Magic mushrooms are the safest recreational drug, study says - Sensationalist Headlines

[QUOTE=grr164;52270244]Safe? Why've I been doing them all this time then? Time to move onto huffing paint thinner. You can also hallucinate from taking too much Benadryl I found that out on accident. I am not a bright man.[/QUOTE] Did you see the spiders?

[QUOTE=grr164;52270244]Safe? Why've I been doing them all this time then? Time to move onto huffing paint thinner. You can also hallucinate from taking too much Benadryl I found that out on accident. I am not a bright man.[/QUOTE] Yeah don't do this as I got permanent drug psychosis from this now when I take it for allergies or gravol I hallucinate like a schizo and every other drug triggers it too. That god I like being a crazy nut bar or this would be bad. So I guess the short answer is if you like to be crazy do drugs if not don't. Medical use does not count.

Mushrooms and other psychedelics are an incredible tool for bringing things to your attention which your otherwise subconscious mind would repress. I once took an 8th of some darkweb shrooms, alone, in my room with the lights off, with no music or anything, and it was one of the worst times of my life, but I learned about myself. Obviously those with predispositions to mental illness should tread carefully or not at all, but for many people going through a tough time in life, the tools can be extremely helpful when used appropriately. Key word is "appropriately". I once took an ambulance ride to the hospital when tripping on shrooms despite not showing signs or aggression or needing help. I was stupid for having taken a huge dose around sober people who have never used shrooms. If you're not responsible then anything can be dangerous, but if you're cautious then you might find something useful to incorporate back to your sober life. That's why I see drugs as tools

[QUOTE=Duck M.;52271908]As someone with a long family history of alcoholism and mental disorder including serious depression and anxiety, I think I'm going to have to stay pretty far away from drugs for my whole life. Maybe a little unfortunate I guess, but I wont lose any sleep over it.[/QUOTE] My family's the same, lots of addicts and crazy people. I've tried pot but it's not for me. LSD fucking changed my life though.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;52272689]Just saying there's apparently enough of a risk that you'll go into full blown meltdown panic mode if you don't have someone to ground you, so I can't see how it's the safest drug. That's more the kind of thing you'd be signing a liability waiver for, and probably would have to if buying them ever became legal.[/QUOTE] But you won't immediately go into a meltdown if nobody is there. It's a precaution if you start to go down that road. This is like saying if safety inspectors weren't on a construction site then the whole place would start falling apart. It's to be safe in case it [B]does[/B] happen. Not because it [B]will [/B]happen.

[QUOTE=matt000024;52273475]Did you see the spiders?[/QUOTE] did you also light a cigarette in your hand?

[QUOTE=matt000024;52273475]Did you see the spiders?[/QUOTE] Something along those lines, also strange color shifts & whatnot. Let me be clear that I did not purposely overdose myself on Benadryl, which I've heard has become a fad for younger people.. I was just 16 and dumb and thought "ah they're probably just like ibuprofen I'll take 6 & be done with it" ....I've grown a lot over the past 6 years.

[QUOTE=Guriosity;52273265]Bad weed possible? Unlike booze, weed hi s vary from dose to dose.[/QUOTE] Ehh it can but for the most part pot is of a generally consistent quality. That being said this is just like 7 years of anecdotal experience in New England so it could just be other places have some creepy weed

[QUOTE=grr164;52275799]Something along those lines, also strange color shifts & whatnot. Let me be clear that I did not purposely overdose myself on Benadryl, which I've heard has become a fad for younger people.. I was just 16 and dumb and thought "ah they're probably just like ibuprofen I'll take 6 & be done with it" ....I've grown a lot over the past 6 years.[/QUOTE] Damn that sounds bad then. Benadryl "trips" sound scary to me, mostly because I have arachnophobia.

I've known and heard about enough people who were irreversibly damaged from shrooms to the point that they became a hollow and pathetic shell of their former selves to never consider shrooms a safe drug.

[QUOTE=Bertie;52277029]I've known and heard about enough people who were irreversibly damaged from shrooms to the point that they became a hollow and pathetic shell of their former selves to never consider shrooms a safe drug.[/QUOTE] Got a source on that other than "I know a few guys?"

[QUOTE=matt000024;52277125]Got a source on that other than "I know a few guys?"[/QUOTE] No, and I invite you not to believe me and take as many shrooms as you'd like. First-hand witnessing has done enough to convince me. I didn't reach this conclusion on the internet.

[QUOTE=Bertie;52277149]No, and I invite you not to believe me and take as many shrooms as you'd like. First-hand witnessing has done enough to convince me. I didn't reach this conclusion on the internet.[/QUOTE] Sure, psychedelics rip your world apart and destroy all normal order you're so used to. If you weren't ready for it, it can certainly be a traumatic time, but if we're being anecdotal for me and many others it has had serious long lasting positive effects. Education and preparation is key.

