Video Game Hall of Fame adds ‘Halo: Combat Evolved,’ 3 more - Sensationalist Headlines

[QUOTE=Hamsterjuice;52188094]how were donkey kong and street fighter 2 not already in the hall of fame[/QUOTE] They only induct like, six titles per year and it started only a few years ago.

[QUOTE=gk99;52188025]Maybe it's just because I'm really not a fan of the "wow look another hallway that looks [I]exactly[/I] the same" level design in chapters like (iirc) Assault on the Control Room and The Library but I really have to disagree. It gets better later in the series but man the original is rough in some areas. [editline]a[/editline] And I say this knowing damn well that as it stands it's up there as my favorite of the series[/QUOTE] Halo 1 reuses assets quite a lot because the campaign was made in only 5 months, iirc. Still, despite that, the first half of Halo 1 is fantastic (the second half is more of a mixed bag).

[QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;52187416]Well it was true at the time, until Half-Life 2 came a few years later and bulldozed consoles.[/QUOTE] I played through the HL2 games on console :)

Never really heard of this Hall of Fame for video games and, looking at what they picked and what did not, probably for a good reason.

[QUOTE=gk99;52187722]It's okay. Definitely a game series with a multiplayer focus.[/QUOTE] People say the same thing about Call of Duty. But just because the vocal majority of people only talk about the multiplayer, doesn't change the fact that 90% of the game's production went towards the campaign.

[QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;52187416]Well it was true at the time, until Half-Life 2 came a few years later and bulldozed consoles.[/QUOTE] It's more the fact that they're claiming that two fiddly little sticks can offer the same accuracy and response as a mouse. Is garbage

[QUOTE=Trogdor3;52188250]I'm surprised they're giving Halo all the credit After all, Halo has GoldenEye to thank for bringing FPS to consoles (or, at the very least, making FPS popular on consoles)[/QUOTE] Golden Eye was terrible. The control scheme for it was absolute dogshit. You, me, and everyone else had fun with it because its all we had. Halo kicked off FPS' on console, pretty much made the xbox popular and jumpstarted xbox live. Halo has had a much more profound effect on the gaming industry than Golden Eye. You cant just be the first to do it, you have to be the first to do it well.

[QUOTE=gk99;52187722]It's okay. Definitely a game series with a multiplayer focus.[/QUOTE] Despite what people are saying in response to this, yes Halo had a big multiplayer focus, doesn't really mean they didn't also focus on the single player though or put it on as an afterthought. The bungie team back then were fantastic at multiplayer design, balancing ect, it shows in a lot of the stuff they produced with a multiplayer element.

Strongly disagree, Doom should be up there instead of Halo. Halo mostly just set a trend for modern FPS design but it did not influence the genre as hard as Doom or any of the older classic shooters. Absolutely way less significant than the other games up there which are part of everyday pop culture. [editline]6th May 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=AkujiTheSniper;52186937]Also from the article Almost all of these should be in imo[/QUOTE] Definitely not, this isn't a top 10 best games display. SF2/Pokemon/Donkey Kong all created a revolution and were massively influential. Why is Portal there? It didn't do anything to the scale of the grand daddies of gaming.

[QUOTE=ashxu;52190319]Strongly disagree, Doom should be up there instead of Halo. [/QUOTE] It is. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/FdrVZNw.png[/IMG]

[QUOTE=ashxu;52190319]Absolutely way less significant than the other games up there which are part of everyday pop culture. [/QUOTE] [t]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cd/Halo_3_Nasdaq.jpg/800px-Halo_3_Nasdaq.jpg[/t] [editline]5th May 2017[/editline] Like, dude, come on, you have to be completely ignorant to say that Halo has not significantly affected every day pop culture.

[QUOTE=ashxu;52190319]Strongly disagree, Doom should be up there instead of Halo. Halo mostly just set a trend for modern FPS design but it did not influence the genre as hard as Doom or any of the older classic shooters. Absolutely way less significant than the other games up there which are part of everyday pop culture.[/QUOTE] I've heard way more people talk about Halo than Doom.

[QUOTE=ashxu;52190319]Strongly disagree, Doom should be up there instead of Halo. Halo mostly just set a trend for modern FPS design but it did not influence the genre as hard as Doom or any of the older classic shooters. Absolutely way less significant than the other games up there which are part of everyday pop culture. [editline]6th May 2017[/editline] Definitely not, this isn't a top 10 best games display. SF2/Pokemon/Donkey Kong all created a revolution and were massively influential. Why is Portal there? It didn't do anything to the scale of the grand daddies of gaming.[/QUOTE] Dude, Doom was already in there a couple years ago. And Halo ONLY influenced modern FPS design on consoles and online multiplayer in its sequels, propped up a completely new platform in the console market, made a cultural impact outside of the games industry and is has one of the most identifiable gaming characters of all time (Master Chief). And manage do so for about a decade. You have to be completely naive to think Halo doesn't deserve a spot because that's pretty noteworthy to me.

