Video gaming disorder to be officially recognised for first time
70 replies, posted
Finally.
League of Legends will be no more.
[QUOTE=Pascall;52995317]I guess the real issue is that a lot of video games present such an interesting world dynamic that gives us a substantially better reward for actually doing things WITHIN the world of the game itself, which is a lot of times completely opposite to our actual lives.
Like a lot of people right now especially struggle to find jobs that make them feel like what they're doing is worthwhile, they struggle with school and classes that seem pointless, they want for money to help them afford basic things, and a lot of people just want some kind of purpose. But in a video game, most of the time, your purpose is pretty fucking clear. Not to mention, you often have companions in the game that are far more loyal than what might seem like the overly complex nature of actual real world interpersonal relationships.
I mean in general, video games are just incredibly more rewarding and are a lot better at instilling a sense of purpose than the real world is. And I think a lot of times, that's how people lose themselves in it. Real life kind of sucks. Nobody wants you to save the world or the universe or the galaxy or whatever in real life. It's different from movies and TV in the sense that you're not playing the hero in those types of media while a lot of video games give you ultimate control of the fate of the universe it's put in.
ANYWAY that's like a really base level analysis kind of drawn from my own reasons for playing video games, but I'm at least grounded enough in real life to know that I can't spend 12-18 hours a day playing games. I might take a day here and there and spend all day playing, but only if I have literally nothing else I should be doing.
tl;dr: real life boring, video game life great[/QUOTE]
Not to mention, until recently, it was a great equalizer for people of different financial backgrounds. Everybody was equal footing in a video game, even if you were balls to the wall rich.
I used to be addicted to video games but now I can barely open a game before getting bored and closing it. Sometimes I get in moods to play a lot but largely whenever I launch a game I just lose the want to play
cant wait for this shit to be on tv to get the typical this is about you messages from family like anything even remotely related to games, as they continue to watch their 15th series of xfactor/soap opera deal or no deal get me out of here trash with mobiles in hand.
I think it's important for everyone to actually read what the DSM-V defines as IGD, back then, IGD (Internet Gaming Disorder) wasn't exactly an "official" disorder, it was in the DSM-V but under the "Condition for Further Studies", which was a request for further additional research. I'm not sure if the diagnostic criteria changed after these years researching it, but while it was under conditions for further studies, its diagnostic criteria were:
[QUOTE]1. Repetitive use of Internet-based games, often with other players, that leads to significant issues with functioning. Five of the following criteria must be met within one year:
2. Preoccupation or obsession with Internet games.
3. Withdrawal symptoms when not playing Internet games.
4. A build-up of tolerance–more time needs to be spent playing the games.
5. The person has tried to stop or curb playing Internet games, but has failed to do so.
6. The person has had a loss of interest in other life activities, such as hobbies.
7. A person has had continued overuse of Internet games even with the knowledge of how much they impact a person’s life.
8. The person lied to others about his or her Internet game usage.
9. The person uses Internet games to relieve anxiety or guilt–it’s a way to escape.
10. The person has lost or put at risk and opportunity or relationship because of Internet games.[/QUOTE]
And no, excessive usage of internet for social media is not synonymous with IGD, but for gambling it's a whole different case which doesn't tie in into IGD but rather a different disorder related to gambling.
My brother must have this, he's been given an ultimatum by my family between gaming and us... I don't know if that is the proper way of going about helping someone but he sold his PC and Xbox so?
I don't know if it would be insulting to mention this to him either, he's taking is pretty hard!
I think it would be ridiculous if someone used this an excuse for bitching about playing video games. Normally, DSM-V mentions that the prevalence of this disorder is mostly concentrated in Asian countries within young teenagers (age 12 to 20), and I think anyone here has a good idea of how insanely competitive and wild video game addiction can be there in Korea.
My brother (call him T) is definitely a videogame addict. He spends all of his money on games and has an unhealthy impatience with them. Once, my other brother (call him C) got Dead Space for his birthday. T wanted to borrow it and C said "Not until I finish it". T, instead of waiting, went out and bought a new copy.
T is in the navy, and I went down to visit him once. He had his 3DS and we played pokemon together. When I went back up home after visiting him, I was helping my parents pack some of his stuff up. I found another 3DS in his drawer. T had left his 3DS in Virginia before going to boot camp, and then after boot camp, instead of asking us to ship him his 3DS, went out and bought a new one.
He was especially addicted to WoW, and also tried every new MMO that came out. He must had had 10 different MMO subscriptions at a time.