[QUOTE=Crumpet;52277162]Sure, psychedelics rip your world apart and destroy all normal order you're so used to. If you weren't ready for it, it can certainly be a traumatic time, but if we're being anecdotal for me and many others it has had serious long lasting positive effects. Education and preparation is key.[/QUOTE] Don't get me wrong, I don't think psychedelic mushrooms are made of pure soul-crushing evil. I just don't see the point in calling them the safest drug when they're not safe by any stretch of tue imagination for anyone not well prepared, and even then, God help you if you're predisposed to mental illnesses or already mentally ill. Measuring drug safety by whether or not it threatened your actual life seems dumb to me. You can take Heroin in measured doses and not too frequently and it probably would also qualify as safe. The effect on the mind of the person is the biggest concern for me regarding any drug.

At least half the fun of magic mushrooms is sharing the stories afterwards. My friend got in an argument with a tree. We had a hearty giggle when he told us, so we went to look and holy shit the tree looked fucking evil, man. We decided to cut it down, but we had nothing to cut it down with so we just left. Then we had to cross a road and we were scared people would see us, so we crawled to the other side pretending to be dogs. Truffles is a pretty good way to have a magic mushrooms experience, but without the extreme mindfuck part. It's a good way to prepare for an actual mushroom trip, so you have a bit of an idea of what to expect.

[QUOTE=Bertie;52277149]No, and I invite you not to believe me and take as many shrooms as you'd like. First-hand witnessing has done enough to convince me. I didn't reach this conclusion on the internet.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry if I don't believe your anecdotal evidence which is all I usually get against small use of psychedelics.

last summer i ate an eighth (3.5 grams) of dry magic mushrooms twice (no water weight :v:) before and while i went hiking in the woods for about 13 hours. it was a pretty fun time, tripped balls, made friends with a bird, and ate sandwiches on a log by a river. walked home, all good. a few weeks before that hike, i went on a hike after i dropped 3 tabs of acid. went just as well, saw a lot of trees. i've never had an issue with psychedelics or really needed a trip sitter lol i feel like a lot of people are really over-exaggerating effects of them.

[QUOTE=geel9;52269804]They may be the safest physiologically but psychologically they can do some real damage. Shrooms are the only known psychedelic to have a permanent effect on a person's personality.[/QUOTE] Many drugs can have permanent effect on personality dude, not only shrooms.

[QUOTE=Fourier;52287192]Many drugs can have permanent effect on personality dude, not only shrooms.[/QUOTE] True, but who's to say the changed personality isn't a better person than the one before? It does open many doors, ones that can never be closed again.

It would have been good to also cross-study the secondary effects of doing these kinds of drugs, like HPPD or cancer. That said, shrooms are quite safe. The fact of the matter is that they manage to bring out latent mental conditions(like most drugs actually) and people give them hell for this. People who go "crazy" when they use shrooms would have most possibly gone "crazy" even without them.

[QUOTE=Toothpick;52269280]I can guarantee marijuana is the cause of a large percentage of heart attack calls (which is what this article is basing its findings on). Especially now, weed is getting damn powerful. I even feel the heart shit sometimes.[/QUOTE] It should be clear that weed has absolutely ZERO chance of triggering a heart attack, unless you're running a triathlon and doing dabs at the same time or something. What it does trigger easily is panic attacks, I know from experience having taken myself to the ER three separate times because I was dangerously stoned and paranoid and [i]thought[/i] I was having a heart attack, and I've heard similar stories like that. Just wanna make it clear for anyone who gets waaaay too fucking high and thinks they're gonna die: You're not gonna die, just get some snacks and a blanket and chill yourself out.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;52270979]If you need another person to keep you from losing your mind, it's probably not "the safest drug".[/QUOTE] They're there for reassurance. When I was on shrooms, all I wanted was someone sober there to tell me I was okay, because physically, shrooms make you feel like you have food poisoning (because you do). I was hot, cold, sweating, shivering, energetic, tired, extremely confused, coherent, back to confused. The incoherence was the hardest part though. Nothing made sense at all and my mind was so blurry. For that reason it would have been nice to have a sober person in the room be like "nah man you're fine, chill" when I started to get a little panicky about how I was feeling [editline]29th May 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Qwerty Bastard;52287717]It should be clear that weed has absolutely ZERO chance of triggering a heart attack, unless you're running a triathlon and doing dabs at the same time or something. What it does trigger easily is panic attacks, I know from experience having taken myself to the ER three separate times because I was dangerously stoned and paranoid and [i]thought[/i] I was having a heart attack, and I've heard similar stories like that. Just wanna make it clear for anyone who gets waaaay too fucking high and thinks they're gonna die: You're not gonna die, just get some snacks and a blanket and chill yourself out.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't say it has zero chance, it DOES increase your heart rate. I'm sure that demonstrates SOME risk, (maybe not just for heart attack), even if it's astronomically low

[QUOTE=V12US;52277401]At least half the fun of magic mushrooms is sharing the stories afterwards. My friend got in an argument with a tree. We had a hearty giggle when he told us, so we went to look and holy shit the tree looked fucking evil, man. We decided to cut it down, but we had nothing to cut it down with so we just left. Then we had to cross a road and we were scared people would see us, so we crawled to the other side pretending to be dogs. Truffles is a pretty good way to have a magic mushrooms experience, but without the extreme mindfuck part. It's a good way to prepare for an actual mushroom trip, so you have a bit of an idea of what to expect.[/QUOTE] truffles are exactly the same as shrooms, i dont know why you would think there would be less mindfuck