Shooting at Florida School, Shooter IS in custody. - Sensationalist Headlines

My mom's boyfriend saw the videos. Says if the kids valued their lives they wouldn't have screamed.

[QUOTE=MissingGlitch;53133836]My mom's boyfriend saw the videos. Says if the kids valued their life they wouldn't have screamed.[/QUOTE] What a hardass

[QUOTE=Riller;53133652]Because it's obviously easier for police-work if they had a centralized archive and database of gun-sales instead of having to go to individual gun-shops and hoping to God that their paperwork is in order (which it most likely is, but you can't be 100% sure). It would make everything so much easier for everyone involved if all gun-sale-registration papers were sent to the ATF immediately.[/QUOTE] Canada had a formal registry for over a decade, and finally abolished it when it was discovered that [i]not once[/i] had it ever contributed to solving a crime. It was a waste of taxpayer money, because unless a criminal leaves a firearm at the scene of a crime there's no way to make use of a registry. [QUOTE=Cloak Raider;53133592]I'm looking for any sort of duration clause - the swiss system requires renewal on licenses (for specific classes of firearm), but I'm not seeing one here? also, any sort of license concerning use of firearms in the US? Is there a license for using a firearm defensively for instance? as mentioned in my previous post, defensive use of a firearm in switzerland requires another license, which involves an exam and training For instance, if you're using your firearm in a shooting club, evidence of that has to be provided to cantonal authorities to maintain the license[/QUOTE] The Swiss model uses a short-term license for purchase, with ownership being permanent. I think it's a good system, and an American equivalent was proposed by a Republican senator (Coburn) a few years ago. The basic idea was that if you wanted to buy a gun, you would request a background check on yourself. The FBI would run the check and if you passed, give you a token valid for a month. You would present this token to the seller, and they could check it against an FBI system to make sure it's genuine. This system would be made mandatory for sale, and sellers would be required to hang on to the tokens for some time. This would provide for universal background checks without running into gun owner fears of registries, because the token didn't indicate the seller, how many guns were being sold, or whether or not a transaction actually took place. It would also accomplish the stated purpose of ensuring background checks on all sales. But Democrats rejected it, citing the fact that it could not be used to build a registry of who owns what. And now gun owners are logically led to understand that the explicit purpose of universal background checks is to build a registry, such as the ones used for confiscation in New York and recently Hawaii, so now they're incentivized to oppose universal background checks, further delaying any progress on the issue.

Fox News headline from the start of this whole thing have been fucking terrible. HIGHSCHOOL BLOODBATH, MONSTER AMONG THEM is the current one. Fox News is so fucking terrible

On the topic of background checks, it's worth mentioning that the he proposed budget by the White House next year cuts funding to the national system by about 16%, which amounts to millions of dollars. [QUOTE=BusterBluth;53133852]Fox News headline from the start of this whole thing have been fucking terrible. HIGHSCHOOL BLOODBATH, MONSTER AMONG THEM is the current one. Fox News is so fucking terrible[/QUOTE] They were blaming video games this morning.

[QUOTE=WJS;53133753]Saw this on the news in a few minutes ago, interview with some local county sheriff or something and the guy just said "we've concluded that this was just pure evil" lol fuck off Maybe it's to do with the United State's disgusting "out of sight out of mind" approach to mental health that turns people into shooters instead of some bullshit like the [I]forces of evil[/I][/QUOTE] these things happen when the majority of a country thinks that demons possessing people is a real thing.

[QUOTE=WJS;53133753]Saw this on the news in a few minutes ago, interview with some local county sheriff or something and the guy just said "we've concluded that this was just pure evil" lol fuck off Maybe it's to do with the United State's disgusting "out of sight out of mind" approach to mental health that turns people into shooters instead of some bullshit like the [I]forces of evil[/I][/QUOTE] God this shit is so fucking disgusting People love to just say "yep, he's evil, no way to avoid it" instead of taking some kind of social responsibility and admitting that there's a problem and trying to [I]do something[/I] Especially for a local county sheriff, who actually has power.

[QUOTE=Svinnik;53133743] seriously dont get why news services have to act like vultures and use the shooting to push their agendas[/QUOTE] It's really no surprise. Just look at that time they [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nseGeIm11XA"]literally swarmed someones home[/URL] because 'its ok they are terrorists' and went through all their stuff. they basically recorded everything and went through family photo's, ID's, etc. The media doesn't give a fuck about you, me, or anyone else. They're out for themselves and no one else. The only time the media is good for you is when you're the one feeding them info and gossip, and you use them against someone, and even then its unsafe.

