Mass Shooting in Las Vegas - 58 Dead at Least 515 Injured, Suspect Killed - Sensationalist Headlines

[QUOTE=Tamschi;52737647]The Vegas strip has lots of tall hotels, so it's very possible there were loud echoes.[/QUOTE] them were some serious echos then. I'd say it's a toss up one way or the other, i just wouldn't have put my money on one guy before that's what the cops reported. But even then it wouldn't be the first time that kind of info turned out to be wrong. [QUOTE=Gbps;52737649]I think it's horribly silly to think any of those companies okay'd their ads being broadcasted during a mass shooting broadcast.[/QUOTE] No way, in fact i'll go so far as to say I'd put good money on there being teirs of or entirely separate contracts where you have to pay more to get your ads playing during such a time, because you know this sort of thing brings in [I]way[/I] more eyes to the channel than regular air, because everyone in the country rushes to the TV to watch trainwreck unfold. If companies didn't want their ads airing during something like they, they [I]wouldn't be airing[/I]. PR Firms are super fucking pedantic about this stuff, they absolutely thought all this shit out.

[QUOTE=Ignhelper;52737642]Yea, but at the same time, you risk terrorists/criminals listening in and using it to divert from the police.[/QUOTE] It's the price that some cities are willing to pay in exchange for the valuable tool of rapid communication between the different departments. It really is up to the city, since there's not really a mandate for it. Some see the risk being too high and decide to encrypt their frequencies instead. Honestly I haven't really researched whether this has made an impact at all but judging from the fact that it's still not mandated I'd assume it hasn't.

[QUOTE=Tamschi;52737647]The Vegas strip has lots of tall hotels, so it's very possible there were loud echoes.[/QUOTE] Shot echos don't overlap quite like what was heard in the videos, otherwise you'd be hearing "two" guns the whole time instead of intermittently .

News says they have semiconfirmed reports that death toll has gone up to 20. Good lord.

LVMPD are about to hold their media briefing here: [url]https://www.facebook.com/ktvu/videos/vb.20980557060/10155036686532061/?type=3&theater[/url]

They're mentioning Zebra units on the police scanner which refers to the LV Metropolitan SWAT team which is among the best trained and busiest regional teams in the country. [URL]http://www.tactical-life.com/military-and-police/swat-las-vegas-zebra-force/#zebra-tw-m15-hostage[/URL] FBI SWAT is also on the scene

Just saw the video on liveleak it's worrying that so many people dropped to the ground that were in a large group. You get out of the mass target area asap if that means hands n knees crawling so be it!

[QUOTE=Waffle cones.;52737668][video]https://twitter.com/CarlBunce/status/914757644077867008[/video][/QUOTE] I really hope security ID'd whoever they escorted out.

[QUOTE=Boss;52737674]Just saw the video on liveleak it's worrying that so many people dropped to the ground that were in a large group. You get out of the mass target area asap if that means hands n knees crawling so be it![/QUOTE] Easy for you to say.

[QUOTE=Trilby Harlow;52737639]not to derail but i love how we have this whole adpocolypse debacle where those very brands don't want to be associated with anything "unfriendly", but will gladly crowbar their logo next to an act of terrorism/mass violence for literally half the airtime, because they know this shit is just going to rake in the views from people who want to know what's going on.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't be so quick to blame the brands themselves. Usually companies book commercial airtime in advance, and they agree with the networks to slot them in at specific times. The network is then paid per-airing. I dunno how this works with live TV though, but I'd assume it's similar but more flexible, meaning CNN is just pushing as much of that booked airtime as possible to get as much revenue as quickly as possible.

[QUOTE=Trilby Harlow;52737639]not to derail but i love how we have this whole adpocolypse debacle where those very brands don't want to be associated with anything "unfriendly", but will gladly crowbar their logo next to an act of terrorism/mass violence for literally half the airtime, because they know this shit is just going to rake in the views from people who want to know what's going on.[/QUOTE] As Gbps mentioned, this stuff is usually scheduled in advance, and networks are contractually bound to display the advert despite whatever is going on in their regular schedule (Unless whoever owns the spot cancels it). They don't get paid per views like in Youtube, they get paid for the spot.

TV news keeps showing footage from a Snapchat account named "Big Booty Judy". Twitter seems to have noticed, as well. I know this is a serious situation, but that name caught me off guard.

