Middle school student suspended for 'liking' photo of gun on Instagram - Sensationalist Headlines

[QUOTE=Xanadu;52199784]Also see-through backpacks only.[/QUOTE] WHAT :v: I have literally never heard of this existing is this a joke

[QUOTE=Paul-Simon;52199779]ID badges? The fuck :v: Do you live in City 17 by chance? [editline]8th May 2017[/editline] [/QUOTE] The normal id's youd usually carry in your wallet, but now on your neck lol.

[QUOTE=Paul-Simon;52199789]WHAT :v: I have literally never heard of this existing is this a joke[/QUOTE] Nope, very legit. You don't even notice or think anything of it after a while. Problem was those backpacks are easier to damage and wear down a lot quicker.

[QUOTE=Omilinon;52198412]Zero tolerance policy, the cancer of the public education system.[/QUOTE] This almost seems like "Going out of our way" policy

[QUOTE=andy85258;52199802]The normal id's youd usually carry in your wallet, but now on your neck lol.[/QUOTE] Yeah, we too have like the NFC cards used for taking the bus and borrowing things in the library, but we're NEVER required to present them to anyone outside of that

So let me get this straight- a school suspends someone for doing anything firearm related, right? So what's going to stop that kid from just showing up at the end of the suspension and plugging everyone, if they were going to do that? Now the school has pissed off the shooter even more.

[QUOTE=Xanadu;52199803]Nope, very legit. You don't even notice or think anything of it after a while. Problem was those backpacks are easier to damage and wear down a lot quicker.[/QUOTE] That is the craziest shit I have ever heard.

The best way to enable a school shooter is to go after everyone just because they ~could~ be one

[QUOTE=Amplar;52199903]So let me get this straight- a school suspends someone for doing anything firearm related, right? So what's going to stop that kid from just showing up at the end of the suspension and plugging everyone, if they were going to do that? Now the school has pissed off the shooter even more.[/QUOTE] I'm kinda curious how the school would've reacted if he'd made a post about going to the shooting range or something.

[QUOTE=Paul-Simon;52199789]WHAT :v: I have literally never heard of this existing is this a joke[/QUOTE] you don't know the half of it. We had to have clear seethrough backpacks, and seethrough lunch-bags if you brought your own lunch. You had to remove your belt, shoes, and backpack and place it all in the bucket, staff would move it through the xray machine, and you stepped through a metal detector. If the metal-detector went off, (usually change or a piece of metal in your pants), you had to be wanded and patdown by an Officer. If you brought something they couldn't see through, you had the option of throwing it away, or receiving a curricular writeup, suspension, and being sent home for the remainder of the day. Girls typically waited until they got through the metal-detector to put in their earrings and piercings because the patdown took so long. Couldn't bring sodas that were from outside the school, had to be thrown out before you entered unless if was in a clear container. You also arrived early, because nodoubt, people who didn't empty their pockets were getting patted down. If you were late due to the patdowns, it went on your record and your parents were called. If you didn't have your badge, you were sent Home. I remember I was out for lunch with friends, and I left my badge on my friends dashboard while we ate. It was the middle of Summer, and my badge melted to the dashboard due to the hot-sun. They wouldn't let me in the School. I was sent Home and declared absent, was suspended for failing to care for school-property (the badge). I was personally reprimanded by my School principal, and I was forced to stay afterschool for a week. (detention) I remember going through with my friend, and they chose to random him. The wand kept going off near his rear, so they took him to the principles office and made him sit in a BOSS chair, (checks to make sure you don't have weapons or knives in your...you), he set it off so they sent him to medical, called the police, and forced him to defecate. it turned out to be a metal shard inside his pants. His dad was a machinist, and his Dad was teaching him. School called Child Protective Services, they investigated, tried to go after the Dad for endangerment but ultimately his dad had lawyer money so it didn't go anywhere (he was 17)

I don't even... What you just described sounds like a high security prison. It's actually incredible. Wanna know how all schools I've been to works? You walk into the school, and bam that's it, really. There are no x-ray machines, no metal detectors, no guards of any form. Bring whatever, nobody cares. (obvious exceptions would be weapons and drugs/alcohol) Wear anything, nobody cares. Wanna borrow stuff in the library? Let them scan the ID card to make the process faster. Forgot your card? No problem. Just tell them your name, and you'll get to borrow the thing anyways. (but they get a bit grumpy cause they have to type your difficult name) This all works because of the smaller community and the mutual trust, but I still think your school is wildly insane.

