Intel Says AMD EPYC Processors "Glued-together" in Official Slide Deck - Sensationalist Headlines

Some videos came out from an Epyc tech day, note the lack of cheap jabs and name calling [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B65uPAFGse8[/media] [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoelgG8JoyQ[/media] [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5IhEit6NqY[/media]

Can't wait for companies like Amazon and Google to start buying them up. It's been a long time since the price per unit of compute dropped on cloud services.

[QUOTE=glitchvid;52474149]Can't wait for companies like Amazon and Google to start buying them up. It's been a long time since the price per unit of compute dropped on cloud services.[/QUOTE] It'll take some time before AMD would be ready to deliver the bulk orders they'd place. But I wouldn't be surprised if they're not already in talks about shipping them a evaluation kit of enough processors to realistically simulate one of their typical server cluster environments.

All this shit started happening just after I bought my first Intel CPU ever. [editline]19th July 2017[/editline] Doesn't change a thing for me, the 6700 is great. It just seems ironic to me.

[QUOTE=Kel|oggs;52486871]All this shit started happening just after I bought my first Intel CPU ever. [editline]19th July 2017[/editline] Doesn't change a thing for me, the 6700 is great. It just seems ironic to me.[/QUOTE] You're following the trends in the wrong direction, buddy :v:

[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;52486886]You're following the trends in the wrong direction, buddy :v:[/QUOTE] I was about to call him a CPU hipster, but realized that'd mean he acquiring a Itanium instead.

[QUOTE=Kel|oggs;52486871]All this shit started happening just after I bought my first Intel CPU ever. [editline]19th July 2017[/editline] Doesn't change a thing for me, the 6700 is great. It just seems ironic to me.[/QUOTE] I hear ya, man. When I built my first high-dollar rig back in late 2006, I bought an AMD FX-62 CPU for it. Literally a week after I pressed "Buy now", the Core series was released. :hammered:

Response on r/ayymd [t]http://i.imgur.com/QECchzU.png[/t]

Funny that Intel is stooping to this level considering their newest CPU's use mayo under the IHS.

Yep, at work we're replacing the last of the old Core 2 computers with Mini PCs with either Skylake or Kaby Lake. Seeing as how we run 7, it's not much fun either way, since you can't even image the thing right without some driver and Windows Update hacks. In a few years, though, those Minis will be ~toasty~

[QUOTE=gman003-main;52465238]To be fair, Intel has some chips that AMD isn't even trying to compete with. A fair list would have a couple "N/A" entries under AMD for quad/octa-socket systems, the ultra-low-cost Xeons (for shit that needs ECC for reliability but doesn't need much CPU power), and whatever it is the Omni-Path chips are actually used for. Granted, you could double AMD's product list and still not match Intel's grenade of product fragmentation, but it's slightly better than this image makes it look.[/QUOTE] Can't you argue EPYC 7251 is a competitor to all of these, though? Sure, it's 120W TDP vs. the 85W on the weakest Intels is a disadvantage, but not [I]that[/I] huge one, and literally only 3 Intels on that list are cheaper than it.

[QUOTE=millan;52493065]Can't you argue EPYC 7251 is a competitor to all of these, though? Sure, it's 120W TDP vs. the 85W on the weakest Intels is a disadvantage, but not [I]that[/I] huge one, and literally only 3 Intels on that list are cheaper than it.[/QUOTE] The 7251 is absolutely not a competitor to Intel's quad/octa-socket chips. If you're splurging for those, you're doing something where cores/board matters a hell of a lot, and a 16 core/board chip line doesn't at all compete with the 92 core/board and up Xeon Platinum chip lines. And I wouldn't say the 7251 is a good competitor with the bottom-end Xeon Bronzes, either. Those aren't for "servers" as much as they're for "appliances" - NAS boxes and stuff. TDP and cost matter, performance doesn't. It might compete a bit, enough to make Intel drop its prices a bit, but it's not that viable. I still don't know what niche the Omni-path stuff is filling. Probably weird proprietary addon crap. I'm sure AMD would let other companies use their Infinity Fabric thing, I'll be surprised if we don't see an EPYC+FirePro compute chip using that tech, but so far they're sticking to the standard CPU market. Which is, by far, a bigger and more important market than this weird Intel bullshit, so probably the right call by AMD to not fight them there yet.

[QUOTE=Richardroth;52492798]Funny that Intel is stooping to this level considering their newest CPU's use mayo under the IHS.[/QUOTE] Mayo legit conducts heat better than the shit they use.

