Third largest American ISP takes away unlimited data from customers, sells it back for $50 extra - Sensationalist Headlines

[QUOTE=sgman91;52591394]Other than P2P downloading, I can't imagine how you guys could reach those numbers.[/QUOTE] Lots of Steam downloads and streaming. [t]http://i.imgur.com/ZZx3dFT.png[/t] There's 70 GB downloading right now.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;52591391]Yeah, I just don't understand how you can do that. I watch youtube for 3-4 hours a day, Netflix for 3-4, and I game a lot. My girlfriend is on Youtube pretty much all day long, and we never reach our 500 gb cap. What you people are doing to essentially flood the infrastructure is entirely beyond me[/QUOTE] Porn

Cox is pretty much the only ISP in my entire state and money is too tight around here currently to afford the extra 50$ a month for unlimited, oh well :v: guess ill just cut back on my youtube and see how that helps

Yeah literally the only ISP that reaches my house is Charter, monopolies like these need to be broken down so bad.

[QUOTE=FlakTheMighty;52591397]Lots of Steam downloads and streaming. [t]http://i.imgur.com/ZZx3dFT.png[/t] There's 70 GB downloading right now.[/QUOTE] What, are you continuously deleting and redownloading games?

[QUOTE=sgman91;52591455]What, are you continuously deleting and redownloading games?[/QUOTE] Really just data in general. [t]http://i.imgur.com/l2WgL9n.png[/t] I like to archive stuff and I [del]collect[/del] hoard data as well.

[QUOTE=FlakTheMighty;52591467]Really just data in general. [t]http://i.imgur.com/l2WgL9n.png[/t] I like to archive stuff and I [del]collect[/del] hoard data as well.[/QUOTE] so you're the reason why I have to pay for onedrive now

[QUOTE=Kiwi;52591466]Hey. I used to be on a 200gb cap and a 10gb one in 2011. I know what caps feel like. My post was to never dick wave.[/QUOTE] Haha my bad. I only replied because you mentioned the ever growing increase of file-sizes in media, I wasn't replying [I]to[/I] you. I originally wrote "here's a fun game for anybody who's never had a data cap" but that sounded kinda high-horsey so I changed it. [editline]19th August 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=sgman91;52591394]Other than P2P downloading, I can't imagine how you guys could reach those numbers.[/QUOTE] My friend lives in apartment with 3 under-20's. Do you know how many twitch/netflix streams are going at any given point?

[IMG]https://yasbit.ch/70142.png[/IMG] Eh. Not bad for someone who spends 90% of their free time online plus a wife and kid who stream Netflix on TV all day I suppose. Also Suddenlink's gigabit with no data cap for $100/mo is the tits /plug

[QUOTE=SuperHoboMan;52591162]Comcast did this same exact thing, with the same "Only X% of customers even use this much!!!" excuse along with the option to buy unlimited or risk being charged for overages. Stupid, greedy, anti-consumer bullshit. Anyone that watches a lot of youtube or twitch streams above 360p will hit that 1TB [I]easy[/I].[/QUOTE]ATT pulled this shit a while ago, the trick w as to bundle DTV. Since my household already had DTV and it would be cheaper than paying DSL and DTV seperately, we did so. We still have the monitor on our billing info, it's just X GB out of Unlimited GB. Household of four doing normal household internet stuff will average half a terabyte in two weeks. [img]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/273688983773511681/348584255628247042/unknown.png[/img] yyeeaahh. And that's a light month, on a 6 down DSL connection.

[QUOTE=jimbobjoe1234;52591154]Absolutely disgusting. I can't understand how people can be so greedy.[/QUOTE] It's why we need regulation towards ISPs, but our government has loads of ISP lobbyists and not enough people who understand as they're either too rich to care or lack the knowledge. Plus we won't see ISPs who do this be punished under a red government, hell it's more like they'll be rewarded. If you want to see any form of positive change, then vote in 2018 and beyond against those who enable as well as profit from this shit.