[QUOTE=joshthesmith;52995802]My brother must have this, he's been given an ultimatum by my family between gaming and us... I don't know if that is the proper way of going about helping someone but he sold his PC and Xbox so?
I don't know if it would be insulting to mention this to him either, he's taking is pretty hard![/QUOTE]
It depends. Some people will respond to certain methods while other people will completely shut down if presented with an ultimatum. It sounds like your brother is struggling with it, but he did ultimately manage to get rid of what he was addicted to. Which is basically going cold turkey.
It might end up being good for him. I'd really just be encouraging and maybe help him explore and find some different hobbies he might enjoy that are a little less time consuming and healthier.
if I stop playing video games
what the fuck else to do
[QUOTE=SenhorCreeper;52995810]I think it would be ridiculous if someone used this an excuse for bitching about playing video games. Normally, DSM-V mentions that the prevalence of this disorder is mostly concentrated in Asian countries within young teenagers (age 12 to 20), and I think anyone here has a good idea of how insanely competitive and wild video game addiction can be there in Korea.[/QUOTE]
Im pretty sure ive seen a handful of articles/videoa of people murdering others in video game cafe's in korea/china, the pay per hour shit is serious.
[QUOTE=damnatus;52995827]if I stop playing video games
what the fuck else to do[/QUOTE]
1.) Pick up programming
2.) Pick up reading
3.) Burn through some movies
4.) Learn to cook
5.) Learn to draw
6.) Become addicted to the gym/working out
7.) Get a girl/boy/otherkin-friend
[B][U][I]8.) Play video games in moderation[/I][/U][/B]
I used to play videogames all day every day when I was 15, but by the time I was 17 I didn't anymore. Now that I'm 22, I feel like I've rarely got time for videogames, and if I do I get bored after about an hour. I play maybe 2 hours of video games a week. Most of my free time is spent with my girlfriend or programming. Of course, you don't have to quit video games. Nearly everything is fine in moderation.
If you manage to play games an hour a day, that seems about healthy to me. When I was a kid my mom only let us play 30m a day.
But, if you're a professional streamer, then feel free to play games 8 hours a day. If your significant other wants to spend all day playing games, then do that.
An addiction is an addiction only if it's unhealthy or getting in the way of your day to day life. If you're successful and happy and still manage to play 4 hours of games a day, then you're doing it right
You could always learn how to MAKE video games too! I'm not really technically savvy enough to pick up developing, but I sure know what kind of stuff I would want from like my ideal game lol.
Teach yourself some cool stuff and maybe make some cool little games from time to time to practice.
Video games let you experience some pretty amazing moments. I remember I was playing oblivion, and this woman in this town said she was happy to see me. You just can't get that kind of feeling in real life, you know?
[QUOTE=Ardosos;52995921]Video games let you experience some pretty amazing moments. I remember I was playing oblivion, and this woman in this town said she was happy to see me. You just can't get that kind of feeling in real life, you know?[/QUOTE]
[IMG_thumb]https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/430768695481466880/JB-QsLM4.jpeg[/IMG_thumb]
I know right. Oh the memories!
i mean, video games are addicting by default. But that's in the same way that a lot of common things are addicting, like coffee, Netflix, chocolate, smartphones, fast food, wikipedia, etc.
Addictions are everywhere in regular life, and i think it's important to recognize it, but not to catastrophize it. If you drink three cups of coffee every day, but the addiction or its withdrawal don't significantly hamper your daily life or personal goals, then it's something you're able to manage and it's really up to you to decide whether you should stop or not.
Video game addiction can be devastating. It can be managed. It can be avoided, and some people just don't get hooked. I think in order to help folks who have debilitating addictions to games, though, we need to recognize that the addiction is real at a baseline, and whether someone needs help is based on how hooked they are and how much their life suffers for it.
Can fast threads be classified as an addiction and if so can that subforum be quarantined to prevent contamination?
[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;52996572]Looks like I have an addiction, looking at those conditions. It has only affected my life for the better though.
Games taught me language skills as a child, and essentially all my real life friendships have had videogames as the foundation.[/QUOTE]
The purpose of mostly of those conditions are tied to significant issues with functioning in your life, so no, you don't have most of these conditions unless it's obvious that it causes [I]severe[/I] issues with functioning in your life, even if the criteria is mostly mild
[QUOTE=The Saiko;52995276]My cousin basically ruined his life because of WoW. He was playing like 16-18 hours a day, lost his girlfriend, all of his friends and failed every exam in school. Still continued playing. If that's not addiction I don't know what is.[/QUOTE]
That's me minus the losing the girlfriend and friends.
