"Icy Hell" - New Hampshire Can Reach -100°F tonight via Wind Chill. - Sensationalist Headlines

Oh man, I got this hammered in pretty early on, windchill is fucking nasty. I'd like to think I've handled my first Canadian winter pretty well, all things considered and I've got some decent kit, but when the wind goes up [I]and[/I]it's cold it's like my face is being sliced off and that's at about -20 degrees celsius. -73 degrees celsius? Fuck everything about that. :thisthread:

i wanna go out in that, fully dressed, just to see how it feels i dont even know what it could be like other than awful

[QUOTE=da space core;53030542]no. allow me to explain. when the air is cold but still, body heat radiates off your body and heats up the air around it. this creates a sort of "bubble" of warmth around you, air is a really good insulator (thats why the warmest jackets tend to be poofy, they have a lot of air trapped inside). The big point is that this slows heat loss. but, if the air is moving, in this case due to wind, whatever bubble of warmth you form gets stripped away immediately, and faster if the wind is fast. this means that there is nothing slowing heat loss from your body, and your core temperature plummets faster, as if it would be if the air itself were still but colder (hence wind shear measurements). so yes, technically air temperature is the same with wind shear, but the rate at which your body looses heat is not.[/QUOTE] So say it's -20c and you've got an extra -10c wind chill bringing it down to -30c, would you lose heat at the same rate as if you were stood in -30c with no wind?

I work at a ski area in Maine, windchill was -62 when we loaded up to open the parks at 7AM. You pull your mask up to cover your nose and you get foggy goggles and an icey frozen mask, pull it down and you get frostbite. not my best day at work to say the least.

Haha, fucking went out to refill my car's tires, because the cold is fucking with them (plus one of them is damaged) and any non-digital pumps are fucking frozen over and therefore don't show you the pressure in the tires. Fuck.

On the bright side, atleast the New Hampshire Glacier will provide water for years to come.

[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;53030690]Invest in thermal underwear, you'll thank me later.[/QUOTE] Oh trust me i have a few pairs of long johns, i just like the big floofy pjs Worst it got for us last night was about -28, pissed outside and watched the steam rise. Supposedly gonna be 40 degrees in a few days now?!?!?! New HAMPSHIREEEEE

[QUOTE=Burre.png;53032407]Surprised it didn't freeze mid-stream.[/QUOTE] I betcha if i was up in the mountains my piss would freeze in my wiener

[QUOTE=Rolond Returns;53031193]So say it's -20c and you've got an extra -10c wind chill bringing it down to -30c, would you lose heat at the same rate as if you were stood in -30c with no wind?[/QUOTE] Yes

It reached -3°F here last night, in Southern and least-extreme weather NH. Very unusually cold, even for this time of year. I've lived here long enough to see negative temps before, but usually they don't stick around for fucking 2-3 weeks at a time! In July I went up on Mt.Washington to watch the CTTC Hillclimb. Drove up the day before to the peak (was a 80F day at the base), was met with near freezing rain and like 50F air temp, along with some good ol wind. The day of the event, I was only halfway up at the popular spectator spot called Signal Corps. Again, about 40-50°F air temp, sustained 35mph winds, with some pain in the ass 75-80mph gusts! But I guess the up close views of the cars was worth it, right?!

[QUOTE=The golden;53029146]Wind chill measurements are bogus bullshit unfortunately but that's still pretty damn cold.[/QUOTE] Well shit, I guess if moving air doesn't accelerate heat transfer, all these interior fans I have for the summer were sold to me by a snake oil salesman, and the radiator fan on my car is just a useless piece of junk.

[QUOTE=Rolond Returns;53031193]So say it's -20c and you've got an extra -10c wind chill bringing it down to -30c, would you lose heat at the same rate as if you were stood in -30c with no wind?[/QUOTE] If you were bare-ass naked, yes. If you were wearing [I]anything[/I] with [I]any[/I] insulating properties, no. The calculation for wind chill is based on the thermal loss of human skin, so anywhere on your body that is insulated will lose heat more slowly and consequently be less affected by the wind. The extreme is if you have near-perfect insulation you will experience nearly no wind chill, such as if you're insulated by a structure that blocks the wind entirely. And that's the entirety of what The Golden has been getting at. Wind chill has a measurable, definable effect, but just because the wind chill is -100F does not mean it will 'actually' feel like -100F for any appropriately dressed human being, and you can mitigate wind chill with multiple layers of insulating clothing and in particular covering your face. It will feel colder than it would otherwise, and having a standard for wind chill allows for that subjective difference to be easily communicated, but it is not at all identical to it actually being the temperature indicated.