[QUOTE=Raidyr;53133889]They were blaming video games this morning.[/QUOTE] Not surprising, he has a YouTube channel with nothing but video game highlights and a few gun uploads.

[QUOTE=Raidyr;53133889] They were blaming video games this morning.[/QUOTE] Only way to deflect the fact that you're leading an all-out military campaign against your own youths... It's never gonna be the angry, entitled political rhetoric or the fact that too many adults are seriously looking way insane from the perspective of young people who are right now learning how to communicate respectfully and how to be socially aware. Nope. It's dem fucking vidya gaems. It's not hypicritic religiousity, it's not defensive verbal racism, it's not aggressively assertiveness as a substitute of actually being aware in an argument. It's the games. Spyro is encouraging your kids to kill, fuck and radicalize!

Was watching the CBS morning news today and they were talking to some lady that said. "Did you know there have been 18 mass shootings this year." Can some one tell me when the other 17 happened?

[QUOTE=Jacob_sword;53134017]Was watching the CBS morning news today and they were talking to some lady that said. "Did you know there have been 18 mass shootings this year." Can some one tell me when the other 17 happened?[/QUOTE] [url=http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/school-shootings-year-article-1.3821162]I believe this is the list they are talking about, compiled by NY Daily News[/url]

Don't know if this has been posted yet, but it look slike this kid was into some alt right shit [img]https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article12030390.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/What-does-Allahu-Akbar-mean-Disturbing-social-media-posts-of-Florida-school-shooting-suspect-who.jpg[/img] [img]https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article12030375.ece/ALTERNATES/s810/What-does-Allahu-Akbar-mean-Disturbing-social-media-posts-of-Florida-school-shooting-suspect-who.jpg[/img]

[t]https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article12030390.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/What-does-Allahu-Akbar-mean-Disturbing-social-media-posts-of-Florida-school-shooting-suspect-who.jpg[/t] Did he think he was the first one to look that up or something?

[QUOTE=Grenadiac;53134044][t]https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article12030390.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/What-does-Allahu-Akbar-mean-Disturbing-social-media-posts-of-Florida-school-shooting-suspect-who.jpg[/t] Did he think he was the first one to look that up or something?[/QUOTE] Ever seen a teenager's Instagram? They're all dumpster fires.

[URL="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/15/us/florida-shooting.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=b-lede-package-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news"]NYTimes[/URL] [QUOTE]Ben Bennight, a bail bondsman in Mississippi, said in a video posted Wednesday that he reported a suspicious comment left on his YouTube channel last fall by a user named “nikolas cruz.” “I’m going to be a professional school shooter,” the Sept. 24 comment said. Mr. Bennight took a screenshot of the comment and flagged it to YouTube, which removed the post. Then, Mr. Bennight said he left a voice mail message at his local F.B.I. field office alerting them about the comment. Mr. Bennight, 36, spoke briefly with The New York Times on Thursday. He said when he originally reported the comments to the F.B.I., a pair of agents interviewed him the next morning. Mr. Bennight said two F.B.I. agents visited him a few hours after the shooting on Wednesday, spending about 15 to 20 minutes with him. The agents told him they thought the person who posted on his channel might be connected to the Florida shooting because they had the same name. The F.B.I. on Thursday released a statement that said it received information about a comment made on a YouTube channel in September 2017. “No other information was included in the comment which would indicate a particular time, location, or the true identity of the person who posted the comment,” the statement said. The F.B.I. said it conducted database reviews and other checks, but were unable to further identify the person who posted the comment.[/QUOTE]

[media]https://twitter.com/AP/status/964195101621870594[/media]

[QUOTE=NoOneKnowsMe;53134303][media]https://twitter.com/AP/status/964195101621870594[/media][/QUOTE] Oh shit. I think this may have actually just gotten important.