[QUOTE=Paul-Simon;52200317]I don't even... What you just described sounds like a high security prison. It's actually incredible. Wanna know how all schools I've been to works? You walk into the school, and bam that's it, really. There are no x-ray machines, no metal detectors, no guards of any form. Bring whatever, nobody cares. (obvious exceptions would be weapons and drugs/alcohol) Wear anything, nobody cares.[/QUOTE] The majority of schools in the US are more similar to what you described too. Ones like Suff's are usually in areas with a lot of gang activity.

Maybe they're not computer savvy and thought that the "like" meant that the kid was trying to obtain the gun, like watching something on ebay. Still absolute bullshit.

[QUOTE=Suff;52200104]you don't know the half of it. We had to have clear seethrough backpacks, and seethrough lunch-bags if you brought your own lunch. You had to remove your belt, shoes, and backpack and place it all in the bucket, staff would move it through the xray machine, and you stepped through a metal detector. If the metal-detector went off, (usually change or a piece of metal in your pants), you had to be wanded and patdown by an Officer. If you brought something they couldn't see through, you had the option of throwing it away, or receiving a curricular writeup, suspension, and being sent home for the remainder of the day. Girls typically waited until they got through the metal-detector to put in their earrings and piercings because the patdown took so long. Couldn't bring sodas that were from outside the school, had to be thrown out before you entered unless if was in a clear container. You also arrived early, because nodoubt, people who didn't empty their pockets were getting patted down. If you were late due to the patdowns, it went on your record and your parents were called. If you didn't have your badge, you were sent Home. I remember I was out for lunch with friends, and I left my badge on my friends dashboard while we ate. It was the middle of Summer, and my badge melted to the dashboard due to the hot-sun. They wouldn't let me in the School. I was sent Home and declared absent, was suspended for failing to care for school-property (the badge). I was personally reprimanded by my School principal, and I was forced to stay afterschool for a week. (detention) I remember going through with my friend, and they chose to random him. The wand kept going off near his rear, so they took him to the principles office and made him sit in a BOSS chair, (checks to make sure you don't have weapons or knives in your...you), he set it off so they sent him to medical, called the police, and forced him to defecate. it turned out to be a metal shard inside his pants. His dad was a machinist, and his Dad was teaching him. School called Child Protective Services, they investigated, tried to go after the Dad for endangerment but ultimately his dad had lawyer money so it didn't go anywhere (he was 17)[/QUOTE] ???? is this a school or a prison

[QUOTE=Alice3173;52200322]The majority of schools in the US are more similar to what you described too. Ones like Suff's are usually in areas with a lot of gang activity.[/QUOTE] I mean, my high school was literally designed by a prison architecture firm. But I never had to go through anything even remotely similar to what Suff's was like. Granted I graduated back in 2011, so maybe things have changed.

[QUOTE=Hinterlight;52200816]I mean, my high school was literally designed by a prison architecture firm. But I never had to go through anything even remotely similar to what Suff's was like. Granted I graduated back in 2011, so maybe things have changed.[/QUOTE] I graduated in 2007 and my high school, which was very new at the time (my freshman class was the first year for the school), wasn't like that either. Though the main high school was more strict. I know they had metal detectors (though from what I know they were rarely used, if ever?) and even had a few police officers who hung around the school. No searches or anything like Suff described though. Though there was that mass shooting there last year or the year before so that might have changed since.

Adults following children in their charge on social media is a big FUCK-NO in the UK. I work with teenagers and walk on dodgy ground by having our two young leaders on Facebook for communication. Schools can categorically [i]never[/i] have contact outside school between staff and students. How the fuck is that not a thing in America?

