Daily Stormer rejected by GoDaddy, Google and now Cloudflare. Retreats to Dark Web - Sensationalist Headlines

[QUOTE=J!NX;52590725]I don't think they do, but I really doubt they would have done anything about this if it wasn't for the big news about everyone blocking them they have a number of feel good replies to comments replying to that post but at the end of the day, there is tons of pretty horrible shit on tor isn't there, way worse than DS [editline]19th August 2017[/editline] if they silently shut them down instead of trying to milk the current media trend they'd be better off[/QUOTE] Yes of course there is, but the problem is that they wouldn't really be able to do abything about it since it would defeat the purpose of their service. All the tor people can do is to say "fuck that shit." [editline]19th August 2017[/editline] I mean, I could be wrong in thinking that people generally don't agree with dead children and rape porn unless they say otherwise. Since I haven't heard anything from the tor people I'm just going to assume they disagree with it

The issue of protecting rights of people who want to take peoples rights.

[QUOTE=gokiyono;52590757]Yes of course there is, but the problem is that they wouldn't really be able to do abything about it since it would defeat the purpose of their service. All the tor people can do is to say "fuck that shit." [editline]19th August 2017[/editline] I mean, I could be wrong in thinking that people generally don't agree with dead children and rape porn unless they say otherwise. Since I haven't heard anything from the tor people I'm just going to assume they disagree with it[/QUOTE] they mentioned in one of their tweets "we hate it when they use our service for vile things"

Just like that their movement was snuffed out in a period of lese than 24 hours. Awesome that it happened to Neo-Nazi's but uncomforting that its possible to do this to any movement.

[QUOTE=Shirt.;52592823]Just like that their movement was snuffed out in a period of lese than 24 hours. Awesome that it happened to Neo-Nazi's but uncomforting that its possible to do this to any movement.[/QUOTE] It helps that Nazis are universally reviled by everyone except other Nazis and people naive enough to defend said Nazis. This isn't really a problem, if it was we'd have seen Cloudflare, GoDaddy, Google, etc. strike out against, oh, I dunno, most of the alt-right movements that have political opinions opposing theirs? White supremacists (before they decided to incite violence)? etc. They are shutting down specific communities and services for individuals because catching them all is nigh impossible.

[QUOTE=Shirt.;52592823]Just like that their movement was snuffed out in a period of lese than 24 hours. Awesome that it happened to Neo-Nazi's but uncomforting that its possible to do this to any movement.[/QUOTE] It's not possible to do this to [I]any[/I] movement. It worked here because the movement in question is reviled by so many other people for very obvious reasons that are rather difficult to disagree on.

I really liked the way somebody said "You're not wrong, but is this really the hill you wanna die on" It's like killing a terrorist to stop him from his actions. Okay yea, you can't just do that to 99.99% of people but every rational human knows it was the right call.

[QUOTE=gokiyono;52590757]Yes of course there is, but the problem is that they wouldn't really be able to do anything about it since it would defeat the purpose of their service. All the tor people can do is to say "fuck that shit." [editline]19th August 2017[/editline] I mean, I could be wrong in thinking that people generally don't agree with dead children and rape porn unless they say otherwise. Since I haven't heard anything from the tor people I'm just going to assume they disagree with it[/QUOTE] What does them supporting anything have to do with what I said? It's not a matter of what they support It's a matter of them stopping at Daily Stormer, or even starting at it to begin with. It tells me that this is [I]only [/I]a PR move to have blocked Daily Stormer. "We're here to defend the human rights these racists oppose.", regardless of how much they hate the service being used for ill, it still gets used for that more than they can defend against, right? [editline]21st August 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Shirt.;52592823]Just like that their movement was snuffed out in a period of lese than 24 hours. Awesome that it happened to Neo-Nazi's but uncomforting that its possible to do this to any movement.[/QUOTE] To be fair, I mean, Neo-Nazi's are a self defeating group

