Ridley Scott announces plan to make four more Aliens movies, including prequel to upcoming Covenant
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[QUOTE=postal;51975363]yea maybe before they cut out all the scenes that actually made shit make sense and kept redoing the script to make the alien connection more and more vague lol. I mean the script I can at least get over but some of the scenes they deleted really needed to be left in. I just really want an extended cut.
that films probably never gonna happen now. it was delayed at first to put space between it and Covenant, but now that Ridley keeps announcing more and more Alien movies and Neil's confidence in the film happening gets less and less i don't think they'll ever actually get around to it[/QUOTE]
i liked Prometheus, but I agree there were so many holes and questions to be answered. May need to see D.C.
Prometheus may be the the dumbest piece of shit I saw in the last 10 years. Made me completely ignore any other movie reboot. I have zero faith in this and will just stick to the originals.
[QUOTE=postal;51975128]Not to be outdone by James Cameron and his love of announcing more Avatar movies before he's even finished the first sequel, Ridley Scott had this to say today before Alien Covenant is even out:
[url]http://www.fandango.com/movie-news/how-noomi-rapace-will-return-for-alien-covenant-plus-at-least-four-more-alien-movies-in-the-works-752049[/url] (note: this article has Covenant spoilers, even sorta in the title. Less spoilery recap [url=http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/827213-ridley-scott-alien-movies]here[/url])
and then if this news wasn't enough, he also said one is tentatively called "Alien: Awakening" and would take place between Prometheus and Alien Covenant. Just to fuck with audiences' heads some more. ofc who knows if any of this will actually happen, especially since it's all riding on if Alien Covenant meets whatever Fox's box office expectations are.[/QUOTE]
Last week he was saying six, maybe he realized his age in between press announcements.
[QUOTE=LZTYBRN;51975779]You can find deeper meaning in the star wars prequels if you try hard enough[/QUOTE]
feel free to elaborate because none of the star wars had any profound effect on me. the first two were ok.
A group of researchers/explorers/marines will land on a unexplored planet/rescue beacon/research site and find a lot of dead crew etc, then they will find eggs. One of the crew will get caught offguard by a facehugger. Crewmemember will wake up thinking everything was a bad dream, go back to rest of crew, get chestbusted, alien continues to hunt rest of crew until climax where ~Main character~ kills it in an innovative way.
There now you've seen all the 4 sequels.
[QUOTE=AK'z;51975284]prometheus wasn't "generic garbage" though
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I never even mentioned Prometheus, I was only referring to Covenant exclusively.
[QUOTE=AK'z;51976074]feel free to elaborate because none of the star wars had any profound effect on me. the first two were ok.[/QUOTE]
and now you know how most people feel about prometheus
but to answer your question:
[video=youtube;Boe3Hf4uIL8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Boe3Hf4uIL8[/video]
[video]https://youtu.be/8VdcMWWh3s0[/video]
i still dont understand the hate for prometheus
it pales in comparison to alien, sure, but it's far better than alien 4 and probably better than the mess that resulted in what we got of alien 3
[QUOTE=koeniginator;51976363]i still dont understand the hate for prometheus
it pales in comparison to alien, sure, but it's far better than alien 4 and probably better than the mess that resulted in what we got of alien 3[/QUOTE]
You don't spend that kind of time, effort, and money on pure mediocrity.
I can't keep up with the timelines, is this a soft sequel prequel reboot or a reboot of the soft seaboot prequel?
I'll just go with a Soft Sequel of a Prequel Reboot Seaboot of Alien for now, it's the only way I can identify the film.
[QUOTE=CrowdControl;51976577]I can't keep up with the timelines, is this a soft sequel prequel reboot or a reboot of the soft seaboot prequel?
I'll just go with a Soft Sequel of a Prequel Reboot Seaboot of Alien for now, it's the only way I can identify the film.[/QUOTE]
SUPER SPOILERISH STUFF:
[sp]According to leaks and rumors, this movie is basically Prometheus 2 while doubling as a prequel to Alien. The big twist is that David, the android from the first film, is the creator of the xenomorphs[/sp]
I'd really like to see a TV series based on the Weyland-Yutani group because I found the corporate-thriller aspect of the motivations for repeatedly going there, the tech and other stuff from the movies to be very fascinating. It could also grow the Alien Universe itself, but in a tangential way - them figuring out what Aliens are, what they intend to do with it, the black goo, what little they learn of the Engineers.
[QUOTE=CrowdControl;51976577]I can't keep up with the timelines, is this a soft sequel prequel reboot or a reboot of the soft seaboot prequel?
I'll just go with a Soft Sequel of a Prequel Reboot Seaboot of Alien for now, it's the only way I can identify the film.[/QUOTE]
soft seafood?
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/C1pjZ6O.jpg[/IMG]
so nice to know this is oysters and a mixture of seafood inside, very tasty aliens.