[QUOTE=Banned?;52591389]Me and two roomates, all game and use streams and download heavily either from Steam or a console, and we're over a TB in halfway into the month. Basically have no choice but to fucking pony up the extra $50/mo to Comcast. It's fucking horseshit.[/QUOTE] Ah, yes, Steam expects that you have unlimited bandwidth for patches as well. 30 GB is becoming skinny for a modern game now, and 5-10 GB "patches" aren't uncommon -- I think Doom 4 decided one day that it'd download all 50 GB over again. And all the other games that are still supported will take 2 GB here, 5 GB here, 1 GB there... and that's [i]just[/i] for computer games on Steam. For one person. The best part is that even with a baked-in 200-300% profit margin, you're [i]still[/i] paying way more than it actually costs the cable companies to maintain networks and provide service. It's all complete bullshit, and the corporate-run FCC loves it.

This also leads me to ask what happens if somebody else is responsible for exceeding your cap? Podcast Addict did this to my phone. Sapped my entire months data on the first day, in about 5 minutes. Not only was it set to never download without Wifi, no podcast is that big. The app glitched and was siphoning data and only stopped when I ran out of it. Maybe it didn't execute code that told it to stop checking for updates or something, idk... I was pissed. What do you do besides just deal with that? What if I wasn't pre-paid and got a giant fine from my phone provider? I've used this app for years and never had any problems with it, so it's not like some random shovelware...

I'm moving soon and my current provider is unlimited. I'll be swapping to Armstrong at the new place, and it's a TB of data. Worried about how close ll be getting

[QUOTE=Foda;52591493]so you're the reason why I have to pay for onedrive now[/QUOTE] I'd say yes but I've never used OneDrive or Amazon got backups. Also most of my stuff is local or on a server I rent.

This is really disgusting. I recall an article of someone who calculated how much it actually costs for an ISP to send this data through. Multiple, even. [url]https://broadbandnow.com/report/much-data-really-cost-isps/[/url] [url]http://business.financialpost.com/technology/how-much-does-bandwidth-actually-cost/wcm/c8b8fd6b-2a59-4aa3-988f-c97cb99950be[/url] [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;52591165]You guys have a cap at 1TB? My cap is at 500 gigs. Fucking Canada.[/QUOTE] Until very recently my cap was at 350GB before my speed got throttled to barely enough to watch 360p youtube without stuttering. Now it's also at around 500GB.

Virgin isn't the greatest ISP, but at worst they'll throttle my upload speeds for a few hours a day, if they detect you uploading shitloads between 6pm to 11pm, and then cancel it after that. I.E if I ever need to torrent stuff, I let it happen overnight or start it before I go to work. Seriously, caps on home broadband is shitty, but then you guys in the US get fucked over in terms of phone/internet access from what I've read on here.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;52591165]You guys have a cap at 1TB? My cap is at 500 gigs. Fucking Canada.[/QUOTE] I'm not sure where in Canada you live, but here in Lower Mainland BC, Shaw recently started offering its fastest internet tier with unlimited data. It's quite expensive though, like $105 per month for 150 Mb down and 15 Mb up.

[quote]Cox does not impose data caps in all of its territories, though it has been expanding its reach as of late. Back in June, Cox sent a note to customers in New Orleans telling them they would face a $10 fee for every 50GB above 1TB (1,024GB) they used each month. In the note, Cox claimed these data caps only affect around 2 percent of its customers.[/quote] *right now. When you're imposing it on the poorest of your customers in a very small area, yes you do only see 2% of your customers

[QUOTE=Kiwi;52591221]Caps are almost non existent here in New Zealand and I wished that the creators of the internet would stop going backwards. I know for a fact that that when I was paying for the internet we'd use an average of 2TB a month sometimes hitting 3. Media consumption is getting bigger there's no denying this. These caps at any capacity is garbage and only hurt the consumer whilst the isp gets more profits.[/QUOTE] Caps are non existent outside of america and australia to be honest

[QUOTE=Mr.Cookie;52591796]I'm not sure where in Canada you live, but here in Lower Mainland BC, Shaw recently started offering its fastest internet tier with unlimited data. It's quite expensive though, like $105 per month for 150 Mb down and 15 Mb up.[/QUOTE] Yeah I was aware of that the costs however seemed to be retardedly high for what it is.

