Denmark gets its first wild wolf pack in 200 years - Sensationalist Headlines

I kind of enjoyed the idea of being the apex predator and not having to worry about fuck all when out and about in the forest. Why do we need wolves lol?

[QUOTE=kaskade700;52189895]I kind of enjoyed the idea of being the apex predator and not having to worry about fuck all when out and about in the forest. Why do we need wolves lol?[/QUOTE] I'd be happy if they fucked over the boar population a bit.

[QUOTE=kokonut;52189012]Wolves are a pest, I hope it gets exterminated asap[/QUOTE] You clearly don't understand the relationships between the various types of animals in nature. Wolves exist as a population control method for multiple types of herbivores. If herbivores(such as deer) overpopulate, they'll overeat and all subsequently die because there'd be no food. [QUOTE=Rixxz2;52189678]And by not re-introducing wolves you have one less potentially dangerous animal to worry about. I'd still rather deal with a herbivore than a pack of smart and hungry predators. [/QUOTE] [url=http://www.wwf.de/fileadmin/fm-wwf/Publikationen-PDF/2002.Review.wolf.attacks.pdf]Wolves rarely attack people.[/url] It's largely rabid wolves that attack humans, and even then it's not for food. Not reintroducing them is harmful to the environment as you've lost a critical apex predator. Meanwhile, you have an overpopulation of boars that are actually pests and actually extremely dangerous that attack people all the time.

Balance is needed in an environment, and right now hogs are far worse pest compared to wolves. That's not to say that both shouldn't be kept at some form of balance, but from what I'm aware of in Europe, your guy's wild boars are more brazen then metal scrappers.

[QUOTE=kaskade700;52189895]I kind of enjoyed the idea of being the apex predator and not having to worry about fuck all when out and about in the forest. Why do we need wolves lol?[/QUOTE] That is an extremely ignorant opinion, predators are extremely important to animal population control.

[QUOTE=_Axel;52189738]Those who don't want to risk encountering dangerous animals? Well, yeah. Herbivores and predators is a poor way of classifying animal-related danger. I'd rather get attacked by a fox than charged by a rhino.[/QUOTE] Translation:"Everybody should abandon their life and profession in rural areas and move to the cities, and completely ignore how this will hurt economies in multiple ways!" Seems like a good way to destroy any farming or rural industry you have, drive up costs of living in cities and the costs of goods by removing competitors.

[QUOTE=LtKyle2;52190045]Translation:"Everybody should abandon their life and profession in rural areas and move to the cities, and completely ignore how this will hurt economies in multiple ways!" Seems like a good way to destroy any farming or rural industry you have, drive up costs of living in cities and the costs of goods by removing competitors.[/QUOTE] Wolves don't slaughter sheep by the hundreds or thousands. They kill one to eat. Maybe two or three for the whole pack. Yeah, it'll hurt farmers to lose a sheep here or there, but it's not going to cripple the sheep economy.

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;52190009]Balance is needed in an environment, and right now hogs are far worse pest compared to wolves. That's not to say that both shouldn't be kept at some form of balance, but from what I'm aware of in Europe, your guy's wild boars are more brazen then metal scrappers.[/QUOTE] Balance is key, yeah. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if a measured reintroduction of wolves in the environment resulted in a net diminution of animal attacks, since wolves would keep the boar population in check along with other dangerous preys. [editline]5th May 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=LtKyle2;52190045]Translation:"Everybody should abandon their life and profession in rural areas and move to the cities, and completely ignore how this will hurt economies in multiple ways!" Seems like a good way to destroy any farming or rural industry you have, drive up costs of living in cities and the costs of goods by removing competitors.[/QUOTE] My point is that if you live in a rural area, you're already exposed to risks of animal attacks. The reintroduction of wolves would be negligible in terms of added danger, and could even reduce it for the aforementioned reasons. If you can't bear the idea of being exposed to aggressive animals, you have no business living near forests to begin with.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;52190054]Wolves don't slaughter sheep by the hundreds or thousands. They kill one to eat. Maybe two or three for the whole pack. Yeah, it'll hurt farmers to lose a sheep here or there, but it's not going to cripple the sheep economy.[/QUOTE] I wasn't saying they did. I was calling him out on saying something stupid like everybody who live out in rural areas should pick up and leave, ignoring that many if not all simply can't do such a thing because it would abandon everything they have for his supposed sense of righteousness. [editline]5th May 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=_Axel;52190061]Balance is key, yeah. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if a measured reintroduction of wolves in the environment resulted in a net diminution of animal attacks, since wolves would keep the boar population in check along with other dangerous preys. [editline]5th May 2017[/editline] My point is that if you live in a rural area, you're already exposed to risks of animal attacks. The reintroduction of wolves would be negligible in terms of added danger, and could even reduce it for the aforementioned reasons. If you can't bear the idea of being exposed to aggressive animals, you have no business living near forests to begin with.[/QUOTE] Sounds like you guys need some kind of wild animal control then.

