Sumatran tiger killed and hung after Indonesian villagers feared it was 'shapeshifter' - Sensationalist Headlines

if an endangered tiger is threatening to kill me and those who have the capacity to relocate it to somewhere where it isn't threatening me aren't doing so then i'm going to kill that fucking tiger. you'd have to be extremely privileged to think these people should sacrifice their lives to protect one cat, even if that cat is one of the few remaining ones left.

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;53179553]if an endangered tiger is threatening to kill me and those who have the capacity to relocate it to somewhere where it isn't threatening me aren't doing so then i'm going to kill that fucking tiger. you'd have to be extremely privileged to think these people should sacrifice their lives to protect one cat, even if that cat is one of the few remaining ones left.[/QUOTE] agreed. the fact that most of us live in a place where we can own animals(other than dogs) as pets vs a food source is already immensely privileged of us.

[QUOTE=joshuadim;53178896]The worst part about this is that the Sumatran Tiger is listed as [B][I]Critically Endangered[/I][/B]. These idiot villagers just participated in the death of a species that is already near the verge of being wiped from our natural history.[/QUOTE] it's a remote community, it would not surprise me one bit if they had no idea it was endangered not everyone keeps a mental list of the local endangered species

[QUOTE=NightmareX91;53179590]it's a remote community, it would not surprise me one bit if they had no idea it was endangered not everyone keeps a mental list of the local endangered species[/QUOTE] [QUOTE][B]Conservation officials had warned villagers in Hatupangan, in north Sumatra, not to hurt the animal[/B], which had been spotted around the village for several weeks. But their appeals were ignored. "Unfortunately they would not listen. They insisted on killing the tiger," local conservation agency head Hotmauli Sianturi said, adding that a [B]conservation officer was stopped from protecting the animal.[/B][/QUOTE] They knew it was endangered.

[QUOTE=Splash Attack;53179663]They knew it was endangered.[/QUOTE] ah right, my bad

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;53179553]if an endangered tiger is threatening to kill me and those who have the capacity to relocate it to somewhere where it isn't threatening me aren't doing so then i'm going to kill that fucking tiger. you'd have to be extremely privileged to think these people should sacrifice their lives to protect one cat, even if that cat is one of the few remaining ones left.[/QUOTE] This is pretty reationary, if you ask me. The Conservation Agency was apparently trying to capture it using a trap. Instead, the villagers tracked it and killed it themselves because they suspected it was a some kind of supernatural being. Oh and they might also be selling body parts from it as well. [url]https://www.reuters.com/article/us-indonesia-tiger/endangered-sumatran-tiger-falls-victim-to-brutal-killing-spree-idUSKBN1GH1PG[/url]

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[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;53179553]if an endangered tiger is threatening to kill me and those who have the capacity to relocate it to somewhere where it isn't threatening me aren't doing so then i'm going to kill that fucking tiger. you'd have to be extremely privileged to think these people should sacrifice their lives to protect one cat, even if that cat is one of the few remaining ones left.[/QUOTE] Yeah but they apparently tracked it down and killed it because they thought it was a shapeshifter even after being told it was endangered and the local authorities wanted to trap it and relocate it.

[QUOTE=mugofdoom;53179873]Yeah but they apparently tracked it down and killed it because they thought it was a shapeshifter even after being told it was endangered and the local authorities wanted to trap it and relocate it.[/QUOTE] Again, they're more likely poor villagers living a subsistence-based lifestyle. Does the concept of something being endangered even matter to them? Especially if they know that they could potentially sell its corpse for more money than they've probably earned in the past 5-10 years. We(meaning, us being able to sit in front of a computer comfortably, who have received a high quality education) tend to care because we understand species conservationism. We know that humans impact the environment in an immensely negative manner. Thousands of species have already gone extinct because we inadvertently hunted all of them, or reduced their numbers to an unsustainable rate of survival, or destroyed their habitats, etc. I'm not saying it's right from the standpoint of preserving the biodiversity of the Earth that these extremely endangered species get hunted for superstitious reasons and then have their body parts sold to be ground into a fine powder just because it[I] may [/I]give some guy a boner. It's an absolutely horrible notion that beautiful species are dying off because some people think horns and teeth are a substitute for viagra.

