• Peter Rabbit film accused of 'food bullying' as rabbits pelt allergic man with blackberries
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As a kid I honestly thought the Tale of Jeremy Fisher getting mauled by a fish in one animated adaption whilst kicking and screaming scared the absolute shit out of me.
[QUOTE=gazzy_GUI;53124789]Sounds like someone has never seen Watership Down.[/QUOTE] That's not really a kids movie either. Aside from the violence, it deals with some pretty mature and serious themes.
[QUOTE=LZTYBRN;53124155]that's like saying the Simpsons is aimed at adults. while technically true, tons of kids still watch and enjoy it[/QUOTE] wich reminds me [video=youtube;qwHZbnl9grI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwHZbnl9grI[/video]
[QUOTE=Metaru;53126507]wich reminds me [video=youtube;qwHZbnl9grI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwHZbnl9grI[/video][/QUOTE] See here's the difference, this plays it for laughs in an over the top and unrealistic way. From what it sounds like in the peter rabbit movie the live action guy starts acting like a real person undergoing anaphylaxis would and pulls out an epipen (which is not a pleasant looking device mind you, unlike an oversized cartoon needle) and actually stabs himself in the leg with it. If his head just puffed up like a balloon and he started talking gobeldigook due to a swollen tongue it might be funny but this sounds "too real" and might seem needlessly cruel on watching.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;53123923] In one scene, the rabbits, who have already learned that he is allergic to blackberries, pelt him with the fruit, firing one into his mouth. Tom reportedly collapses to the ground, choking and turning red before stabbing himself in the leg with an EpiPen. [/QUOTE] ok that's pretty fucked up. If I saw that as a kid I would be legitimately disturbed and start to root for the "bad guy".
[QUOTE=thisguy123;53126952]See here's the difference, this plays it for laughs in an over the top and unrealistic way. From what it sounds like in the peter rabbit movie the live action guy starts acting like a real person undergoing anaphylaxis would and pulls out an epipen (which is not a pleasant looking device mind you, unlike an oversized cartoon needle) and actually stabs himself in the leg with it. If his head just puffed up like a balloon and he started talking gobeldigook due to a swollen tongue it might be funny but this sounds "too real" and might seem needlessly cruel on watching.[/QUOTE] [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs5ZiPxTSh8[/media]
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;53127179][media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs5ZiPxTSh8[/media][/QUOTE] I'm not sure if this is supporting the post you replied to or supposed to be some kind of zinger but the same thing applies. This is played for laughs through ridiculousness and dark humour. The scene in the movie apparently is not like that at all.
the point is that in neither of these clips people is shown in genuine danger, or genuinely dying.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;53127179][media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs5ZiPxTSh8[/media][/QUOTE] Psst! [sp]Montgomery Burns is meant to be represented as a horrendously evil person in this scene, as evidenced by him scolding and cajoling a man for succumbing to anaphylactic shock. This is different from Peter Rabbit, because Peter Rabbit is portrayed as a Jerry-like trickster hero and not a manslaughterly sociopath.[/sp]
I just wanted to complement the post with a better example from the simpsons than the imho horrendous duel scene the other guy posted, but also to show that the exaggeration of the first example, which is from a much later season, is not done in order to disarm the perceived danger but out of [url=http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Flanderization]flanderization[/url]. And I personally find the smithers version is funnier not only because it's more subdued but also because as people mentioned, the actual punchline isn't that Smithers got hurt, it's that Burns is an asshole. I have no doubt the peter rabbit version is lacking any of this and is thus just a weirdly dark scene in a children's cartoon (something which is often a staple of bad media designed for kids, the writers are either incompetent or bored and sneak in some really dark shit, deliberately or not), but I doubt it's any more than an awful scene. The earlier claims in this thread that this would somehow lead to children trying to specifically imitate that behavior (instead of, say, just being violent and irresponsible dickheads as usual, because kids) are still rather fantastical at best and the fact scenes making fun of allergies have existed for years in cartoons which are partly consumed by children shows that this isn't really a thing to worry about. And even if it did have that effect, good parenting would sort these issues out just fine and blaming the parents is usually a safer bet than blaming whatever film they put them in front of without bothering to check on the effects that it would have on their kids.