[QUOTE=LtKyle2;52190072]Sounds like you guys need some kind of wild animal control then.[/QUOTE] Not any more if wolves were reintroduced is my point.

[QUOTE=LtKyle2;52190072]I wasn't saying they did. I was calling him out on saying something stupid like everybody who live out in rural areas should pick up and leave, ignoring that many if not all simply can't do such a thing because it would abandon everything they have for his supposed sense of righteousness. [editline]5th May 2017[/editline] Sounds like you guys need some kind of wild animal control then.[/QUOTE] Boars fuck faster than you can kill em :v:

[QUOTE=Crimor;52190172]Boars fuck faster than you can kill em :v:[/QUOTE] Kill em faster

[QUOTE=duckmaster;52190033]That is an extremely ignorant opinion, predators are extremely important to animal population control.[/QUOTE] So far humanity's done a pretty good job of keeping the ecosystem in check

[QUOTE=Rixxz2;52191085]So far humanity's done a pretty good job of keeping the ecosystem in check[/QUOTE] Is that sarcasm?

[QUOTE=Rixxz2;52191085]So far humanity's done a pretty good job of keeping the ecosystem in check[/QUOTE] Good joke

[QUOTE=Tangerine;52188878]It sure would be nice if we could reintroduce wolves to those red areas in the future. In the US, for one, deer overpopulation is a problem is a lot of states, and while hunting certainly can help with that, it's the lack of natural predators which makes it an issue in the first place. Destruction to crops and attacks on livestock would still be an issue, of course, but forested area has been growing by quite a lot in much of Europe and the northeastern US, and that gives them more area to roam. I'm sure this has been proposed more than once before, though, so the fact that it hasn't been implemented yet probably means it's not quite as easy as just throwing a bunch of wolves out into some wooded area.[/QUOTE] One issue, at least in the northeast U.S, might be coyotes. When they were more abundant, wolves (and cougars) out-competed coyotes and kept them out. But once the wolf and cougar populations dropped, coyotes moved in. Now that the coyote population is established, it's probably more difficult for reintroduced wolves to compete with them.

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;52191182]Good joke[/QUOTE] Hey you know you've got about fiftyeleven billion times the landmass that we've got to cover so I've no idea how it's going for you, but as far as I know things are working out pretty okay without wolves over here

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;52189699]You're a cat lover, aren't you.[/QUOTE] Though you didn't reply to me, I've got to admit that part of my dislike for wolves comes from the fact that I'm terrified of medium-large sized canines. When I was a child I rode a bicycle to a friend of mine on a gravel road routed through the forest fairly often, on this road there was a house whose owners had a german shepherd. Each time I'd travel on this road it would either be early autumn, late spring or summer, as there would otherwise be too much snow in the way. The owners of said dog also kept it outside during the days of this time, it was kept leashed though, so all it could do was bark. That was until one summer day in 2005, when I was 11, when it somehow managed to break free. It wasn't until I realized that the barking and panting moved closer and closer that I looked behind me, just to see this seemingly huge monster accelerating towards me. Panicked I put in the highest gear and pushed the pedals as hard as I could, the dog still managed to catch up with me, biting my left leg, causing me to fall, scraping my right leg, arm and face against the gravel. As I laid there it stood about two meters away growling and barking at me, and with every slight movement I made it moved closer and growled louder, so I laid there for about 15 minutes, essentially playing dead until the owners finally went out looking for it and called it back. At that point I biked as fast as I could to my friend's house, which was only about a kilometer away, crying I went in there, his parents saw the state me and my clothes were in and asked me what had happened, I told them the story, his mom called my parents and his dad called the owners and yelled at them. After that his and my parents joined and got me to the local health center, my bite wound was examined, I got a couple of shots, the police was involved, and the dog got put down. In hindsight I realize that the shepherd was not at all to blame, it simply followed it's instincts; I was a trespasser that had to be dealt with. It's 100% the owner's fault for not only failing to secure it properly, but mainly for failing to raise it properly. It's sad that it was mainly the dog that had to pay for it in the end, with it's life nonetheless. But ever since that day it's been sort of soldered into my brain that canines are unreliable and violent beasts that can not be trusted

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;52190054]Wolves don't slaughter sheep by the hundreds or thousands. They kill one to eat. Maybe two or three for the whole pack. Yeah, it'll hurt farmers to lose a sheep here or there, but it's not going to cripple the sheep economy.[/QUOTE] Germany pays compensation for this, on that note, meaning our farmers shouldn't be economically affected.