James Cameron reveals Avatar sequels antagonist details *SPOILERS* - Sensationalist Headlines

Why overcomplicate things? Just nuke Pandora's surface into glass. [editline]9th August 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Simplemac3;52553143]but will they make me actually like the protagonist or acknowledge his wrongdoing remember the entire conflict with the na'vi and the military was because jake spent all of his time in his avatar fucking around and trying to bone neytri instead of doing his job which was [I]explain what the humans wanted and open negotiations [/I]and at the end after a shitload of humans and na'vi have died in a pointless conflict they're like "lol all's forgiven" i don't think i've ever wanted a protagonist to eat shit so badly in my life[/QUOTE] But that would have required both sides to act with a modicum of sanity and common sense. This is not a movie about either of those things. It's a movie about james Cameron's escapist power fantasy where he becomes a giant smurf hippie and fights the EVUUUUL HUMEEENS. Nearly all environmental movies I know never even consider the idea of both sides reaching a compromise. One is always perfectly good and innocent, and the other is pure evil for no reason. I kinda want to see a movie where nature is portrayed as evil, it would be different atleast.

I don't see how bombing the planet from space would suddenly disappear all the underground mineral deposits they're after. They would have been a lot more cautious in the first film if they were destroyed that easily. At the very least, firebombing everything should be more than enough. If the unobtanium is that crucial to human society then they shouldn't even need to bomb it, a planetary invasion with the full force of their military backing it should absolutely be enough to wipe out the space tree people. Think about all the settings there have ever been where humanity was on the defense against a worldwide invasion of futuristic aliens with superior numbers and technology. Now imagine that humanity was still tribal, and then reverse the situation. There shouldn't be THAT much of a contest, even with their fantasy powers.

If they're afraid of destroying the minerals, they could just shower the planet in VX and Agent Orange.

Don't forget that these sequels were planned [I]prior to the release of the first film.[/I] Cameron actually thinks that this is series potential. Its literally his childhood fantasy made manifest. which means its overexplained and includes lots of "BWEEEEONNNN I shot you with a [del]laser[/del] [I]pair of 4 ft long arrows[/I] and ur dead" "nuh UH I have a [del]SHIELD[/del] COMPREHENSIVE MEDICAL PLAN"

[QUOTE=Bazsil;52554914]I don't see how bombing the planet from space would suddenly disappear all the underground mineral deposits they're after. They would have been a lot more cautious in the first film if they were destroyed that easily. At the very least, firebombing everything should be more than enough. If the unobtanium is that crucial to human society then they shouldn't even need to bomb it, a planetary invasion with the full force of their military backing it should absolutely be enough to wipe out the space tree people. Think about all the settings there have ever been where humanity was on the defense against a worldwide invasion of futuristic aliens with superior numbers and technology. Now imagine that humanity was still tribal, and then reverse the situation. There shouldn't be THAT much of a contest, even with their fantasy powers.[/QUOTE] Is Avatar set in a future where earth is ruled by some imperium of man-ish government? Because wouldnt there be a tinsy bit of objection to eliminating an entire alien planet for like scientific purpose and etc?

[QUOTE=Bazsil;52554914]I don't see how bombing the planet from space would suddenly disappear all the underground mineral deposits they're after. They would have been a lot more cautious in the first film if they were destroyed that easily. At the very least, firebombing everything should be more than enough. If the unobtanium is that crucial to human society then they shouldn't even need to bomb it, a planetary invasion with the full force of their military backing it should absolutely be enough to wipe out the space tree people. Think about all the settings there have ever been where humanity was on the defense against a worldwide invasion of futuristic aliens with superior numbers and technology. Now imagine that humanity was still tribal, and then reverse the situation. There shouldn't be THAT much of a contest, even with their fantasy powers.[/QUOTE] According to the first movie, dropping rocks from pterodactyls and stampeding rhinos are basically on par with whatever flying machines and mechs the military has.

[QUOTE=Gauzemann;52554982]Is Avatar set in a future where earth is ruled by some imperium of man-ish government?[/QUOTE]almost, but not quite: it's apparently an overpopulated, polluted and resource-starved corporate-controlled dystopia as opposed to an overpopulated, polluted and resource-starved church-controlled dystopia

I don't see why people are so mad. Villain of the whole series might be a stretch but I don't mind seeing more of him. He was awesome in Avatar.

If they are going to stick with the characters, and go for the cloning route for the antags, I wish the series would get more and more over the top as it goes on. Like, they could exaggerate the nature vs tech theme harder and harder by introducing crazier, soulless mechanical enemies. They can even go for a end that the antags destroy the planet out of spite, then the planet doing some crazy weird shit to recover itself. With the all amazing CG we have nowadays, it could work imo.

I really hope they do not push it further. Can't we have just one of these fucking movies where nature and science find middle ground? It's the most rational course of action. If anything, it seems the guys on the nature camp are the ones who always resort to violence and think their opponents do the same. [editline]9th August 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Helix Snake;52555008]According to the first movie, dropping rocks from pterodactyls and stampeding rhinos are basically on par with whatever flying machines and mechs the military has.[/QUOTE] I think the excuse was "they are just civilian vehicles" because if they brought any actual military hardware the smurfs would be wiped out in seconds.

[QUOTE=Portugalotaku;52555919]I think the excuse was "they are just civilian vehicles" because if they brought any actual military hardware the smurfs would be wiped out in seconds.[/QUOTE]man if all the mech suits and that "flying pile of guns" megahelicopter are civilian grade hardware, i can't wait to see what sort of laser and bullet hellstorms the military stuff can unleash

[QUOTE=meppers;52551409]how would you survive this? [IMG]http://www.cinema52.com/2014/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/QuaritchArrowed-1024x576.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] I bet it's going to be like that was just his avatar body or something silly like that.

[QUOTE=Mellowbloom;52551376]I think you overestimated how much anybody liked any of those characters, jim[/QUOTE] I thought the movie was contrived as fuck but I still got goosebumps at the ending and could totally see why so many people fell into the money trap that was Avatar. Every inch of the plot, character design and setting were lifted from successful films in order to construct a film that was basically guaranteed to manipulate audiences into liking it. That's why you had people wanting to commit suicide because fucking Pandora didn't exist. It was straight pandering to audiences that weren't looking for anything new and interesting and it's not surprising that it actually pretty much worked, despite the hate the film received.