If you think about it for a second, this movie whose main target audience is small children, is an effective depiction of small animals using creative ways of committing attempted murder. [I]Nice.[/I]
[QUOTE=usaokay;53124811]ha ha yea, i saw the movie with my moviepass a couple days ago In the beginning of the movie, when the old farmer (from the books fyi) died of a heart attack, the country animals celebrated by breaking into his house and partying. They really felt no consequence from it because the farmer killed Peter Rabbit's dad and we're supposed to hate him (???) When the old guy's great grandnephew actually fucking "died" (or knocked out) at one point thanks to electric shock (or something. i forgot already), the rabbits are like, "Oh, we killed him. Okay, let's go. The ice cream truck with the big flashing lights will take him." The thing is, the film introduces the guy on the lowest point of his life (passed over for a promotion due to nepotism) even though he's kind of a perfection freak and couldn't handle tough situations that well. The entire movie just kept reminding me of this: [img]http://pbfcomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/PBF106-Billy_the_Bunny.jpg[/img] Domnhall Gleeson wanted to put the place up for sale, but Peter Rabbit kept fucking with him. Eventually Peter Rabbit's actions further culminate when Gleeson begin dating the neighbor next door, who is the only human nice to the rabbits. Then that's when the physical slapstick comedy starts.[/QUOTE] Sounds like "Mouse Hunt: This Time, With Rabbits!" to me.
Yeah the funny part is that [sp]the old man actually is killed by the rabbits and it's what sparks the whole plot with the younger characters[/sp] The movie deep down is really fucked up when you think about it.
[QUOTE=Hogie bear;53123903]I'm so sick of people getting outraged at such asinine shit, and news sites reporting on them.[/QUOTE] allergies is not asinine shit bullying is not asinine shit kids movies about bullying allergic people is not asinine shit. actually in schools this does happen, so maybe you should wake up and start looking at the real world instead of pulling up "what matters and doesn't" from nowhere.
I mean I think the point is more than children bullying kids over anything isn't really because Peter Rabbit told them it's a good idea and more because kids are immense cunts. Parenting is a far more prevalent issue in terms of kids being awful than cartoon bunnies throwing shit at people.
Remember when the first Avengers film made a joke about Loki being adopted and some associations got buttmad because it made fun of adoption or some shit People like to get mad about jokes in films regardless of how good or bad the joke ends up being.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;53128888]Remember when the first Avengers film made a joke about Loki being adopted and some associations got buttmad because it made fun of adoption or some shit People like to get mad about jokes in films regardless of how good or bad the joke ends up being.[/QUOTE] the difference lies in that that "one joke" pales in comparision to the fact that loki's character as an [I]adopted child[/I] is never presented as a bad thing.
[QUOTE=Metaru;53129096]the difference lies in that that "one joke" pales in comparision to the fact that loki's character as an [I]adopted child[/I] is never presented as a bad thing.[/QUOTE] Also the ramifications of bullying adopted people and people with alergies
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;53128888]Remember when the first Avengers film made a joke about Loki being adopted and some associations got buttmad because it made fun of adoption or some shit People like to get mad about jokes in films regardless of how good or bad the joke ends up being.[/QUOTE] But the punchline of that joke wasn't attempted murder
If it was just him getting a rash or whatever I wouldn't really see the issue, but the thought of a guy choking and collapsing and needing to actively intervene to save his own life sounds pretty horrifying for a kids' movie tbh.
This film sounds disgusting. James fucking Corden. I used to love Peter Rabbit as a kid
I'm not so much worried about this film encouraging children to do the same so much as it just seems very mean spirited for a kids movie, especially a Peter Rabbit film.
[video=youtube;23PzkFg2bS8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23PzkFg2bS8[/video]
It actually looks like he dies wow haha I can totally see why people are annoyed. This is meant for really little kids yet looking at this scene you wouldn't think that.
"That should do it" gets back up "ugh this guy is some kind of sorcerer" they are literally trying to kill him [editline]16th February 2018[/editline] I wouldn't even bat an eye if the next scene was the guy getting an armadillo gun and shooting them all
On the other hand, I don't quite understand which is it: that it's too serious for kids, or that it's too lighthearted about allergies? People are saying both things.
[QUOTE=Talvy;53136424]On the other hand, I don't quite understand which is it: that it's too serious for kids, or that it's too lighthearted about allergies? People are saying both things.[/QUOTE] serious isnt the word
[QUOTE=thejjokerr;53136422]I don't think you should shelter kids from reality or I believe they'll grow up thinking everything is nice and fine and then when they realize it's not have a hard time coping with it. People die in real life, from allergies, from lots of things. Rather face them with scary things at appropriate ages and help them cope with it. I've not seen the movie, but I'm guessing it's not actually about them killing him? The whole commotion seems to be about this single part of a single scene in a movie that lasts 1 hour and 35 minutes.[/QUOTE] True, but Peter Rabbit is aimed at really little kids not like 10 year olds. Imagine if Peppa Pig or something around that age group had something like this. I'm all for "slapstick" comedy for younger kids but this just comes off as cruel, like the effect of the allergy isn't overplayed for laughs. His eyes roll back and his falls on his back limp as if he actually died.
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