I don't blame them, if there's a bear in a suburban area it gets taken out quick. It's similar but since the tigers endangered it really should have been relocated. The villagers obviously couldn't do that themselves and no one else seemed to be helping.

[QUOTE=FingerSpazem;53180482]I don't blame them, if there's a bear in a suburban area it gets taken out quick. It's similar but since the tigers endangered it really should have been relocated. The villagers obviously couldn't do that themselves and no one else seemed to be helping.[/QUOTE] It [I]was[/I] going to be relocated. The killing was superfluous and motivated by superstition. [QUOTE=aznz888;53180470]words[/QUOTE] I don't see what you're trying to get at. Yes, they probably don't have a great understanding of conservation, but it's not like they should get a free pass for it.

[QUOTE=Splash Attack;53180507]It [I]was[/I] going to be relocated. The killing was superfluous and motivated by superstition. I don't see what you're trying to get at. Yes, they probably don't have a great understanding of conservation, but it's not like they should get a free pass for it.[/QUOTE] When did I say that they should get a free pass? I simply gave some ideas on how and why they would do it. You also say that it was going to be relocated as though you know the exact circumstances of the situation. I'm not claiming to be an expert on the politics of local Indonesian police, environmentalism, and culture, but what if this thing had been a threat and the villagers simply thought that the government wasn't acting fast enough? The article does mention that the tiger had been spotted around the village for several weeks. That's more than enough time to become unsettled by the potential of being mauled in your sleep by a giant predator. To me or you it's superfluous, but you also presumably don't live in a tropical jungle where the threat of being killed by a tiger [I]is[/I] something to consider.

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;53178913]They probably don't care They are just villagers in a very remote area, likely with poor access to education and low literacy rates, mostly living subsistence lifestyles. Tigers can be p. dangerous in these cases, tho the shapeshifter shit is weird.[/QUOTE] I don't know man. One dude in the OP pic is weilding a smartpone. I've lived and worked wit amerindians in the Guyanese Jungle. They know that they are killing endangered species. Tey just think that they belong to them since it is their land and they frankly just willfuly ignore all of that stuff the "outside world" is telling them.

They didn't kill it because it was in the village. They killed it outside the village. They poked it with a stick in the village and it ran off. Hard to say whether it needed to be killed or not to protect humans but regardless, killing any animal for superstitious reasons is a shame. This one tiger is a visible example of something that happens everyday in China and throughout Asia where people dry out sea horses and shit for medicine. Superstition is an anchor on civilization. We're gonna run out of stuff to kill one day. Then you'll have to get your bullshit superstitious kicks from somewhere else.

[QUOTE=OvB;53180581]Superstition is an anchor on civilization. We're gonna run out of stuff to kill one day. Then you'll have to get your bullshit superstitious kicks from somewhere else.[/QUOTE] yep, then you let your guard down and BAM, that's when the shapeshifting tigers strike

what if we ARE the shapeshifting tigers? and we just forgot how to turn back.

[QUOTE=genkaz92;53181229]what if we ARE the shapeshifting tigers? and we just forgot how to turn back.[/QUOTE] Please stop trying to legitimize furries.

Well, if one of them figures out how to shapeshift into a tiger, jokes on you.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;53178954]I cannot imagine there being any animal on this earth, endangered or not, that is worth more than a human's life.[/QUOTE] So you’re telling me that some dirty ass racoon that tears up the dumpster by my building is worth the same as a [I]human life.[/I] What?

[t]https://i.imgur.com/WJlkXUK.png[/t] What is it with the sudden hateboner for a critically endangered species? The tiger was killed out of superstition, not because it was an immediate threat. The reason for murdering that tiger is as bad as tigers getting murdered just so people can use their dicks or whatever in chinese medicine(which is superstition too, by the way) I am not going to explain basic ecology or the ramifications of killing a native predator, that should be common sense by now since I assume this was taught in elementary school science class to everyone, at least it was to me. Whether a human life is worth more than the life of a member of a critically endangered(less than 1000 of them worldwide, a major number in captivity) is debatable, but I am not a philosopher or that big on ethics.