[QUOTE=da space core;52591178]Screw American ISPs, they can do this since they have so many monopolies in many regions[/QUOTE] Cox has almost complete control of San Diego county. They're the only true cable provided that can be here. It's not a monopoly they say, it's a 'franchise agreement'. Which basically means they pay the city to keep competition out.

Worst part is, whats to stop them from raising the price even more later on? It's not like people have a choice between ISPs in many areas either.

[QUOTE=Mr.Cookie;52591796]I'm not sure where in Canada you live, but here in Lower Mainland BC, Shaw recently started offering its fastest internet tier with unlimited data. It's quite expensive though, like $105 per month for 150 Mb down and 15 Mb up.[/QUOTE] I'm already paying more then 150 bucks a month for internet that jumps between somewhat good (20MB down/3MB up) and this [IMG]https://puu.sh/vt965/57580b3354.png[/IMG] It's completely fucking random when it happens and completely fucks me over if I'm in the middle of playing any online games. Comcast is the worst fucking company I've ever had to deal with and the bastards are the only ISP in my area.

[QUOTE=LuckyLuke;52591377]I've just looked at my net usage statistics and the combined total for my household is around 8.5TB for the past 18 days :pudge:[/QUOTE] Wait does that include traffic between computers by chance, like a file server or so? That statistic would boil down to a constant 5.47MB/s (43.7Mb/s) of download over those 18days. Also from first page, Twitch only allows a max of 6MBit/s bitrate, with added audio stream of 160kbit max thats about 2.5-3GB/hour. Most streams are between 3-4MBit/s though so about half of that. I don't have a cap luckily, on good months I reach 1TB all by myself with two other high traffic users we can reach 3TB a month. Usually we stay between 1-2TB though. 150MBit is not the fastest but fast enough that a lot of things usually don't get stored as you can redownload a lot of games in a few minuites. Also heavy stream watchers here

Fuck ISP data caps, why are they starting to become a thing again in 2017, even Australia is getting rid of them, slowly, but surely. Insane that, after exchange rates, the fee to get unlimited data is the cost of my whole Internet connection, which is truly unlimited.

I'm not suprised its Cox. I didn't have a good first impression of them at work. While we don't have Cox in the Dakota's, SDN peers with them to get our MPLS link down to our Kansas location. Cox told SDN the link is up, we got our network up at said location, and lo and behold, no MPLS. Cox went "oh, I guess its not working. We'll look at it tomorrow morning". Note that they said they would look at it, not that it will be fixed tomorrow morning. It took them 3 days and put us behind schedule. If that's how they treat business tier customers, I can't imagine residential.

Not having unlimited internet at home is very unethical imo. It adds up so quickly, I play and download games and music, watch a shitton of YouTube and I alone can hit 1.5tb per month, and that's just me. My parent watch TV over the internet all the time, sometimes on the TV and the tablet at the same time, and in total this goes up to 3tb. Do those companies even count the amount of people using their internet in their calculations? They can't just say "so many people don't use more than so and so much GB" when many of those people only use it for basic stuff like emails and Facebook and don't live with more than one other person, or simply forget to connect to their WiFi so they blow away their mobile internet instead.

Meanwhile if I run a video above 480p I gotta wait 10 minutes for the vid to buffer before even attempting to watch it so data caps mean nothing to me... :v: but seriously what the actual fuck is up with this revival in data limits overseas are they that money hungry that they'll tank their reputation for a little more dosh? Goddamn

[QUOTE=Plaster;52592291]Not having unlimited internet at home is very unethical imo. It adds up so quickly, I play and download games and music, watch a shitton of YouTube and I alone can hit 1.5tb per month, and that's just me. My parent watch TV over the internet all the time, sometimes on the TV and the tablet at the same time, and in total this goes up to 3tb. Do those companies even count the amount of people using their internet in their calculations? They can't just say "so many people don't use more than so and so much GB" when many of those people only use it for basic stuff like emails and Facebook and don't live with more than one other person, or simply forget to connect to their WiFi so they blow away their mobile internet instead.[/QUOTE] I have no idea how they come up with these numbers. I easily use a couple hundred GB alone on average, and that's not including my roommates, who watch Netflix constantly. My parents watch Sling TV all the time, since its so much cheaper than satellite so that's easily a few hundred since they often let it run constantly. I'm just glad data caps haven't made their way up here yet.