[QUOTE=koeniginator;51976363]i still dont understand the hate for prometheus
it pales in comparison to alien, sure, but it's far better than alien 4 and probably better than the mess that resulted in what we got of alien 3[/QUOTE]
It makes no sense to anyone who spends more than 2 seconds thinking about it
It's a beautiful movie with one of the worst stories I've ever seen on cinema
I feel that Ridley is a man who doesn't care about the art of film anymore, he just enjoys the technical process. He stays in it for the money and the fun but not out of passion.
[QUOTE=Bertie;51986920]I feel that Ridley is a man who doesn't care about the art of film anymore, he just enjoys the technical process. He stays in it for the money and the fun but not out of passion.[/QUOTE]
I'd like to think he has a little bit of love left for filmmaking, but I agree it feels like he wants to see how far he can get with his twilight years fast approaching. He still has his directorial chops though and then some, Scott is easily one of my favorite directors.
[QUOTE=snookypookums;51976766]I'd really like to see a TV series based on the Weyland-Yutani group because I found the corporate-thriller aspect of the motivations for repeatedly going there, the tech and other stuff from the movies to be very fascinating. It could also grow the Alien Universe itself, but in a tangential way - them figuring out what Aliens are, what they intend to do with it, the black goo, what little they learn of the Engineers.[/QUOTE]
Yeah a corporate-thriller with some sci-fi horror & mystery thrown in to keep things interesting would be all sorts of awesome. I'd like to see how Yutani acquired Weyland Corp via corporate espionage & hostile takeover shenanigans. Hell I'd even take a mini-series for it. Theres plenty of unexplored lore & ideas in the Alien universe. I'd want one of the bigger cable names to do it though. Netflix has handled the Marvel properties very well in my opinion, but it seems if you want to go big I'd say HBO due to Westworld & Game of Thrones.
[QUOTE=koeniginator;51976363]i still dont understand the hate for prometheus
it pales in comparison to alien, sure, but it's far better than alien 4 and probably better than the mess that resulted in what we got of alien 3[/QUOTE]
It looks great, it plays all the tunes at the right moments and the pacing is excellent.
But the moment you stop watching it and taking everything at face value and start thinking about it it falls apart completely.
All the characters are complete and utter idiots. The expedition is so fucking unprofessional they would be much more believable as clueless space truckers than "scientists". There is no actual plot to follow in the movie, just a haunted house in space, which I would be fine with if the movie didn't pretend to have this epic journey exploration that's meant to answer the most meaningful questions that humanity ever asked, which by the way are hamfisted in there every 20 minutes or so in [I]case you forgot[/I] there's this epic exploration plot.
tl;dr This movie pretends to be this epic journey while it's just a haunted house in space and every character in the movie is a complete moron who pretends to be a scientist.
See, what was good about Alien was the fact that the crew was competent (aside from letting Kane onto the ship instead of following quarantine procedures, but that feels more like a human error based in emotion than pure incompetence and stupidity) and they were overwhelmed by a creature that they couldn't have imagined previously. All the deaths in prometheus happened because of either unclear motives by the people who allowed others to die or pure stupidity.
Why on earth would a biologist be too spooked to check out a dead alien body (should have been all on that shit) but try to pet an obviously hostile living alien worm?
How did the guy who mapped out the place get lost? He had the map! If anything everyone else should have gotten lost.
What was David's motivation? What was Weylands? What did it matter in the end that the chick was Weyland's daughter? What significance did that bring to the table?
Everyone acts really bizarrely and inconsistently and they make dumb decisions as the plot needs them to. It's a shit film.
[QUOTE=Itachi_Crow;51987131]See, what was good about Alien was the fact that the crew was competent (aside from letting Kane onto the ship instead of following quarantine procedures, but that feels more like a human error based in emotion than pure incompetence and stupidity) and they were overwhelmed by a creature that they couldn't have imagined previously. All the deaths in prometheus happened because of either unclear motives by the people who allowed others to die or pure stupidity.
Why on earth would a biologist be too spooked to check out a dead alien body (should have been all on that shit) but try to pet an obviously hostile living alien worm?
How did the guy who mapped out the place get lost? He had the map! If anything everyone else should have gotten lost.
What was David's motivation? What was Weylands? What did it matter in the end that the chick was Weyland's daughter? What significance did that bring to the table?
Everyone acts really bizarrely and inconsistently and they make dumb decisions as the plot needs them to. It's a shit film.[/QUOTE]
Exactly! The reason why alien was scary was because people who were watching the movie were connected with the characters. Because the characters were making smart choices which the audience were in support of and they would get equally fucked. Because you look at them getting ripped to pieces and think "well that could have been me because I would have done the same thing in his situation".
NOBODY thought "I would have petted a hissing alien space cobra thing" or "Yeah I would get lost too if I had a 3d map that I've just made". Nobody.
The scariest horrors are the ones where you support characters choices and they die anyway, not the ones where you think "that idiot deserved it for how stupid he was".
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On that note, the "explorers" in Covenant are not wearing helmets as well.
And then some alien shit flies into one of their ears and the dying starts.
I'm a colossal fanboy for aliens and those shit movies really strike my nerve.
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