[QUOTE=proboardslol;52582164]I'd rather have a handful of entrenched radicals than an army of neonazis whose beliefs have been validated by what at this point is the [B][B]worst[/B] [I]period[/I] [B]president[/B] [I]period[/I] [B]ever[/B] [I]period[/I].[/B][/QUOTE] not even close, tho [editline]22nd August 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=RainbowStalin;52585042]Should I just start copy pasting earlier posts about how Communism as a political belief isn't as inherently evil as Nazism because typing the same response out 10 times a day is getting old.[/QUOTE] nobody cares if it's inherently evil or not, it killed millions of people and anybody who defends it is an ignorant and naive fool

[QUOTE=Nebukadnezzer;52599159]nobody cares if it's inherently evil or not, it killed millions of people and anybody who defends it is an ignorant and naive fool[/QUOTE] I hope you don't support capitalism if you're worried of millions of people killed

[QUOTE=RichyZ;52599166]praising communism makes you dumb, not evil[/QUOTE] When most people say Communism, they don't mean [I]Communism[/I], they mean Stalinism and similar. They're not thinking of a classless society controlled by the common man. They're thinking of political repression, authoritarian government, autocratic leadership, poverty, purges and genocide. I would say praising Stalin or Mao or Pol Pot is pretty evil, leaders like them have done horrible things to their countries and people. But those that actually do praise dictionary definition Communism are fools; they lust for the impossible.

[QUOTE=gokiyono;52599620]I hope you don't support capitalism if you're worried of millions of people killed[/QUOTE] This may be a rather insensitive/cold hearted thing to say, but the casualties or capitalism are byproduct. The casualties of Nazism were more or less at the heart of the ideology. IE you [B]can[/B] run a capitalist government without causing death. You [B]cannot[/B] run a nazi government without causing death.

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;52599731]This may be a rather insensitive/cold hearted thing to say, but the casualties or capitalism are byproduct. The casualties of Nazism were more or less at the heart of the ideology. IE you [B]can[/B] run a capitalist government without causing death. You [B]cannot[/B] run a nazi government without causing death.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure that was the point of gokiyono's post. They were replying to someone who was considering communism to be just as bad as Nazism and gokiyono's point was the same exact argument would be completely valid for capitalism too, thus implying that the argument isn't sound for the reasons you explained.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;52599669]But those that actually do praise [thing] are fools; they lust for the impossible.[/QUOTE] This has been said throughout history over things that 'can't possibly work'. A system that is flawed can be fixed; part of what Communism requires is the 'perfect base' for it to start with. Like bread, if you let that base get contaminated by the end of the day all you'll have is a mass of mold. We have already had experiments with this system - all we need do is learn from said experiments to try and fix the flaws of the system to prevent the known results from occurring. Could we make such a system more tolerant to human nature without compromising the core idea of the system? I think we could. The, as you put it, 'lust for the impossible' has been the root cause for many of our greatest scientific, social, and economic achievements. I think it's shameful to wag fingers at the dreamers of today for daring to dream; they are the ones who are liable to drive us forward into tomorrow.

[QUOTE=Firgof Umbra;52600131]This has been said throughout history over things that 'can't possibly work'. A system that is flawed can be fixed; part of what Communism requires is the 'perfect base' for it to start with. Like bread, if you let that base get contaminated by the end of the day all you'll have is a mass of mold. We have already had experiments with this system - all we need do is learn from said experiments to try and fix the flaws of the system to prevent the known results from occurring. Could we make such a system more tolerant to human nature without compromising the core idea of the system? I think we could. The, as you put it, 'lust for the impossible' has been the root cause for many of our greatest scientific, social, and economic achievements. I think it's shameful to wag fingers at the dreamers of today for daring to dream; they are the ones who are liable to drive us forward into tomorrow.[/QUOTE] If you ask me, the experiments with socialism produced social democracy which is working pretty well over here, producing one of the least violent states anywhere ever. Beyond this, I'm having hard time believing how one could increase "socialism content" of the system without compromising individual enterpreneurship further, consensus is we're already compromising with what is arguably a basic building block of successful society.