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[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;52583352]in what other places are antifa worse than nazis[/QUOTE] Excuse the shitty title on the video that isn't the actual name of the documentary, but this is how it is in most of central europe and scandinavia, roughly the same percentages between nazis and antifa too(10%-90%) [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ55KyNrO6A[/media] [QUOTE=Lambeth;52583339]What do you mean? Does Germany think Nazis are cool again???[/QUOTE] Nice zinger brah but that's flagdog being shit, I'm not german.

[QUOTE=Crimor;52583675]Excuse the shitty title on the video that isn't the actual name of the documentary, but this is how it is in most of central europe and scandinavia, roughly the same percentages between nazis and antifa too(10%-90%) [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ55KyNrO6A[/media][/QUOTE] Alright, so Sweden requires different strategies. America isn't Sweden and America's antifa isn't Swedish. You've proven that antifa is awful in some parts of the world, great. The US's currently problem with antifa isn't the same as Sweden's.

[QUOTE=Simplemac3;52583299]It's because they aren't nazis, but all the same there [I]are[/I] occasionally thugs that use antifa or blm as an excuse to act out aggressively because they feel frustrated and disenfranchised, in a similar vein to some of these nazis. The fact that people go "well they don't speak for the entire organization" for those cases and yet go "let's literally kill every nazi in retribution" here just seems hypocritical. I can't abide it, even as someone who wants to see these guys shut down hard. Yes I understand that violence towards minorities is a key part of most white supremacist rhetoric, but I highly doubt that literally every person involved wants to personally lynch a minority. People like fucking [i]Jontron[/i] can hold white supremacist beliefs, not because they actively hate others but because they're paranoid as shit and scared of shadows. They mistakenly think their future is in jeopardy, so they lash out. They should be held accountable and vigorously blocked from spreading their beliefs if possible, but my god I cannot [I]stand[/I] this dehumanizing we-must-wipe-out-this-subhuman-cancer shit Archangel always seems to segue into these days.[/QUOTE] You need to understand that the misguided Jontron-like fools aren't even involved in marches like Unite the Right. Why would they be? Unite The Right is for 1488ers, KKK, and other such scum. Non violence isn't a part of their ethos.

Not so sure about that when you have people running around cracking heads open with bike locks.

[QUOTE=CommanderPT;52583536]True, communists kill all races equally instead.[/QUOTE] This is just silly. A core tenant of nazism is the belief in the superiority of the white race and that's it. Communism has surely cost millions of lives but not as a core tenant of the ideology by as a result of leaders that are despots. I don't think communism works but the comparison is non existent

I think a huge issue of people arguing that the far-left and the far-right are the same in terms of violence and etc are mostly using non-American examples of the left being violent and etc. Here's a thing about America, Far-right Extremists, they've always been worse. This isn't some opinion, its a fact. If you look into the history of the KKK, other far-right groups. They've probably caused far more deaths in comparison to other left groups. The KKK alone have lynched over 3,000 Black men alone in the past 86 years. That really isn't that long ago history wise... The only reason why the left in the US seems to be as violent as the right is mostly because of mass media and overcovering of these stories. If you want examples of how absolutely horrid the Far-right has been in the US. Look at this, there was a time, people would literally send post-cards of black men who were lynched. [URL="http://withoutsanctuary.org/"]http://withoutsanctuary.org/[/URL] [IMG]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/Lynching_of_Jesse_Washington%2C_1916_%28cropped%29.jpg[/IMG] [QUOTE]He was dragged out of the court by observers and lynched in front of Waco's city hall. Over 10,000 spectators, including city officials and police, gathered to watch the attack. There was a celebratory atmosphere at the event, and many children attended during their lunch hour. Members of the mob castrated Washington, cut off his fingers, and hung him over a bonfire. He was repeatedly lowered and raised over the fire for about two hours. After the fire was extinguished, his charred torso was dragged through the town and parts of his body were sold as souvenirs. A professional photographer took pictures as the event unfolded, providing rare imagery of a lynching in progress. The pictures were printed and sold as postcards in Waco.[/QUOTE] Im not excusing the violence caused by left groups in the US. But you need to understand the context of why a fuck ton of Americans are pissed as fuck that we have this dark period of our history, and are pissed that cunts like the Neo-Nazis want this type of dark period again. Its a horrid, morbid romanticizing that has to fucking stop... Honestly i dont want to bring up the left/right political spectrum with this type of shit. Since its fucking racism which is fucking stupid in general, and pretty much everyone can agree its brain dead retarded. But you need to realize why Americans are getting tired of the fucking Far-right/alt-right's bullshit and idiotic romanticizing of a terrible period of American history.