[QUOTE=Alec W;52737676]I really hope security ID'd whoever they escorted out.[/QUOTE] There's millions of CCTV cameras plastered all over The Strip, shouldn't be hard to get a clear picture even if the guards didn't ask for her ID.

[QUOTE=Alec W;52737676]I really hope security ID'd whoever they escorted out.[/QUOTE] They'll be in deep shit if they didn't

[QUOTE=Boss;52737674]Just saw the video on liveleak it's worrying that so many people dropped to the ground that were in a large group. You get out of the mass target area asap if that means hands n knees crawling so be it![/QUOTE] FYI don't read the comments on liveleak, they're nothing but shitposting.

[QUOTE=Boss;52737674]Just saw the video on liveleak it's worrying that so many people dropped to the ground that were in a large group. You get out of the mass target area asap if that means hands n knees crawling so be it![/QUOTE] They were normal, everyday people attending a concert. I'm sure you'll forgive them for not being versed on how to properly escape a mass target area in a shooting event. Please take a moment to also consider how tasteless it is to be critiquing the tactical decisionmaking of the dead and wounded at a time like this. Not the fuckin' time for Airsoft Warrior advice.

[QUOTE=Chaotic Lord;52737687]TV news keeps showing footage from a Snapchat account named "Big Booty Judy". Twitter seems to have noticed, as well. I know this is a serious situation, but that name caught me off guard.[/QUOTE] And in the snapchats, you could see people standing around and filming. I know there's the urge, but fuck man this isn't like that bomb in the London metro that failed(and folks getting evacuated), its a fucking active shooter.

[QUOTE=Alec W;52737676]I really hope security ID'd whoever they escorted out.[/QUOTE] Try not to witch-hunt until anything is confirmed. This was the name found on the ID. Someone pulled it up. Not sure if its actually the person, but if its a woman. Well it might be close. [B]NO[/B]

[QUOTE=Sir_takeslot;52737697]Try not to witch-hunt until anything is confirmed. This was the name found on the ID. Someone pulled it up. Not sure if its actually the person, but if its a woman. Well it might be close. EXPUNGED[/QUOTE] [img]https://fi.somethingawful.com/images/smilies/emot-siren.gif[/img] [B]DO NOT POST THIS SORT OF THING. DO NOT POST THIS SORT OF THING. [/B] [img]https://fi.somethingawful.com/images/smilies/emot-siren.gif[/img]

[QUOTE=Sir_takeslot;52737697]Try not to witch-hunt until anything is confirmed. This was the name found on the ID. Someone pulled it up. Not sure if its actually the person, but if its a woman. Well it might be close. [/QUOTE] "Try not to witch hunt" and then you post that??

[b]-NO-[/b]

[QUOTE=Sir_takeslot;52737697]Try not to witch-hunt until anything is confirmed. This was the name found on the ID. Someone pulled it up. Not sure if its actually the person, but if its a woman. Well it might be close. [/QUOTE] Do you not see your bloody irony

[QUOTE=kariko;52737699]"Try not to witch hunt" and then you post that??[/QUOTE] Because it was the name they pulled off the credit card and ID they found in the room with the shooter.

[QUOTE=Sir_takeslot;52737697]Try not to witch-hunt until anything is confirmed. This was the name found on the ID. Someone pulled it up. Not sure if its actually the person, but if its a woman. Well it might be close. [t]-snip-[/QUOTE] Please don't share unconfirmed information. In nearly every event like this, some innocent bystander gets roped into the frenzied aftermath and has their life destroyed because of internet detectives chomping at bad information and misunderstandings. I should think that there were enough victims tonight without all that.

[QUOTE=Sir_takeslot;52737703]Because it was the name they pulled off the credit card and ID they found in the room with the shooter.[/QUOTE] You're doing exactly what you're telling people not to do.

[QUOTE=Ignhelper;52737696]And in the snapchats, you could see people standing around and filming. [/QUOTE] It's a concert, a large portion of the audience was probably already filming as the shots started.

Probably best if you guys don't quote the pic.

You should remove that, even if so, that woman could be a same-name and this could cause issues.

cut that photo from the quotes too jesus christ

Waiting to hear the briefing, should start now.