Alaska Cops Defend Their 'Right' to Sexual Contact With Sex Workers Before Arresting Them - Sensationalist Headlines

Wouldn't the police officer have to arrest themselves for seeking and getting serviced by a prostitute? I thought that was illegal.

Private prisons exist, and they get more money the more prisoners they house. So there is a motive for them to conspire with the police and the judges so that more people get arrested for no reason. The police are likely corrupt and get a cut from it, at least the guys in charge. Law, morality and logic have nothing to do with it. It's just pure greed. Poor people are treated like meat that can be sold with no reprecussions, since they can't afford to protect themselves in court.

[QUOTE=Nikita;52476051]Private prisons exist, and they get more money the more prisoners they house. So there is a motive for them to conspire with the police and the judges so that more people get arrested for no reason. The police are likely corrupt and get a cut from it, at least the guys in charge. Law, morality and logic have nothing to do with it. It's just pure greed. Poor people are treated like meat that can be sold with no reprecussions, since they can't afford to protect themselves in court.[/QUOTE] Uhh prostitution is a misdemeanor. You aren't going to prison unless you're a pimp or trafficker.

Even though it's on the other side of the planet, America seems more upside down than Australia.

[QUOTE=Flameon;52475380]IMHO, the best system is the swedish model of prostitution. It makes it illegal to PURCHASE a prostitute, but its legal to prostitute.[/QUOTE] I can't back this up with a study or something, but I've read that laws like that still endanger the prostitute because the John is still on edge and at risk of being caught, which makes more erratic, irrational, and dangerous behaviour towards the prostitute more likely to occur. [editline]17th July 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;52475060]What evidence is there that legalizing prostitution (which will eventually result in its taxation) will end underground (and tax free) prostitution? What evidence is there that pimps won't continue to force young, poor, or troubled women into that industry with abuse after it is legalized? If you want to end the bad things associated with prostitution, simply legalizing it is not a cure-all. It will just be a band-aid.[/QUOTE] Legalisation won't [I]stop[/I] underground and otherwise illegal forms of prostitution, but it makes it easier to deal with and prosecute those responsible. The main argument for legalisation is that a lot of common legal systems criminalise [I]being[/I] a prostitute, which generally doesn't deter people from becoming prostitutes, but in the end will cause disproportionate harm towards the prostitute, who can often already be a victim in these situations. If it's legal for everyone to participate in (so long as its ethical and whatnot - everyone consenting and being safe), then anyone who willingly participates won't be harmed, especially the sex worker who is often at higher risk of victimisation than anyone else involved. It also makes it easier to report unsafe or poor behaviour and business practices in a brothel, as those who blow the whistle aren't necessarily at risk of prosecution simply because they work there. Generally, calls for legalisation also accompany calls for changes in policing and legal policy, as well as societal attitudes, which are more sex positive and help prevent the alienation of sex workers by society at large.

[QUOTE=GordonZombie;52474862]It's blatant entrapment[/QUOTE] I feel like this discussion comes up with any story having to do with sting operations. Forcing you to accept money for sex at gunpoint, then arresting you: Entrapment. Pressuring you into taking a day off from your day job to have sex for money, something you've never done before, then arresting you: Entrapment. Soliciting you for prostitution while you're working as a prostitute, then arresting you: Not entrapment. Soliciting you for prostitution while you're working as a prostitute, actually having sex, and [I]then[/I] arresting you: Should be grounds for termination, should be illegal and subject to a criminal offense of its own- but not entrapment. This is fucked up and shouldn't be happening, but unless a police officer is coercing you to do something you wouldn't be willing to do normally, no, it's not entrapment, and the definition of that crime shouldn't be weakened to include this kind of exploitation. Rather, unnecessary participation in illegal activity by a police officer should remain illegal even as part of a sting operation. Unless we're talking a long-term, deep-cover operation, which 99% of these stories certainly aren't, there's absolutely no reason for an undercover police officer to be doing drugs or fucking prostitutes or whatever other unnecessary illegal activity is being justified as part of a sting.

[QUOTE=GordonZombie;52474862]Honestly any officer who does this deserves a broken jaw nevermind dismissal from the force. It's blatant entrapment but with a whole heap of other disturbing implications thrown on top.[/QUOTE] How is this entrapment? Oh wow, bad timing on my part.

[QUOTE=Nikita;52476051]Private prisons exist, and they get more money the more prisoners they house. So there is a motive for them to conspire with the police and the judges so that more people get arrested for no reason. The police are likely corrupt and get a cut from it, at least the guys in charge. Law, morality and logic have nothing to do with it. It's just pure greed. Poor people are treated like meat that can be sold with no reprecussions, since they can't afford to protect themselves in court.[/QUOTE] Obama approved a bill in his last days of office that was going to get rid of private prisions by 2020something. I dont like Obama but that move made me greatly respect him. Too bad Trump repealed it ofcourse.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;52475060]What evidence is there that legalizing prostitution (which will eventually result in its taxation) will end underground (and tax free) prostitution? What evidence is there that pimps won't continue to force young, poor, or troubled women into that industry with abuse after it is legalized? If you want to end the bad things associated with prostitution, simply legalizing it is not a cure-all. It will just be a band-aid.[/QUOTE] Can you show me evidence where illegalizing prostitution [I]does[/I] help in any of those goals?

[QUOTE=Flameon;52475380]IMHO, the best system is the swedish model of prostitution. It makes it illegal to PURCHASE a prostitute, but its legal to prostitute.[/QUOTE] Yeah, but that doesn't make any fucking sense though

Why do American police always sound so corrupt.

"American cops defend their right to snort the coke they buy from dealers they've arrested."

[QUOTE=Laserbeams;52477459]Yeah, but that doesn't make any fucking sense though[/QUOTE] It does help the actually needy party in the arrest though. People don't tend to become prostitutes for the fun of it, they are usually in dire need of money and selling sex is probably one of the easier ways to make a fair bit. Even if it can get dangerous. People paying for prostitutes are generally propping up a shitshow of an "industry", charging them takes away some of the demand. Arresting the prostitute wont really impact supply as someone else who just really needs a bit of cash can always take their place. And throwing someone who's already suffering hard times in prison isn't going to get them out of that rut without extra help. There's definitely points for that model to be honest.

[QUOTE=hexpunK;52477742]It does help the actually needy party in the arrest though. People don't tend to become prostitutes for the fun of it, they are usually in dire need of money and selling sex is probably one of the easier ways to make a fair bit. Even if it can get dangerous. People paying for prostitutes are generally propping up a shitshow of an "industry", charging them takes away some of the demand. Arresting the prostitute wont really impact supply as someone else who just really needs a bit of cash can always take their place. And throwing someone who's already suffering hard times in prison isn't going to get them out of that rut without extra help. There's definitely points for that model to be honest.[/QUOTE] I'm not advocating for prostitution to be illegal, my point is that punishing people for wanting to have sex is dumb, properly regulated prostitution hurts no one.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;52475060]What evidence is there that legalizing prostitution (which will eventually result in its taxation) will end underground (and tax free) prostitution? What evidence is there that pimps won't continue to force young, poor, or troubled women into that industry with abuse after it is legalized? If you want to end the bad things associated with prostitution, simply legalizing it is not a cure-all. It will just be a band-aid.[/QUOTE] Oh I don't know, [B]How about all the fucking countries where it is legal and don't have those problems[/B]