[QUOTE=archangel125;52583689]You need to understand that the misguided Jontron-like fools aren't even involved in marches like Unite the Right. Why would they be? Unite The Right is for 1488ers, KKK, and other such scum. Non violence isn't a part of their ethos.[/QUOTE]You're probably mostly right but there were a lot of college aged men in that march, I guess I just find it hard to believe that literally every single one was a knowing, violent diehard. There has to have been people who were just suckers in there. I'm just generally uncomfortable with talking about certain groups of humans like they're subhumans or some kind of [i]demons, too.[/i] I know that's what nazis do, but we're not nazis. That kind of rhetoric can lead to some bad places.

This isn't just about Nazi Germany, and it isn't just about Soviet Russia. These examples are useless if you can't properly relate them to the history of America How open is the US to the dangers of a communist regime? It's the country that championed the red scare and McCarthyism. It did everything in its power to position itself as the arch-rival of communism for over half a fucking century. Even today, they couldn't [URL="https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/california/articles/2017-05-17/california-lawmaker-pulls-bill-on-cold-war-era-communist-ban"]lift a Cold War-era ban on communists holding government jobs[/URL] in California, of all places. A place so left-leaning, it has even earned the nickname Commiefornia, and this is how accepting of communists they are. And then you look at the history of white supremacy in the US. The genocide of natives. Slavery, and to this day, cultures built around celebrating the movement that fought for it. Citizenship limited to whites. The Klux Klux Klan. Lynchings. Jim Crow laws. Opposition to the Civil Rights act. Bans on miscegenation. A racially charged war on drugs, and so much more. If you legitimately think that both of these are equally dangerous to the US, you're fucking delusional.

[QUOTE=Simplemac3;52583965]You're probably mostly right but there were a lot of college aged men in that march, I guess I just find it hard to believe that literally every single one was a knowing, violent diehard. There have to have been people who were just suckers in there. I'm just generally uncomfortable with talking about certain groups of humans like they're subhumans or some kind of [i]demons, too.[/i] I know that's what nazis do, but we're not nazis. That kind of rhetoric can lead to some bad places.[/QUOTE] They were either knowing, violent diehards, or are purposely ignorant and incredibly stupid. Either is dangerous.

[QUOTE=Pascall;52583977]They were either knowing, violent diehards, or are purposely ignorant and incredibly stupid. Either is dangerous.[/QUOTE] Not saying they aren't, not saying you shouldn't shit on them or block them from spreading rhetoric in every manner allowed. It's only when people start talking like they aren't humans anymore that I think we start entering some dicey territory. The worst criminal out there was still a human, at the end of the day.