[QUOTE=Ogris;52499020]Mayo legit conducts heat better than the shit they use.[/QUOTE] [IMG]https://thumbs.gfycat.com/GraciousActiveCoral-size_restricted.gif[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Ogris;52499020]Mayo legit conducts heat better than the shit they use.[/QUOTE] I want someone to test random household condiments vs whatever they use

[QUOTE=Liem;52512210]I want someone to test random household condiments vs whatever they use[/QUOTE] [url=http://www.dansdata.com/goop.htm]Here's one[/url]. Someone on reddit did the whole delidding and tried toothpaste on a 7700k (?) and it actually worked well until it dried out.

[QUOTE=Liem;52512210]I want someone to test random household condiments vs whatever they use[/QUOTE] I remember seeing an article that tested shit like toothpaste and mayonnaise as thermal paste. Can't find it though unfortunately.

[QUOTE=da space core;52499172][IMG]https://thumbs.gfycat.com/GraciousActiveCoral-size_restricted.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE] [img]http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/wp-content/uploads/tcr9-g1.gif[/img] I'm not even joking here guys.

[QUOTE=Ogris;52512316][img]http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/wp-content/uploads/tcr9-g1.gif[/img] I'm not even joking here guys.[/QUOTE] Well, now I know not to buy Rosewill paste :v:

[QUOTE=Ogris;52512316][img]http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/wp-content/uploads/tcr9-g1.gif[/img] I'm not even joking here guys.[/QUOTE] Nevermind that fucking [I]mayonnaise[/I] was somehow better than actual thermal compound.

After that video being released of all the shady and illegal shit that Intel has done to AMD I'm happy seeing AMD finally rise. Fuck Intel. I've seen shit companies but they're one of the worst I've seen yet.

[QUOTE=ChronoBlade;52513652]After that video being released of all the shady and illegal shit that Intel has done to AMD I'm happy seeing AMD finally rise. Fuck Intel. I've seen shit companies but they're one of the worst I've seen yet.[/QUOTE] AMD rise and fall fairly often to be honest. They break a lot of ground with the technology because they quite literally have to (x64/x86_64 came about thanks to them after all). Whereas Intel always have this baseline amount of market share that they almost certainly wont lose any time soon thanks to OEMs and larger businesses bulk buying (researchers tend towards Intel farms too, AMD may change that with Ryzen based stuff). This is the first PC I've built that uses an Intel chip, because at the time my choices were wait out Ryzen (this was nearly two years ago now, so it wasn't worth it), or deal with an FX chip. I just so happened to pick my chip and board up for a bit of a discount at the time too. So Intel it was.

[QUOTE=hexpunK;52513670]AMD rise and fall fairly often to be honest. They break a lot of ground with the technology because they quite literally have to (x64/x86_64 came about thanks to them after all). Whereas Intel always have this baseline amount of market share that they almost certainly wont lose any time soon thanks to OEMs and larger businesses bulk buying (researchers tend towards Intel farms too, AMD may change that with Ryzen based stuff). This is the first PC I've built that uses an Intel chip, because at the time my choices were wait out Ryzen (this was nearly two years ago now, so it wasn't worth it), or deal with an FX chip. I just so happened to pick my chip and board up for a bit of a discount at the time too. So Intel it was.[/QUOTE] OEM's buy Intel because they are bribed to do so :v:

[QUOTE=AJ10017;52513959]OEM's buy Intel because they are bribed to do so :v:[/QUOTE] Probably less of a outright bribe, more of a "we're willing to sell you our processors at a big discount IF you ONLY sell ours" deal. And marketing because normal people probably still remember the "Intel inside" TV commercials.

[QUOTE=Van-man;52513972]Probably less of a outright bribe, more of a "we're willing to sell you our processors at a big discount IF you ONLY sell ours" deal. And marketing because normal people probably still remember til "Intel inside" TV commercials.[/QUOTE] Take a look at the video in this thread and tell me Intel isn't bribing OEM's to not use AMD chips. [URL="https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1572822"]https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1572822[/URL] AMD offered to give away 1 million chips to OEM's [I]FOR FREE[/I] and they turned them down because they'd lose that sweet sweet Intel money just for using AMD chips.

[QUOTE=Ogris;52512316][img]http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/wp-content/uploads/tcr9-g1.gif[/img] I'm not even joking here guys.[/QUOTE] No peanut butter? I want to see creamy vs crunchy.

[QUOTE=AJ10017;52513988]Take a look at the video in this thread and tell me Intel isn't bribing OEM's to not use AMD chips. [URL="https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1572822"]https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1572822[/URL] AMD offered to give away 1 million chips to OEM's [I]FOR FREE[/I] and they turned them down because they'd lose that sweet sweet Intel money just for using AMD chips.[/QUOTE] They're still doing it? I though that time they got sued and lost hard was enough for them to keep it only legally questionable.