• Cuckolding can be positive for some couples, study says
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[QUOTE=Loriborn;53084154]lol half of the avatars on facepunch are hentai traps, cropped fury and loli porn, not to mention we had the weirdest boner thread forever and that was full (unironically) of shit from vore to inflation to latex bdsm, and people get awfully worked up and super serious about cuck fetish for some reason, as if that affects a relationship more seriously than some girl having a bf that jerks off to 13 year old anime girls or dogs[/QUOTE] I mean, I somewhat understand the angle. I'm not aware of any other fetish that relies on you holding something valuable, viewing it as essential to your relationship... and then violating that thing. Jerking off to 13 year old anime girls or dogs doesn't really have the same real-world implications. I'm not saying that it's bad or wrong or anything, but I do understand why some people might view it as worse than other fetishes.
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;53084152]they're both shit and degenerate[/QUOTE] Out of curiosity, what do you think about swingers? [editline]26th January 2018[/editline] [QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;53084170]no ones making articles suggesting a relationship built on or improved by domestic beatings, either[/QUOTE] This is the part where you explain what parts of the study are wrong.
Just want to point out this is the second most popular thread on FP right now, second to LMAO pics. Rolly makes you thonk.
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;53084170]no ones making articles suggesting a relationship built on or improved by domestic beatings, either[/QUOTE] there's a difference between consensual indulgences into fantasies, and actually malicious, harmful abuse
[QUOTE=myon;53084164][I]Sure buddy whatever you say[/I][/QUOTE] You know that's confirmation bias right there, whether or not I was being sarcastic doesn't matter because to you I wasn't. The equivalence of 'pretending to be retarded', just like the original poster dragged in a what is basically a life style choice at this point that encompasses a large number of people. But that doesn't matter, it started out as a fetish, so clearly we should make the same insultive argument that posters were making about cuckholdry.
[QUOTE=phygon;53084167]let's analyze the fact that many of us here spend a sizeable chunk out of most days alone on the internet.[/QUOTE] They probably spend the same alone time as cucks do since their wife is with her lover and their son [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Shitposting" - Novangel))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;53084170]no ones making articles suggesting a relationship built on or improved by domestic beatings, either[/QUOTE] Cucking =/= Gaslighting Mindbreak is a fetish of its own, cuckolding (as far as I know) is just about seeing your partner get fucked by someone else. S/M isn't domestic beating, either. It's a fucking fetish, not harming someone against their will. [editline]26th January 2018[/editline] [QUOTE=Gwoodman;53084184]They probably spend the same alone time as cucks do since their wife is with her lover and their son[/QUOTE] You're just shitposting now
[QUOTE=Bordellimies;53084186]You're just shitposting now[/QUOTE] No, that's what cuckolding is...
Eh. People can do what they want but me personally think it's pathetic. Just feels like people in denial when they're like "Well watching my girlfriend feel good makes me feel good" hey you can do that with your penis too my man
did anyone notice that the study the article cites actually specifies gay men couples exclusively for some reason [url]https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-017-1096-0[/url] [QUOTE=Raidyr;53084173] This is the part where you explain what parts of the study are wrong.[/QUOTE] I said article, not study the article takes the study out of its context entirely
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;53084184]They probably spend the same alone time as cucks do since their wife is with her lover and their son[/QUOTE] Okay, cool. Baseless assumption and you also failed to address my point. You don't like it because you don't like it. [QUOTE=ZombieDawgs;53084175]Just want to point out this is the second most popular thread on FP right now, second the LMAO pics. Rolly makes you thonk.[/QUOTE] Not sure what there is to thonk about it
[QUOTE=Bordellimies;53084186]Cucking =/= Gaslighting Mindbreak is a fetish of its own, cuckolding (as far as I know) is just about seeing your partner get fucked by someone else. S/M isn't domestic beating, either. It's a fucking fetish, not harming someone against their will.[/QUOTE] I'm not even the guy who made that claim
[QUOTE=phygon;53084200]Okay, cool. Baseless assumption[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]A cuckold is the husband of an adulterous wife. In evolutionary biology, the term is also applied to males who are unwittingly investing parental effort in offspring that are not genetically their own. [/QUOTE] It's the definition of a cuck, what baseless assumption?
[QUOTE=SunsetTable;53084183]You know that's confirmation bias right there, whether or not I was being sarcastic doesn't matter because to you I wasn't.[/QUOTE] nothing in your post implied sarcasm though, and as a result it came off as backpedalling I hope you realize and remember for the future that what you think and what you type don't go hand in hand [QUOTE=SunsetTable;53084183]it started out as a fetish, so clearly we should make the same insultive argument that posters were making about cuckholdry.[/QUOTE] the point made is that there are groups of people in this forum can't really go and judge others for their kinks and fetishes when they themselves have some pretty far out stuff some even go as far as to air out in the open those without sin yadda yadda
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;53084205]It's the definition of a cuck, what baseless assumption?[/QUOTE] Literally no part of that quote implies what you claimed dude.