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;52583968]This isn't just about Nazi Germany, and it isn't just about Soviet Russia. These examples are useless if you can't properly relate them to the history of America How open is the US to the dangers of a communist regime? It's the country that championed the red scare and McCarthyism. It did everything in its power to position itself as the arch-rival of communism for over half a fucking century. Even today, they couldn't [URL="https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/california/articles/2017-05-17/california-lawmaker-pulls-bill-on-cold-war-era-communist-ban"]lift a Cold War-era ban on communists holding government jobs[/URL] in California, of all places. A place so left-leaning, it has even earned the nickname Commiefornia, and this is how accepting of communists they are. And then you look at the history of white supremacy in the US. The genocide of natives. Slavery, and to this day, cultures built around celebrating the movement that fought for it. Citizenship limited to whites. The Klux Klux Klan. Lynchings. Jim Crow laws. Opposition to the Civil Rights act. Bans on miscegenation. A racially charged war on drugs, and so much more. If you legitimately think that both of these are equally dangerous to the US, you're fucking delusional.[/QUOTE] it really rattles my funny bones to the core when people screech "reeeee antifa are destroying this country, just as bad as nazis keep them out!!!" when antifa and the far left have exactly zero say in American politics on the other hand, the far right controls all layers of the American government, and apparently Trump-condoned Nazism is "not an immediate threat :)" America is in no danger of becoming a leftist hellhole any time soon but there is a chance, no matter how small, that the extreme right take control. the seeds are already being sown. remember, Trump has gone on record as saying that he would sell his soul to the devil to get one over on his enemies. if he thought empowering Nazis would give him an edge over ~the left~ he'd do it in a heartbeat, if he hasn't already done that.

[QUOTE=MissingNoGuy;52582839]I've had a neo-Nazi tell me it's satire and it's just the left not taking a joke, but damn they couldn't be any more fucking wrong because it's absolutely not satire.[/QUOTE] Did-... Did a Neo-Nazi seriously "It's just a prank, bro!" The Daily Stormer?

[QUOTE=archangel125;52582416]Let's understand each other. Nazis, by their very ideology, are the enemies of every freedom western nations have ever conferred upon their citizens. They are enemies of the freedoms brave men and women have fought, bled and died for. They are dangerous to civilized society and to the human species as a whole. They're undesirables, but we, being civilized, egalitarian-minded folks, have tolerated their existence so long as they weren't a threat. That changed in Charlottesville. They went out to that protest and violated their agreement with Police with the express intent of doing violence. They went with weapons, body armor, riot shields and helmets. They went, and as soon as they felt they had an excuse, they drove a car into a crowd of unarmed people, murdered a woman and tried to lynch a man. That was a turning point. That was when anyone marching with them who still had two brain cells to rub together went "Wait, shit, this is going too far, I'm out." The rest, though... the ones who still stand with them, the ones planning more 'marches', they're terrorists. [b]Sub-human vermin[/b], due no more consideration than ISIS members. In a way, they're more dangerous by far than ISIS, because that terrorist group has to work hard to commit attacks in Western countries. These scumbags are here, right now. Planning their next attack. So long as they remain non-violent, so should everyone else. But in the interests of protecting the freedoms you hold dear and the way of life you've grown to love, I say all we need is one good excuse. One more instance of them trying to hurt innocent people. And then it's time to load your buckshot and call Elmer Fudd, because it's fucking Nazi season.[/QUOTE] Pause. Calling other human beings "sub-human" is how ideologies such as Nazism begun. Instead of killing droves of Nazis I'd say the more humane thing to do is round them up into camps and forcibly re-educated and re-integrated into multicultural communities.

[QUOTE=Desaster56;52584073]Pause. Calling other human beings "sub-human" is how ideologies such as Nazism begun. Instead of killing droves of Nazis I'd say the more humane thing to do is round them up into camps and forcibly re-educated and re-integrated into multicultural communities.[/QUOTE] Idk...if you believe that the rest of humanity is sub-human, i would consider you to not be very much "Human"...

[QUOTE=Uber22;52584104]Idk...if you believe that the rest of humanity is sub-human, i would consider you to not be very much "Human"...[/QUOTE] And then the homophobes are not "Human"? And then the muslim extremists? Then the communists? Mildly racists? The Jews, Blacks, Slavs, Irish? Its a slippery slope man, we are all biologically human and I just see these people as being horribly misguided, they don't deserve death, otherwise we stoop to their level.