[QUOTE=Alice3173;52200025]I'm kinda curious how the school would've reacted if he'd made a post about going to the shooting range or something.[/QUOTE] SWAT team gets called in

[QUOTE=Paul-Simon;52198641]America has an amendment dedicated to the right to have guns, but if you're a student you better pretend they don't exist at all cause that's gonna get you suspended[/QUOTE] So I'm just adding this one to the list Kid liked a photo of a gun on instagram, 10 days suspension Kid said she'd shoot her friend with her Hello Kitty bubble gun during recess, suspended Kid drew a gun because the assignment was to draw what you see in the clouds, suspended Kid made a gun with his fingers and got suspended Kid ate his poptart into the shape of a gun and got suspended I know there's more I'm forgetting, I suck at lists

[QUOTE=Paul-Simon;52199779]ID badges? The fuck :v: Do you live in City 17 by chance? [editline]8th May 2017[/editline] So there's like guards at the doors or something? That sounds extremely alien and inconvenient to me.[/QUOTE] You know those blocking things they have at trains? [t]http://l7.alamy.com/zooms/1c3de7daa8f040649f0fb3ce8dbb3a14/automatic-ticket-gates-at-a-london-train-station-closed-c87hng.jpg[/t] Like this, plus guards. It's pretty shit.

[QUOTE=Jon27;52201171]Adults following children in their charge on social media is a big FUCK-NO in the UK. I work with teenagers and walk on dodgy ground by having our two young leaders on Facebook for communication. Schools can categorically [i]never[/i] have contact outside school between staff and students. How the fuck is that not a thing in America?[/QUOTE] Students and teachers rarely have any kind of social media contact until after they graduate. At least that was what the policy was, even for teachers that were like best friends with my mom/family. However, this doesn't sound like there was "contact", just the school crawling some students page and found something "of note"...

Sounds like somebody took this video seriously. [t]http://17909.cdx.c.ooyala.com/FvcmgyODE63R_ENXAvlehWCNQHwKPL6n/promo305268510[/t]

The kid liked a photo of a gun with the caption "Ready". I don't think they should've suspended him, but that is a weird post. I can understand how a teacher could see the post as someone announcing a shooting, or something in that direction. [editline]8th May 2017[/editline] I understand that's not the case, and it's an airsoft gun, but I don't think they suspended him because gun = bad

[QUOTE=joost1120;52201477]The kid liked a photo of a gun with the caption "Ready". I don't think they should've suspended him, but that is a weird post. I can understand how a teacher could see the post as someone announcing a shooting, or something in that direction. [editline]8th May 2017[/editline] I understand that's not the case, and it's an airsoft gun, but I don't think they suspended him because gun = bad[/QUOTE] But even then he didn't even post it, he just liked it. [editline]8th May 2017[/editline] In any case I think that even if the school legitimately notices something dangerous going on on social media they should leave it to the police to handle because it's none of their business.

[QUOTE=Suff;52200104]NOPE[/QUOTE] :bullshit: Seriously though, that's way over the fucking line.

[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;52198740]American institutions really have an issue separating people's personal lives from their work and educational lives. [b]We don't need big brother shit where you have to perform like an actor every second of your life for fear of being punished.[/b][/QUOTE] That's what they want. It keeps people paranoid about the fact that everything they say and do is being monitored. "Better fall in line with everybody else, because we'll know if you don't." At the same time, it normalizes this sort of shit to a point where it becomes overwhelming to your average person, and they decide there's no alternative but to just accept it. "I don't like it, but this is what I have to do in order to get by, and I can't change anything about it." I mean it sounds like a conspiracy theory, but they're not just doing this stuff for the hell of it-- whether we're talking about the government or private businesses intruding into people's personal lives and trying to blur that line between what's private and what's public (businesses of course have the added motivation here because of how it makes it easier for them to sell you stuff you want or need). The American public education system is also just fucking stupid, so that doesn't help matters any either. Zero Tolerance is and always has been ridiculous.

[QUOTE=Amplar;52199903]So let me get this straight- a school suspends someone for doing anything firearm related, right? So what's going to stop that kid from just showing up at the end of the suspension and plugging everyone, if they were going to do that? Now the school has pissed off the shooter even more.[/QUOTE] One of three reasons, Take your pick: -Someone in faculty is extremely anti-gun -They're going way too overzealous to avoid liability -This kid has made enemies with faculty Probably the last one, I'd say.

[QUOTE=SAULSBASHWALL;52202104]One of three reasons, Take your pick: -Someone in faculty is extremely anti-gun -They're going way too overzealous to avoid liability -This kid has made enemies with faculty Probably the last one, I'd say.[/QUOTE] More likely the second one. A lot of US school boards have built their very existence around CYA, and their administrators eat, sleep and breathe it, so you get insane "zero tolerance" shit like a kid getting a 10 day suspension for liking an airsoft gun on Instagram. CYA, that's all it is.