Mass Shooting in Las Vegas - 58 Dead at Least 515 Injured, Suspect Killed
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Some serious shit. My condolences to the families of those dead. Wishing that there will be no more, that all of our friends over there are okay.
This is horrible...
[QUOTE=Alec W;52737598]Does anyone have a link to where the briefing can be viewed online? Starts in a minute here.[/QUOTE]
Try live news feeds.
[QUOTE=phygon;52737596]4) DO NOT POST POLICE MOVEMENT OR POSITIONING[/QUOTE]
Ehh, if it's publicly available information it's fine, it's not like the suspects are reading this particular thread. Different story, when you are live at the scene though.
They just mentioned the guys from Battlefield Las Vegas on the scanner.
They mentioned loading wounded into the back of the vehicles.
[QUOTE=Binladen34;52737533]Cartels don't operate in a brutal slaying of completely un-involved civilians.
It's one of two things, either a fringe group of domestic terrorists, or a faction cell of foreign terrorists.[/QUOTE]
How come every time there's an active shooter everyone on FP becomes an expert on mass shootings and terrorists?
Can't people just wait until law enforcement gives actual details?
[QUOTE=phygon;52737596]4) DO NOT POST POLICE MOVEMENT OR POSITIONING[/QUOTE]
I really doubt the active shooter is currently reading fp
[QUOTE=marcoman99;52737380]So I'm watching some satellite feeds from CNN, FOX and ABC. One witness walked up to the reporter and said it looked like a warzone saying there was multiple cops down.
Also here's the local news feeds:
FOX [url]http://www.fox5vegas.com/category/214173/fox5newslive[/url]
ABC [url]http://www.ktnv.com/livestream[/url]
NBC [url]http://news3lv.com/live[/url]
CBS [url]http://www.lasvegasnow.com/live-stream[/url][/QUOTE]
@Sir_takeslot can you add these to the OP
[QUOTE=Del91;52737589]That...there's no way that's accurate.[/QUOTE]
Elevated crossfire into a concert?
It is very probably accurate.
[QUOTE=J!NX;52737607]I really doubt the active shooter is currently reading fp[/QUOTE]
You can never tell where an active shooter gets their information. Never assume.
Speaking of, do not share information of police tactics or positioning EVEN IF you find it publicly. This information is transmitted over unencrypted frequencies meaning it's "public" but could still be valuable to any active shooters. The more it's shared, the more likely it's found.
[media]https://twitter.com/Walldo/status/914734267153784832[/media]
[media]https://twitter.com/LVMPD/status/914742172829736960[/media]
[QUOTE=Mezzokoko;52737602]Ehh, if it's publicly available information it's fine, it's not like the suspects are reading this particular thread. Different story, when you are live at the scene though.[/QUOTE]
Some people in this thread are in las vegas
that was more of a general rule for those that have access to twitter and that are in the area
Also, this is the internet. Information proliferates. Someone could post something here, who then sends it to a friend who shares it with a friend who posts it on twitter with a hashtag that the shooters are following
Warning: If you go to the Reddit live thread, don't click the strawpoll link. It leads to a screamer.
It seems like someone's hacked the reddit live thread.
[QUOTE=27X;52737610]Elevated crossfire into a concert?
It is very probably accurate.[/QUOTE]
I can't find any sources for this, but supposedly the scanner stated there were 24 419s on site of the concert
419 is the code for 'dead on the scene'.
[QUOTE=27X;52737610]Elevated crossfire into a concert?
It is very probably accurate.[/QUOTE]
[URL="https://archive.is/uyci4"][media]https://twitter.com/CAFireScanner/status/914746079484268544[/media][/URL]
It's probably much worse than those scanner numbers already.
[QUOTE=J!NX;52737607]I really doubt the active shooter is currently reading fp[/QUOTE]
Probably not but it doesn't hurt to be cautious. Besides that, posting about police movements doesn't really contribute to helping the situation become any clearer
[QUOTE=WitheredGryphon;52737615]You can never tell where an active shooter gets their information. Never assume.
Speaking of, do not share information of police tactics or positioning EVEN IF you find it publicly. This information is transmitted over unencrypted frequencies meaning it's "public" but could still be valuable to any active shooters. The more it's shared, the more likely it's found.
