and possibly worsen) a whole bag of issues. Saying it is "just a fetish" is pointless considering the sheer amount of fetishes out there. It's like trying to equate someone who likes to be called Captain Kink by a body-painted partner, with someone into diapers or whatnot. You can't honestly say liking green tiddy bitches has the same roots as enjoying waddling around in your own shit.

[QUOTE=jimhowl33t;53087599]I'm saying that a fetish specifically [B]rooted in insecurity, inadequacy, infidelity and emotional pain,[/B] probably has a higher chance to stem from (and possibly worsen) a whole bag of issues.[/QUOTE] Or you know, maybe someone just enjoys watching other people have sex while not partaking. It doesn't need to have anything to do with insecurity or emotional pain.

[QUOTE=Bordellimies;53087606]Or you know, maybe someone just enjoys watching other people have sex while not partaking. It doesn't need to have anything to do with insecurity or emotional pain.[/QUOTE] the entire premise of pornography

[QUOTE=Bordellimies;53087606]Or you know, maybe someone just enjoys watching other people have sex while not partaking. It doesn't need to have anything to do with insecurity or emotional pain.[/QUOTE] I could very much be wrong, and have a skewed perception due to the most popular material being like that but from what I've seen, the people usually drawn towards cuckolding do tend to have feelings of inadequacy, and seemingly revel in the idea of their partners being (sexually speaking) better off without them. Eh, I guess this is the part where I just agree to disagree and clock out, 'cause this is one thing I can't wrap my head around and just makes me go "yo why the fuck would you do that" no matter how much people try to explain or justify it.

We don't need this cuckold thing normalized or accepted.. I don't want to be half-way through banging some broad when I hear a sneeze from the closet and I find some pathetic cuck getting off without my consent!

[QUOTE=ghosevil;53087672]We don't need this cuckold thing normalized or accepted.. I don't want to be half-way through banging some broad when I hear a sneeze from the closet and I find some pathetic cuck getting off without my consent![/QUOTE] This happens to me every week it's really getting to be a problem

[QUOTE=ghosevil;53087672]We don't need this cuckold thing normalized or accepted.. I don't want to be half-way through banging some broad when I hear a sneeze from the closet and I find some pathetic cuck getting off without my consent![/QUOTE] god I hate it when that happens

[QUOTE=ghosevil;53087672]We don't need this cuckold thing normalized or accepted.. I don't want to be half-way through banging some broad when I hear a sneeze from the closet and I find some pathetic cuck getting off without my consent![/QUOTE] This is why you set your lobby settings to invite-only

[QUOTE=Mort Stroodle;53087680]This happens to me every week it's really getting to be a problem[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=AtomicSans;53087682]god I hate it when that happens[/QUOTE] Have you tried Vicks?

Everyone is entitled to their own likes. This includes what they do in their bedroom in their spare time. Remember folks: [video=youtube;0la5DBtOVNI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0la5DBtOVNI[/video]

I'm okay with people liking cuckoldry (because it literally does not affect me at all), but I'd probably feel extremely insecure if a partner broached the subject at all.

I like to think the reason cuckold porn is more popular nowadays is because people viewing the porn fantasize themselves as the bull rather than the cuckold. Ultimate power fantasy to cuckold someone I guess. I can't get off to that cause I'd feel bad for the cuck. A bigger concern for me is why there's so much incest porn. Its slapped onto any random video title that could have been vanilla but they gotta spice it up by having step siblings or step parents or cousins or whatever. It's weird and it ruins some movies when they throw that shit in.