• Carleton University comes under heavy criticism after gym scale removed
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[QUOTE=Flubbman;51958794]So don't use them?[/QUOTE] I'm not saying I agree with the school's decision, but what I will say is that from personal experience, people who have anorexia will obsessively check the scale - as in multiple times per hour, obsessively. A friend of mine visited and I needed to hide my scale as a result, because she would check it as if her bodyweight floated too high (which for her was over 100lbs) she'd start having panic attacks. So I'm not saying the school is right, what I am saying is don't be an insensitive dick to people who are suffering from mental illness.
There actually is some truth to dependence on scales being very unproductive to people trying to become healthy, they look at weight, and not health, and wind up discouraged because weight loss actually takes a looooong time. Health is far more important, and even overweight people (not up to morbidly obese ofc lol) can be much healthier than random skinny people if they actually exercise. But this is really dumb, it's not that the scale is an evil thing you need to take away.
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;51964501]I'm not saying I agree with the school's decision, but what I will say is that from personal experience, people who have anorexia will obsessively check the scale - as in multiple times per hour, obsessively. A friend of mine visited and I needed to hide my scale as a result, because she would check it as if her bodyweight floated too high (which for her was over 100lbs) she'd start having panic attacks. So I'm not saying the school is right, what I am saying is don't be an insensitive dick to people who are suffering from mental illness.[/QUOTE] Maybe those people should just deal with it. It is not like someone is forcing them gunpoint to look at the scale and weigh themselves with it. And it is obvious which people wanted the scale removed. It is the same crowd getting offended at healthy body images or other persons who somehow manage to look normal and not like something that might have come outta the ocean. People who suffer from a mental illness like anorexia don't complain about stuff like this, simply because they do not have enough confidence to complain. I am overweight, but I am living a healthy lifestyle including eating responsible and doing sports regularly. So while I am losing weight and seeing how they complain about the world being a problem for them when in fact, they are the problem, makes me pissed off.
[QUOTE=agentalexandre;51959639]People don't use scales in the gym to weigh themselves before and after a workout (if they do, they are misinformed about how weight loss/gain works). They use it to weigh themselves at consistent points in time throughout the week to gain a better understanding of their weight loss/gain progress. There are literally no stupid arguments in favour of having scales in a gym. It is asinine to encourage everyone who wants to use a scale to buy one for themselves when it is standard piece of equipment in any gym. Next you'll be telling me that having dumbbells in a gym is pointless and I should just buy my own for use at home.[/QUOTE] Im not saying that there should or shouldnt be a scale in the gym, but Im saying that the arguments that people are giving for why or why there shouldnt be a scale in the gym are dumb. On the side of having a scale, people (who I go to school with, and actually use this gym, and arent gym junkies, only go twice or less a week) they are saying that they need it to weigh themselves, yet they only do a very moderate workout once a week, where they wont see any change in weight on a weekly basis, or the other side that is for the removal of the scale are saying that it is to force the gym users to not measure success of working out based on weight.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/8pcFnjU.jpg[/img] Relevant.
Stepping on a scale is what caused me to go "Oh shit, I need to do something" and lose 30kg (~66lbs) and get fit. I used the scale at the gym to see my weight drop and encourage me to keep going. You've got to face the facts, let them smack you in the face to get that spark to do something. You can't close your eyes, cover your ears and go "LALALA EVERYTHING'S FINE LALALALA" which seems to be all the rage nowadays.
[QUOTE=SgtTupelo;51972822]Stepping on a scale is what caused me to go "Oh shit, I need to do something" and lose 30kg (~66lbs) and get fit. I used the scale at the gym to see my weight drop and encourage me to keep going. You've got to face the facts, let them smack you in the face to get that spark to do something. You can't close your eyes, cover your ears and go "LALALA EVERYTHING'S FINE LALALALA" which seems to be all the rage nowadays.[/QUOTE] i'm assuming this is aimed at the other end of the spectrum. When I was 16 bmi and exercise obsessed the scale dictated how i was going to feel for the rest of the day. eating disorders are a purely psychological sickness not cured by simply facing the facts. not defending the removal of the scale, not like that does anything at all to help anyone. sick people most likely own their own scales anyway and avoid weighing in public at all costs.
[QUOTE=CarnolfMeatla;51964551][B]Maybe those people should just deal with it. It is not like someone is forcing them gunpoint to look at the scale and weigh themselves with it.[/B] And it is obvious which people wanted the scale removed. It is the same crowd getting offended at healthy body images or other persons who somehow manage to look normal and not like something that might have come outta the ocean. People who suffer from a mental illness like anorexia don't complain about stuff like this, simply because they do not have enough confidence to complain. I am overweight, but I am living a healthy lifestyle including eating responsible and doing sports regularly. So while I am losing weight and seeing how they complain about the world being a problem for them when in fact, they are the problem, makes me pissed off.[/QUOTE] You obviously haven't had experience dealing with any sort of obsessive-compulsive disorder. They have little control when their compulsions and obsessive thoughts take over.
This can easily be dismissed as just a knee-jerk reaction from me but I feel like some universities are slowly becoming adult daycare centers with this dumb shit happening
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