I don't think calling them subhuman helps either, but you can't seriously think that most nazis will just be "re-educated". They full well know what they believe. Thats the problem

I posted [URL="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/15/us/politics/trump-alt-left-fact-check.html"]this[/URL] well sourced NYT article about far-left vs far-right activist groups in another thread around all of this recent bullshit, but seeing as how some people are [I]still[/I] trying to equivocate the antifa shitlords with [I]literal[/I] [I][U]fucking[/U][/I] NAZIS, I imagine it bears reposting. [QUOTE] White nationalists; militia movements; anti-Muslim attackers; I.R.S. building and abortion clinic bombers; and other right-wing groups were responsible for [B]12 times as many fatalities and 36 times as many injuries[/B] as communists; socialists; animal rights and environmental activists; anti-white- and Black Lives Matter-inspired attackers; and other left-wing groups. Of the nearly 1,500 individuals in a University of Maryland study of radicalization from 1948 to 2013, [B]43 percent espoused far-right ideologies, compared to 21 percent for the far left.[/B] Far-right individuals were more likely to commit violence against people, while those on the far left were more likely to commit property damage.[/QUOTE] As Tamschi said: the far left (mostly just anarchist ingrates) destroys property because "fuck the system", but far right kills or wounds [B]people[/B]

[QUOTE=CommanderPT;52583257]So why aren't people doing anything about Antifa then? They are hardly peaceful protestors either and yet they are allowed to have their websites hosted and reachable via google. And as a preemptive measure since people love to assume things, no, I do not support the Nazis.[/QUOTE] Because Antifa is an organization that was formed in the first place as a reaction to Nazis and fascists causing trouble, and they have a tolerant enough ethos that doesn't revolve around exterminating entire groups to people because of their race/skin color, their sexuality, their religion, etc. They just want hate groups (Nazis and fascists) to fuck off and stop bothering everybody, which makes complete sense. This shouldn't be hard to understand.

[QUOTE=Desaster56;52584156]And then the homophobes are not "Human"? And then the muslim extremists? Then the communists? Mildly racists? The Jews, Blacks, Slavs, Irish? Its a slippery slope man, we are all biologically human and I just see these people as being horribly misguided, they don't deserve death, otherwise we stoop to their level.[/QUOTE] Did i say we had to kill them? No. Did i say we had to slaughter them? No. Did i say we had to systematically create a massive complex system to wipe out their race in the millions? No. It isn't some fucking Slippery slope or whatever. A Nazi is a fucking Nazi, nothing is worse than a fucking nazi. If you believe in mass genocide of other individuals of the human race, i wouldn't consider you a "Human being." Homophobe is different because thats just being an idiot. Being a nazi who believes in the slaughtering of billions is basically fucking demented and FUBAR.

[QUOTE=Vodkavia;52582942]Let's be real here though, it's not because of some keyboard warriors on FP or some shit. It's because politicians both here in the US and across the pond have been pandering to racists for so long that it took on a life of its own. There's only so much time after you spend years fear mongering about Muslims, Mexicans and Migrants before you have a writhing racist malignant mass on your hip.[/QUOTE] it's mildly concerning when somebody sees the increasing violence of nazis as a good thing, for the sole reason that it gives him a reason to "erase them" all he's doing is putting a thin veneer of civility onto his statements. he's pretty much saying "i want to kill nazis but i don't want to look bad for doing it". he calls them subhuman vermin, degenerates, basically adopts in whole the language of the right and even advocates its methods.

[QUOTE=Crimor;52583326]In the US maybe, not so much in other places.[/QUOTE] [IMG]https://i1.wp.com/holocaustpreap.weebly.com/uploads/1/5/1/7/15176350/2884270_orig.jpeg[/IMG] Surely Antifa is worse... :v:

Is "but communism" the new "but Hillary"?

