Every Dallas Weather Siren Hacked on Friday To Go Off At Once
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[QUOTE=michaeldim;52087252]When you hear sirens, you're supposed to turn on a TV/radio to figure out what's going on, you don't automatically leave the house.[/QUOTE]
Also in the midwest, it means get the fuck [i]inside[/i] because tornado danger is imminent. Evacuating is actually the [i]worst[/i] possible idea.
But then again, they are set to the attack signal, rather than the weather one, which would be a bit disconcerting. Either way, turning on the local media is the correct thing to do, not evacuating.
[QUOTE=Snowmew;52087491]The electric ones can play voices and different tones and shit like that which would be more helpful.[/QUOTE]
Ah! You think it would be a defense project then rather than a mayor? Oh, Well.
[QUOTE=Demache;52087492]Also in the midwest, it means get the fuck [I]inside[/I] because tornado danger is imminent. Evacuating is actually the [I]worst[/I] possible idea.
But then again, they are set to the attack signal, rather than the weather one, which would be a bit disconcerting.[/QUOTE]
Best thing you can do is get into a cellar/basement or in a central area of a building. If you're caught outside take cover in a ditch or any low-lying areas and keep your head down. Last place you want to be is in a car that can be picked up and thrown.
I've also heard that panic rooms can be good shelters as well.
[QUOTE=Bbarnes005;52087514]Best thing you can do is get into a cellar/basement. I've also heard that panic rooms can be good shelters as well.[/QUOTE]
Cellar/basement and barring that, an interior room of the house without windows like a bathroom. Never a trailer home though.
Although less than optimal as your exposed, a low ditch (not an overpass or culvert) is the best place outside. It reduces your surface area from wind and debris.
[QUOTE=Demache;52087526]Cellar/basement and barring that, an interior room of the house without windows like a bathroom. Never a trailer home though.
Although less than optimal as your exposed, a low ditch (not an overpass or culvert) is the best place outside. It reduces your surface area from wind and debris.[/QUOTE]
Yeah despite what that one (in)famous video shows, overpasses are NOT a safe place during a tornado as shown here:
[video=youtube;xJkDphU5olo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJkDphU5olo[/video]
And here's the other video if you're interested in seeing that as well:
[video=youtube;lHBZylcxIvw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHBZylcxIvw[/video]
The only reason these people didn't get nuked by the twister is because it didn't directly hit the overpass which was oddly designed as most overpasses don't have that little space they hid in.
Also don't try to outrun a tornado in a car as well because you'll most likely lose as most tornadoes move extremely fast.
[QUOTE=Demache;52087492]Also in the midwest, it means get the fuck [i]inside[/i] because tornado danger is imminent. Evacuating is actually the [i]worst[/i] possible idea.
But then again, they are set to the attack signal, rather than the weather one, which would be a bit disconcerting. Either way, turning on the local media is the correct thing to do, not evacuating.[/QUOTE]
There really is no standardization to signals, lots of places use wail/attack for tornadoes. Some use Hi-low even. Or whatever the fuck this is:
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy_oX6SURRE&t=30s[/media]
[QUOTE=michaeldim;52087713]There really is no standardization to signals, lots of places use wail/attack for tornadoes. Some use Hi-low even. Or whatever the fuck this is:
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy_oX6SURRE&t=30s[/media][/QUOTE]
this sounds like whale sounds
[QUOTE=meppers;52085954]I live in dallas. the weather was clear on friday. if you hear an alarm you check the weather on your phone. then you go back to bed when you see no green blobs on the radar[/QUOTE]
Not everyone has the convenience of a smartphone or a weather app or a data plan.
[QUOTE=michaeldim;52087713]There really is no standardization to signals, lots of places use wail/attack for tornadoes. Some use Hi-low even. Or whatever the fuck this is:
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy_oX6SURRE&t=30s[/media][/QUOTE]
It sounds like a weird combination of attack and hi-lo. They sound more electronic.
The old Thunderbolt sirens apparently could be equipped with it and it sounds rad on a mechanical one.
[video=youtube;V-FWTQYzH_4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-FWTQYzH_4[/video]
[QUOTE=Demache;52087867]It sounds like a weird combination of attack and hi-lo. They sound more electronic.
The old Thunderbolt sirens apparently could be equipped with it and it sounds rad on a mechanical one.
[video=youtube;V-FWTQYzH_4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-FWTQYzH_4[/video][/QUOTE]
Holy shit, there is a whole sub-community for signals and sirens on youtube.
I probably gonna have one of those vids pop up now regularly my 'recommended videos' for the next months for sure.
[QUOTE=michaeldim;52087713]There really is no standardization to signals, lots of places use wail/attack for tornadoes. Some use Hi-low even. Or whatever the fuck this is:
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy_oX6SURRE&t=30s[/media][/QUOTE]
Alternate/hi-lo wail, common on electrics because, well, people tend to notice.