[QUOTE=NoOneKnowsMe;53134303][media]https://twitter.com/AP/status/964195101621870594[/media][/QUOTE] what white nationalist group? why would AP not say? that's pretty important info to just leave out

Republic of Florida[QUOTE] ROF describes itself as a “white civil rights organization fighting for white identitarian politics” and seeks to create a “white ethnostate” in Florida. [/QUOTE] [url]https://www.adl.org/blog/florida-white-supremacist-group-admits-ties-to-alleged-parkland-school-shooter-nikolas-cruz[/url]

We just had 4 threats this morning in 2 countys in Eastern NC and I believe 1 threat in Upstate SC. I feel like the media blowing this up just causes people who have the idea and "plan" planted in their mind that this is the greenlight to go and do it. Copy cats or just cool edgey kids.. This is getting a bit excessive.

It's a bummer whenever this happens because it feels like nothing will change because of reasons people have told me about hundreds of times before. oh well, see you all next time someone decides to shoot up a bunch of people.

To paraphrase a twitter post on whether or not the shooter was part of a white nationalist group: I would hold off on saying the shooter was some trained white nationalist until we get more then just some white nationalist group's say so. It could be true. Though groups like these seek negative publicity a good chunk of the time. Like how ISIS claims responsibility for attacks they didn't actually commit.

[QUOTE=zizzleplix;53134403]To paraphrase a twitter post on whether or not the shooter was part of a white nationalist group: I would hold off on saying the shooter was some trained white nationalist until we get more then just some white nationalist group's say so. It could be true. Though groups like these seek negative publicity a good chunk of the time. Like how ISIS claims responsibility for attacks they didn't actually commit.[/QUOTE] im not so sure. ISIS does that because they benefit from us hating them. these white supremacy groups benefit if we don't mind them or feel "sympathetic" to their cause, so I wouldn't think they would falsely take responsibility for these things. I expect what will happen is that they will come out and say "yeah we dont support the murder of kids like this, this one guy of ours was just a nutjob. we simply believe we must cleanse all non-whites from the planet like ordinary people"

[QUOTE=Trebgarta;53134456]They didn't "claim" this attack. That's absurd. [B][I][U]They say they were taken by surprise as well.[/U][/I][/B][/QUOTE] The warning signs that this kid was exhibiting should of made this event clear as day that something was gonna happen.

Thinking a white nationalist group would take "credit" for something like this is absurd.

[QUOTE=Trebgarta;53134456]They didn't "claim" this attack. That's absurd. They say they were taken by surprise as well. Negative press for a fringe paramilitary group is not helpful, that's just ammunition for prosecutors looking for excuses to take them down. ISIS is a completely different beast, obviously. I believe they saw it coming, so they decided to break it and come clean, given that they didn't have anything to do with the attack itself. Better than people arriving to conclusions on their own.[/QUOTE] "I can't believe this unstable guy we brainwashed with genocidal beliefs and then gave paramilitary training to went out and killed a bunch of people!! we are innocent, it was a total surprise" white nationalists are all terrorists

One of the worst things is that it seems like this was one of the more preventable shootings ever. The kid practically told everyone he was going to do it but no one listened. No one.

[QUOTE=Judas;53134473]"I can't believe this unstable guy we brainwashed with genocidal beliefs and then gave paramilitary training to went out and killed a bunch of people!! we are innocent, it was a total surprise" white nationalists are all terrorists[/QUOTE] They are terror groups but if they think any of their members are actually going to go out and commit violence on this level they will give those members the boot. They are already walking a narrow line legally; they don't want the extra heat. They mostly mean to intimidate with their presence while technically remaining on the right side of the law. [editline]15th February 2018[/editline] [QUOTE=OvB;53134476]One of the worst things is that it seems like this was one of the more preventable shootings ever. The kid practically told everyone he was going to do it but no one listened. No one.[/QUOTE] It's actually ridiculous how many signs this kid was showing. And everyone knew it and everyone played it off like a joke. FBI and local LE had both been tipped off and still nothing came of it? With his history of violence and threats? You've got to be kidding me.

[QUOTE=OvB;53134476]One of the worst things is that it seems like this was one of the more preventable shootings ever. The kid practically told everyone he was going to do it but no one listened. No one.[/QUOTE] It's kind of wild, its like... I tell you I'm going to break into facepunches headquarters and burn the servers down, and I'm some crazy lunatic and there might be real merit to the claim do you tell people and have my crazy ass stopped or do you not do anything It seems so obvious to tell people, why didn't this happen if it was so obvious, I don't get it.