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This brings to the question that always puzzle me, why are US police frequencies usually open, or that civilians can buy police scanners?
In alot of the countries, you can't do that/buy police scanners.
[QUOTE=SuperDany;52737619]Warning: If you go to the Reddit live thread, don't click the strawpoll link. It leads to a screamer.
It seems like someone's hacked the reddit live thread.[/QUOTE]
too late
fuck
Lets just.hope the numbers don't climb any higher, but I am sure it will as time goes on regardless, but we can still hope for no new victims at the very least.
[QUOTE=Ignhelper;52737628]This brings to the question that always puzzle me, why are US police frequencies usually open, or that civilians can buy police scanners?
In alot of the countries, you can't do that/buy police scanners.[/QUOTE]
In the event that coordination between multiple departments is needed it makes it easier to communicate between each of those departments. Encrypting each individual frequency would make it incredibly difficult to communicate otherwise in the event of an emergency like this.
[QUOTE=Ignhelper;52737628]This brings to the question that always puzzle me, why are US police frequencies usually open, or that civilians can buy police scanners?
In alot of the countries, you can't do that/buy police scanners.[/QUOTE]
For the very reason that BFV brought armored transports to get the wounded out. Not everyone who was in service or owns a weapon is a socio/psychopath.
[QUOTE=Wii60;52737626][media]https://twitter.com/h3h3productions/status/914747203997990912[/media]
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not to derail but i love how we have this whole adpocolypse debacle where those very brands don't want to be associated with anything "unfriendly", but will gladly crowbar their logo next to an act of terrorism/mass violence for literally half the airtime, because they know this shit is just going to rake in the views from people who want to know what's going on.
Also i find it unlikely that there was only one shooter, because it sounded like overlapping automatic fire, and i'm pretty sure the cops aren't going to engage someone like that with their glock set to auto.
[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;52737514]Considering the overlapping gunfire there's at least two people. I think we can rule out the cartels as they'd be biting the hand that feeds. Saying it's ISIS right now would be too soon, but I do think it'll be connected to religious nut jobs. They were well organised with automatic weapons, which means a lot of time and planning went into this.[/QUOTE]
"Saying it's religious nut jobs would be too soon, but I think it'll be religious nut jobs". :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=WitheredGryphon;52737635]In the event that coordination between multiple departments is needed it makes it easier to communicate between each of those departments. Encrypting each individual frequency would make it incredibly difficult to communicate otherwise in the event of an emergency like this.[/QUOTE]
Yea, but at the same time, you risk terrorists/criminals listening in and using it to divert from the police.
[QUOTE=WitheredGryphon;52737635]In the event that coordination between multiple departments is needed it makes it easier to communicate between each of those departments. Encrypting each individual frequency would make it incredibly difficult to communicate otherwise in the event of an emergency like this.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but... Normally you'd just standardise this stuff on a federal level.
Even if you don't want to work with only a single implementation (which is stupid because the re-development is crazily cost-ineffective), you could decently easily mandate a compatibility standard based on publicly available technology with slot-in encryption keys that can be rotated once in a while.
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[QUOTE=Trilby Harlow;52737639][...]
Also i find it unlikely that there was only one shooter, because it sounded like overlapping automatic fire, and i'm pretty sure the cops aren't going to engage someone like that with their glock set to auto.[/QUOTE]
The Vegas strip has lots of tall hotels, so it's very possible there were loud echoes.
[QUOTE=Trilby Harlow;52737639]not to derail but i love how we have this whole adpocolypse debacle where those very brands don't want to be associated with anything "unfriendly", but will gladly crowbar their logo next to an act of terrorism/mass violence for literally half the airtime, because they know this shit is just going to rake in the views from people who want to know what's going on.
Also i find it unlikely that there was only one shooter, because it sounded like overlapping automatic fire, and i'm pretty sure the cops aren't going to engage someone like that with their glock set to auto.[/QUOTE]
It's horribly silly to think any of those companies were present on-the-spot to okay their ads being shown during a mass shooting broadcast.
Airtime is reserved long in advance. If anyone's to blame, it would be the stations showing them.
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