[QUOTE=Uber22;52584252][IMG]https://i1.wp.com/holocaustpreap.weebly.com/uploads/1/5/1/7/15176350/2884270_orig.jpeg[/IMG] Surely Antifa is worse... :v:[/QUOTE] Shit lads I didn't realize we were dealing with the fucking WW2 era nazi war machine and not some pathetic white trash gangbangers this has already been gone over, european antifa are legitimately terrible about property damage among other things but the nazis still have them on violence directed at persons (which is worse, let's be honest)

[QUOTE=Simplemac3;52584290]Shit lads I didn't realize we were dealing with the fucking WW2 era nazi war machine and not some pathetic white trash gangbangers[/QUOTE] the fear is that if it does get to ww2 era nazis then it'll be too late to actually do anything [b]again[/b] last time the nazi ideal was left to fester we got ww2

[QUOTE=Electrocuter;52584274]Is "but communism" the new "but Hillary"?[/QUOTE] "But Communism/Socialism" has been around longer than "But Hillary" if memory serves. I remember seeing such comparisons on message boards waaay back when. [editline]17th August 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Simplemac3;52584290]Shit lads I didn't realize we were dealing with the fucking WW2 era nazi war machine and not some pathetic white trash gangbangers[/QUOTE] A reminder that the Nazi party started as a rag-tag group of pathetic white trash.

[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;52584306]Well, that's their end goal[/QUOTE] Yeah, but we live in a world where nazi is completely synonymous with evil. Even Trump got slammed for refusing to outright condemn them. I just don't see nazis who aren't even trying to pretend they aren't nazis getting anywhere, realistically. They'd have to be more subversive than this. Paint themselves as something different.

[QUOTE=Zero-Point;52584323]"But Communism/Socialism" has been around longer than "But Hillary" if memory serves. I remember seeing such comparisons on message boards waaay back when. [editline]17th August 2017[/editline] [B]A reminder that the Nazi party started as a rag-tag group of pathetic white trash.[/B][/QUOTE] Reminder that people continued to write them off even as they rose to power Reminder that people said "maybe they're not that bad, give them a chance!" Reminder that they also said "they're just a bit mad at the world, they don't really hate jews" Reminder that people also said "well look at the communists, they're just as bad, if not worse!" history *is* doomed to repeat itself if a lot of people don't take their head out of their ass and take note of the signs. wake up, as you will.

The spanish daily stormer is pretty fucking stupid. [media]https://twitter.com/Trolasodemierda/status/897088196412100608[/media] "Victory in charlottesville" This weekend there has been an important meeting of nationalists in Charlottesville. Included in the organizers and promoters is the english version of this newspaper. The even has finished lawful and pacific demonstrations. For example an emotive march with torches on friday night, emulating golden dawn. "On another note, a car hit a group of anti-demonstrators leaving a dead person and some injured. the suspect is called James Alex Fields, he could be jewish, his mother is called Samantha Bloom and bloom is an almost exclusively jewish second name" [media]https://twitter.com/Trolasodemierda/status/897087366413901824[/media] United Kingdom: "Nigger cries because she thinks "people of color" is an offensive expression" "For a nigger being called nigger by the white people is worse than the tribal wars and canivalism in africa" [media]https://twitter.com/Trolasodemierda/status/897111104513560577[/media] "Hitlermania is growing. Everyday more and more europeans want to stop taking the drug given to them by the NWO and stop being slaves to assume their own destiny free from jewish oppresion"

This entire thread is full of dumb. Daily Stormer isn't banned from the clearnet. That would be illegal. They can go to Namecheap, or Gandi, or any of the 5 million other domain registrars and setup another website. They simply chose to set up a Tor website, for whatever reason.

I see this has turned into a partial debate about which ideology is worse? Communists vs Nazis. Yes, antifa are made up largely by those who to an extent believe in communism. In any case, both are bad so don't kid yourself. [IMG_THUMB]http://www.dailywire.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_full/public/uploads/2017/07/hammer_sickle_soviet_communist_flag.jpg?itok=G_u-yMps[/IMG_THUMB] The flag of peace, love, and tolerance apparently? I think not.