Reading posts in this thread is a fun game of "spot the prude" [QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;53084199]did anyone notice that the study the article cites actually specifies gay men couples exclusively for some reason [url]https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-017-1096-0[/url][/QUOTE] "for some reason" did you, y'know, read the abstract?
[QUOTE=RedDagger;53084217]Reading posts in this thread is a fun game of "spot the prude" "for some reason" did you, y'know, read the abstract?[/QUOTE] for some reason, as in the article doesn't specify that part in its title but sources it to a study that does it even uses 2 men with a woman in the picture
[QUOTE=myon;53084207]nothing in your post implied sarcasm though, and as a result it came off as backpedalling I hope you realize and remember for the future that what you think and what you type don't go hand in hand the point made is that there are groups of people in this forum can't really go and judge others for their kinks and fetishes when they themselves have some pretty far out stuff some even go as far as to air out in the open those without sin yadda yadda[/QUOTE] Furries are the worst target because its broad of a mark. The trap, loli bullshit was a better point. Even if still self defeating.
if all parties consent to the cuckolding then i don't think there's any problems with it but i feel like it is one of those fetishes where if you have even a shred of doubt about it then you really shouldn't participate. i could see it being quite damaging to a relationship if that is the case.
[QUOTE=SunsetTable;53084222]Furries are the worst target because its broad of a mark. The trap, loli bullshit was a better point. Even if still self defeating.[/QUOTE] Defensive much?
[QUOTE=phygon;53084101]Are you actually in control in this situation, though? I feel like this would lead to long-term feelings of inadequacy and resentment if you held that sex was a sacred act and then also had your partner fuck other people.[/QUOTE] I'm not familiar with the specifics of cuckold relationships, but when it comes to open marriage I know that providing for the emotional needs of the primary partner is extremely important, so that those feelings of inadequacy and resentment don't develop and they do feel in control. Aftercare, openness, trust, and consent are all extremely important in delineating a healthy fetish from an unhealthy, abusive relationship. I mean, I don't think a cuckold is okay with just randomly walking in on their spouse cheating on them, any more than someone who enjoys S&M is okay with being a victim of domestic violence. It doesn't matter if the physical act is the same, or that the fetish itself involves a loss of control in the act, it's the loss of control over the entire scenario and trust in their partner that matters. In a mutually consensual, non-exclusive relationship like cuckoldry or open marriage, it's expected that both partners are respecting each other's wishes, and both partners have veto power over the other's choice of partner. If one partner just decides on their own that they want to fuck other people, and the other partner just accepts it while feeling hurt, that's not a cuckoldry fetish, that's just an emotionally abusive relationship. If you hold that sex is a sacred act only between two exclusive partners then (obviously) cuckoldry isn't for you. I consider exclusivity important, so if my fiancee told me she wanted a sexual relationship with someone else I would consider that the end of our relationship. But I know not everyone feels the same way, and there are people who view sex a lot more casually than I do, so for them it isn't an intimate betrayal if their partner wants an open relationship. If they make it work and are emotionally and physically satisfied, more power to them.
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;53084231]Defensive much?[/QUOTE] Mmm not really? There are dipshits, the issue with furry as a whole is that its a life style choice that you then throw fetishes on. Furry can and does include all other fetishes in a way that's not seen with other fetishes. Plus, most of our confirmation about batshit furries comes from the internet. Echo chambers and algorithm induced confirmation bias.
[QUOTE=Monkey pie;53084197]Eh. People can do what they want but me personally think it's pathetic. Just feels like people in denial when they're like "Well watching my girlfriend feel good makes me feel good" hey you can do that with your penis too my man[/QUOTE] The key difference is watching from a third-person perspective. You can't exactly watch from a third-person perspective if you're involved in it. That inherently limits your field of view. Personally, I think that the rise of cuckold fantasies (specifically, the one where the uninvolved partner is watching but not participating, which this article is discussing in part) has a strong correlation to the rise of easier and less-stigmatized consumption of pornography, which is, in vast majority, shot from a third-person perspective. Cuckoldry gives some unique advantages over standard pornography: full 360* control of the visuals (you can walk around at will and see anything from any angle); being with someone you care about as opposed to a detached nobody (partner vs porn-star); and having the potential of providing input to see things that you specifically want to see (suggesting things). Not even filming yourself with your partner offers those advantages, with the exception of the "being with someone you care about", which can be offset by the self-consciousness some may feel about the fact it's them on camera, as opposed to some nobody. I'm not arguing one way or the other for the fantasy itself. I'm just sharing some observations I've personally made on the issue.
i'm not into it but if a couple enjoys it who gives a shit? their bedroom is their bedroom. kinkshaming is dumb as fuck. bdsm has plenty of embarrassment shit and no one bats an eye at it anymore.