in other winter news [URL="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/04/us/air-travel-winter-storm.html?ribbon-ad-idx=3&rref=us"]https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/04/us/air-travel-winter-storm.html?ribbon-ad-idx=3&rref=us[/URL] [QUOTE]Sophia Smith thought she had beaten the “bomb cyclone.” But minutes after boarding a New York-bound plane on Thursday morning, a text message from the airline arrived. Her flight was canceled. Ms. Smith’s trip home from Orlando, Fla., was among more than 4,000 flights scrapped on Thursday as a winter storm pounded the Northeast and sent problems rippling out to airports across the country. FlightAware, a flight data website, said 2,000 more flights had been delayed and that nearly 900 others set for Friday were already canceled. Some airlines offered refunds and notified travelers of the cancellations hours in advance, drawing praise from stranded passengers. But many other travelers found themselves marooned in airports far from home and frustrated by limited options for rebooking. In Ms. Smith’s case, she said her airline offered two unpalatable choices: take an eight-hour trip on Friday with a layover in out-of-the-way Dallas, or wait and fly direct to New York on Sunday. She chose the latter. “I was happy to kind of rearrange my travel plans in light of the weather,” said Ms. Smith, a Brooklyn resident who had hoped to return to her theater work on Thursday. But she said the airline’s options were “ridiculous.”Across the country, travelers shared similar stories, in some cases venting on Twitter.[/QUOTE] [URL="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/04/us/winter-snow-bomb-cyclone.html?ribbon-ad-idx=3&rref=us"]https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/04/us/winter-snow-bomb-cyclone.html?ribbon-ad-idx=3&rref=us[/URL] [QUOTE]n Boston, one of the highest tides on record flooded a subway station near the New England Aquarium. Pipes cracked from New Jersey to North Carolina. Even Florida’s iguanas found themselves stunned by the cold. From the Spanish moss-canopied sidewalks of Savannah, Ga., to icy villages in coastal Maine, emergency officials reckoned with the rages, whims and remains of a storm that shut down schools for more than a million children, flooded roadways, filled homeless shelters and forced the cancellations of thousands of flights. Yet the storm, notable for a steep drop in atmospheric pressure that prompted some forecasters to describe it as a “bomb cyclone,” was but one act in a prolonged run of misery that had already enveloped millions of people in a wintry torment of Arctic air and snow-blown streets.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=catbarf;53036670]If you were bare-ass naked, yes. If you were wearing [I]anything[/I] with [I]any[/I] insulating properties, no. The calculation for wind chill is based on the thermal loss of human skin, so anywhere on your body that is insulated will lose heat more slowly and consequently be less affected by the wind. The extreme is if you have near-perfect insulation you will experience nearly no wind chill, such as if you're insulated by a structure that blocks the wind entirely. And that's the entirety of what The Golden has been getting at. Wind chill has a measurable, definable effect, but just because the wind chill is -100F does not mean it will 'actually' feel like -100F for any appropriately dressed human being, and you can mitigate wind chill with multiple layers of insulating clothing and in particular covering your face. It will feel colder than it would otherwise, and having a standard for wind chill allows for that subjective difference to be easily communicated, but it is not at all identical to it actually being the temperature indicated.[/QUOTE] As far as I can tell, windchill is calculated assuming only your face is exposed. But more importantly, wind chill has little to do with telling people how cold it "feels", and everything to do with the fact that factors that influence how quickly your body exchanges heat with the environment are just as, if not more, important as what the actual temperature is.

[QUOTE=Mingebox;53037021]As far as I can tell, windchill is calculated assuming only your face is exposed. But more importantly, wind chill has little to do with telling people how cold it "feels", and everything to do with the fact that factors that influence how quickly your body exchanges heat with the environment are just as, if not more, important as what the actual temperature is.[/QUOTE] It doesn't directly say how it 'feels', but it's a good indicator. People don't know about how fast hypothermia sets in, they care about comfort. So if people take windchill as 'how it really feels' then that's a good thing, they'll be safer.

[QUOTE=Arc Nova;53030858]can confirm, this is how I survive every canadian winter [editline]6th January 2018[/editline] you have to put your pj pants on and tuck them into your socks, that way they won't ride up when you put your other pants on once you have both layers on you can just untuck the PJs from your socks if you feel like it. doubling up on socks is a good tip too[/QUOTE] holy shit you guys have this down to a science

Probably not relevant anymore but this was taken in Vermont from my front porch last weekend :v: [t]https://i.imgur.com/zWeCkyb.jpg[/t]