[QUOTE=Coolboy;52088276]Holy shit, there is a whole sub-community for signals and sirens on youtube.
I probably gonna have one of those vids pop up now regularly my 'recommended videos' for the next months for sure.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, a lot of fucking weird kids love these things (including me back when I was a fucking weird kid) so there's enough videos to watch for years and years nonstop.
[QUOTE=papkee;52085882]"hacked"
[B]
Unfortunately most outdoor warning sirens use a standard radio receiver that listens for either a string of dtmf codes or an FSK data burst. All you have to do is listen on the frequency during the monthly test, grab a recording of the data, and with any cheap chinese radio you're now a certified "hacker".[/B]
The only reason more people don't do this kind of thing is because there are huge legal penalties if you're caught, and it's relatively easy to track down the source of the radio signal. IIRC there was a case in Michigan a while ago where the guy ended up getting a massive amount of jailtime.[/QUOTE]
What do you think hacking [I]is[/I]
People seem to classify literally everything as "not hacking" just because it appears easy.
Do you have any idea how fast the FCC would trash your ass if you broadcasted something that loud in a band that you're not allowed to broadcast in if you didn't know what you were doing?
[QUOTE=Snowmew;52088871]Alternate/hi-lo wail, common on electrics because, well, people tend to notice.
Yeah, a lot of fucking weird kids love these things (including me back when I was a fucking weird kid) so there's enough videos to watch for years and years nonstop.[/QUOTE]
Yep I was big into these like 8 years ago. There is literally a fan community for everything.
[QUOTE=meppers;52085954]I live in dallas. the weather was clear on friday. if you hear an alarm you check the weather on your phone. then you go back to bed when you see no green blobs on the radar[/QUOTE]
These sirens dont exist only for weather events.
[QUOTE=phygon;52088955]What do you think hacking [I]is[/I]
People seem to classify literally everything as "not hacking" just because it appears easy.
Do you have any idea how fast the FCC would trash your ass if you broadcasted something that loud in a band that you're not allowed to broadcast in if you didn't know what you were doing?[/QUOTE]
The literal definition of hacking is any kind of unauthorized access, so technically yes it's hacking, however colloquially hacking is typically referred to as having a certain level of security on what's being hacked and having the certain level of knowledge needed to be able to bypass it. I get where papkee is coming from, there's literally no security on this so anyone could do it and as such it wouldn't refer to the colloquial definition of hacking, but by dictionary definition it definitely still counts as hacking.
[QUOTE=Snowmew;52088871]Alternate/hi-lo wail, common on electrics because, well, people tend to notice.
Yeah, a lot of fucking weird kids love these things (including me back when I was a fucking weird kid) so there's enough videos to watch for years and years nonstop.[/QUOTE]
I'll still watch a few videos if I'm really drunk.
and maybe even sometimes when I'm not.
I always thought that siren was for warning nuclear attacks.
[QUOTE=OvB;52086077]I didn't think I needed to be explicitly specific.[/QUOTE]
Welcome to Facepunch.
[QUOTE=papkee;52085882]"hacked"
Unfortunately most outdoor warning sirens use a standard radio receiver that listens for either a string of dtmf codes or an FSK data burst. All you have to do is listen on the frequency during the monthly test, grab a recording of the data, and with any cheap chinese radio you're now a certified "hacker".
The only reason more people don't do this kind of thing is because there are huge legal penalties if you're caught, and it's relatively easy to track down the source of the radio signal. IIRC there was a case in Michigan a while ago where the guy ended up getting a massive amount of jailtime.[/QUOTE]
If you read the source:
[QUOTE]Officials have ruled out a remote hack — telling reporters someone gained [B]physical access[/B] to a hub connecting all the sirens, which may not be turned on again until Monday as the city tries to figure out who, how and why.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Matt2468rv;52098510]If you read the source:[/QUOTE]
[URL="https://www.dallasnews.com/news/news/2017/04/10/hacker-broadcast-signal-triggered-dallas-emergency-sirens-friday-night"]but what about this[/URL]
[QUOTE=papkee;52085882]"hacked"
Unfortunately most outdoor warning sirens use a standard radio receiver that listens for either a string of dtmf codes or an FSK data burst. All you have to do is listen on the frequency during the monthly test, grab a recording of the data, and with any cheap chinese radio you're now a certified "hacker".
The only reason more people don't do this kind of thing is because there are huge legal penalties if you're caught, and it's relatively easy to track down the source of the radio signal. IIRC there was a case in Michigan a while ago where the guy ended up getting a massive amount of jailtime.[/QUOTE]
isn't hacking just making technology do things it wasn't supposed to do? i don't think you need cain & abel to be considered a hacker :v:
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