[QUOTE=catbarf;53084233]I'm not familiar with the specifics of cuckold relationships, but when it comes to open marriage I know that providing for the emotional needs of the primary partner is extremely important, so that those feelings of inadequacy and resentment don't develop and they do feel in control. Aftercare, openness, trust, and consent are all extremely important in delineating a healthy fetish from an unhealthy, abusive relationship. I mean, I don't think a cuckold is okay with just randomly walking in on their spouse cheating on them, any more than someone who enjoys S&M is okay with being a victim of domestic violence. It doesn't matter if the physical act is the same, or that the fetish itself involves a loss of control in the act, it's the loss of control over the entire scenario and trust in their partner that matters. In a mutually consensual, non-exclusive relationship like cuckoldry or open marriage, it's expected that both partners are respecting each other's wishes, and both partners have veto power over the other's choice of partner. If one partner just decides on their own that they want to fuck other people, and the other partner just accepts it while feeling hurt, that's not a cuckoldry fetish, that's just an emotionally abusive relationship. If you hold that sex is a sacred act only between two exclusive partners then (obviously) cuckoldry isn't for you. I consider exclusivity important, so if my fiancee told me she wanted a sexual relationship with someone else I would consider that the end of our relationship. But I know not everyone feels the same way, and there are people who view sex a lot more casually than I do, so for them it isn't an intimate betrayal if their partner wants an open relationship. If they make it work and are emotionally and physically satisfied, more power to them.[/QUOTE] But as far as I can tell, the appeal of cuckoldry comes solely from the fact that it [I]is[/I] something that you care about, because otherwise it'd just be a standard open relationship. Then again, my view of cuckoldry as a fetish largely comes from people spamming various online boards with cuck porn for the last few years, and they probably aren't posting representative works.
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;53084230]if all parties consent to the cuckolding then i don't think there's any problems with it but i feel like it is one of those fetishes where if you have even a shred of doubt about it then you really shouldn't participate. i could see it being quite damaging to a relationship if that is the case.[/QUOTE] I think if you are already at the point of thinking about cuckolding the relationship is already in a sense damaged. While I understand that some people are a lot more to their senses with their sexual fetishes and see a clear line between sex and love, I personally don't buy into that shit. and I don't mean that in a mean way, it just isn't my thing. If I had my girlfriend say this was her fetish I'd suggest for her to download tinder and not be in a relationship.
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;53084221]for some reason, as in the article doesn't specify that part in its title but sources it to a study that does it even uses 2 men with a woman in the picture[/QUOTE] Seems implied that the writer interviewed the authors, as well as taking snippets from the introduction section of the study - using the study as a core to build a more general article.
[QUOTE=OmTheory;53084248]I think if you are already at the point of thinking about cuckoolding the relationship is already in a sense damaged. While I understand that some people are a lot more to their senses with their sexual fetishes and see a clear line between sex and love, I personally don't buy into that shit. If I had my girlfriend say this was her fetish I'd suggest for her to download tinder and not be in a relationship.[/QUOTE] People view things differently. If you would seriously judge your partner for coming forward to you to confide in you about a sexual interest of theirs, you're probably an asshole.
[QUOTE=OmTheory;53084248]I think if you are already at the point of thinking about cuckoolding the relationship is already in a sense damaged. While I understand that some people are a lot more to their senses with their sexual fetishes and see a clear line between sex and love, I personally don't buy into that shit. If I had my girlfriend say this was her fetish I'd suggest for her to download tinder and not be in a relationship.[/QUOTE] That's partly doing the right thing, by getting out a relationship when you won't be able to satisfy your partner. But you don't really need the insults lol [QUOTE=phygon;53084247]But as far as I can tell, the appeal of cuckoldry comes solely from the fact that it [I]is[/I] something that you care about, because otherwise it'd just be a standard open relationship. Then again, my view of cuckoldry as a fetish largely comes from people spamming various online boards with cuck porn for the last few years, and they probably aren't posting representative works.[/QUOTE] Eh, partly. I'm sure a lot of people it largely hinges on the voyeur aspect. According to the study there's a lot of overlap of kinks in the areas of group sex, voyeur, and some BDSM stuff.
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;53084246]i'm not into it but if a couple enjoys it who gives a shit? their bedroom is their bedroom. kinkshaming is dumb as fuck. bdsm has plenty of embarrassment shit and no one bats an eye at it anymore.[/QUOTE] on one hand it is good that people don't feel apprehension about following their kinks, but on the other hand things like BDSM becoming mainstream somewhat takes away from it, makes it less appealing because it doesn't have that taboo aspect to it. getting pegged and whipped isn't as kinky if you know it is something that won't make people squirm.
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