[QUOTE=proboardslol;52995844]
I used to play videogames all day every day when I was 15, but by the time I was 17 I didn't anymore. Now that I'm 22, I feel like I've rarely got time for videogames, and if I do I get bored after about an hour. I play maybe 2 hours of video games a week. Most of my free time is spent with my girlfriend or programming. Of course, you don't have to quit video games. Nearly everything is fine in moderation.
[/QUOTE]
This is pretty much me now.
I used to do nothing other than play video games.
When I started to learn programming, games began very slowly to lose it's touch.
Even after getting a girlfriend (Now wife) made me realize there is much more than video games.
Now I'm starting on a quadcopter hobby with some colleagues, and I'm loving it.
So now I mostly spend my spare time programming, doing my hobby or spending time with my wife.
[QUOTE=The Saiko;52995276]My cousin basically ruined his life because of WoW. He was playing like 16-18 hours a day, lost his girlfriend, all of his friends and failed every exam in school. Still continued playing. If that's not addiction I don't know what is.[/QUOTE]
Heh yeah my cousin kinda same thing. He got divorced, broken up by two girls and lost two houses because of WoW. He's better now but still actively plays.
[QUOTE=Pascall;52995816]It depends. Some people will respond to certain methods while other people will completely shut down if presented with an ultimatum. It sounds like your brother is struggling with it, but he did ultimately manage to get rid of what he was addicted to. Which is basically going cold turkey.
It might end up being good for him. I'd really just be encouraging and maybe help him explore and find some different hobbies he might enjoy that are a little less time consuming and healthier.[/QUOTE]
I sold my gaming pc and stopped paying for fiber optic internet and upgraded my phone service to an unlimited data offer. Now I just do an all nighter on a local internet cafe when the gaming withdrawals get too bad.
It has really helped sorting my shit out.
[QUOTE=damnatus;52995827]if I stop playing video games
what the fuck else to do[/QUOTE]
Earn money and do more fun and meaningful activites with the money...
[QUOTE=kaskade700;52998135]
Earn money and do more fun and meaningful activites with the money...[/QUOTE]
aaaaand what if you're a lazy shit who always takes the easy way, so instead of "work hard play hard" its "work sometimes, get paid just enough to survive"?
Then enjoy your lazy shit life.
jokes aside, it doesn't have to be helicopter lessons it can be a crayon set or anything interest related.
With no gaming pc I tend to read and draw a lot more, maybe you play music or smth i don't know. Maybe playing video games really is the best thing you can be doing.
Its easy to turn and point at something and state that someone's life is amiss because of one singular factor as many stories have pointed out.
The biggest issue for Gaming Addiction is that the people that get addicted are those that either have empowerment issues, anti-social tendencies, anxiety/depression related issues or just baseline addictive personality disorder.
Videogames, as part of good design, directly attack all of those points. But they're not alone. Books, movies, music and basically media in general attack these issues. You throw in the internet, a highly connected society and social media attachments to all this and you're pretty much looking at an addiction cocktail that no one can run away from, even the people who go off grid.
I don't mean to personally attack those who said they got bored and somehow their life got better as its clear that they had several other developments involved in that. Correlation =/= causation as it were. I would rather see the rational and recommendations for treatment by experts before we start giving life advice to strangers on the internet.
Especially in an environment such as Social Media which has been found to be far more pervasive and even more negative in impact than gaming.
Let people do what makes them happy as long as it doesn't significantly and negatively affect their lives.
It's not up to society to tell someone that they are wasting their lives doing what they enjoy.
[QUOTE=Dumpus;52999793]Let people do what makes them happy as long as it doesn't significantly and negatively affect their lives.
It's not up to society to tell someone that they are wasting their lives doing what they enjoy.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure it has to affect your life negatively for it to be considered a disorder.
[QUOTE=_Axel;52999806]I'm pretty sure it has to affect your life negatively for it to be considered a disorder.[/QUOTE]
Fair enough, but in that case I don't see why you need a classification for it.
Videogames might have some properties that make them in general more addictive than TV or books, but not enough for it to be specialized out as a medical problem while other non-physical addictions fall by the wayside.
Hell, even things like exercise and sports can negatively affect your life if done in excess.
Wouldn't being addicted to video games be accredited to other things? Escapism, etc
[QUOTE=Riller;52994986]So does that mean facepunch is now in the same classification as those anorexia forums that help with tips on how to eat less and hide food from your family?[/QUOTE]
haha no we don't play video games here we just talk about them
Sorry, you need to Log In to post a reply to this thread.