[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;52188216]Single player focus isnt just about gameplay or level design; story is a big factor. Halo's story, Halo games prior to Reach at least, had very good and interesting stories that tied together well. Plus, the first halo did a fantastic job of varying the gameplay with new enviroments, weapons, vehicles, and enemies throughout the game. If you thought Halo was a hallway sim, you didnt get very far into it.[/QUOTE] I mean I finished the game lol, I took the time to play 1 through ODST in order over a few days, I think I'd know that one chapter is pretty much entirely shooting your way through extremely similar (see: practically the same minus the occasional hole in the floor or something) similar flood filled hallways until you finish it. Story is certainly a big part of a singleplayer, but even bigger is the [i]game[/i] part of it, which does in fact include a lot of setpiece repetition, like it or not.

[QUOTE=The_J_Hat;52190789][t]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cd/Halo_3_Nasdaq.jpg/800px-Halo_3_Nasdaq.jpg[/t] [editline]5th May 2017[/editline] Like, dude, come on, you have to be completely ignorant to say that Halo has not significantly affected every day pop culture.[/QUOTE] Way less than pokemon/street fighter/donkey kong which are all mega franchises. [editline]6th May 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Demache;52190951]Dude, Doom was already in there a couple years ago. And Halo ONLY influenced modern FPS design on consoles and online multiplayer in its sequels, propped up a completely new platform in the console market, made a cultural impact outside of the games industry and is has one of the most identifiable gaming characters of all time (Master Chief). And manage do so for about a decade. You have to be completely naive to think Halo doesn't deserve a spot because that's pretty noteworthy to me.[/QUOTE] nope, it doesn't. Both SF2 and donkey kong are both fathers of arcade culture which is an entire thing itself and both as a series are both really old and still going strong for recognition. You're probably the naive one if you think ryu/ken/chun-li/donkey kong/mario/pokemon are on the same level as the chief. You could ask your dad or people in their 30s and they'd probably know who most of those are due to how insanely recognizable they are. You would only know who the chief is if you're a person who plays games after the xbox's launch. and halo didn't essentially invent an entire genre or culture, it just influenced a new era which isn't the same thing (and people have mentioned goldeneye was also another game that was incredibly popular with console gaming fps). Without Street Fighter 2 for instance the entire fighting game genre may not have existed as it is.

[QUOTE=Trogdor3;52188250]I'm surprised they're giving Halo all the credit After all, Halo has GoldenEye to thank for bringing FPS to consoles (or, at the very least, making FPS popular on consoles)[/QUOTE] I'd rather see Perfect Dark rather than Golden Eye, tbh

like seriously, you must be joshing if you think chief is on the same level of recognition as pokemon/mario/ryu

[QUOTE=ashxu;52192652]like seriously, you must be joshing if you think chief is on the same level of recognition as pokemon/mario/ryu[/QUOTE] Chief is massive. He's sold alongside pokemon in stores globally. He would be bigger than Mario and Ryu easy.

Besides, if you want to be specific, people associate Pokemon with Pikachu. Out of +600 'mons, Pikachu is the poster boy for the entire franchise Put it in another way: Nintendo's got Mario, Sega's got Sonic, Microsoft's got the Chief. And for a while, the Chief was [B]the[/B] icon of western gaming

[QUOTE=ashxu;52192637]Way less than pokemon/street fighter/donkey kong which are all mega franchises. [editline]6th May 2017[/editline] nope, it doesn't. Both SF2 and donkey kong are both fathers of arcade culture which is an entire thing itself and both as a series are both really old and still going strong for recognition. You're probably the naive one if you think ryu/ken/chun-li/donkey kong/mario/pokemon are on the same level as the chief. You could ask your dad or people in their 30s and they'd probably know who most of those are due to how insanely recognizable they are. You would only know who the chief is if you're a person who plays games after the xbox's launch. and halo didn't essentially invent an entire genre or culture, it just influenced a new era which isn't the same thing (and people have mentioned goldeneye was also another game that was incredibly popular with console gaming fps). Without Street Fighter 2 for instance the entire fighting game genre may not have existed as it is.[/QUOTE] You could maybe argue that if we were talking about Japan, where the Xbox never sold well, but in Western culture, Halo is huge. I'm not sure what age has to do with it. My father in his late 40s does know who Chief is and he hasn't played games since the late 80s. And the Xbox launched "only" nearly 16 years ago. That's a literal lifetime for some FPers. :v: The award isn't for inventing a genre or firsts. It's for being culturally significant. Inventing a genre is a factor, not the sole qualifier.

[QUOTE=ashxu;52192652]like seriously, you must be joshing if you think chief is on the same level of recognition as pokemon/mario/ryu[/QUOTE] Chief is way bigger than Ryu. You'll find way more people who know Master Chief than any Street Fighter character. And using Mario as an example is just a cheap-out because he's pretty much THE gaming mascot. Of fucking course the Chief can't scratch Mario. Halo basically sold the Xbox. It cemented the Xbox and Microsoft as big players and launched an entire generation of consoles, games, and fans. Doom may stand as the grandfather of FPS games but Halo popularized FPS games for the modern era. Halo is the modern Doom.

[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;52187949]Objectively untrue.[/QUOTE] Objectively absolutely true. Bungie spent more money on SP on 2 because they fucked up and basically made a tech demo first. Every version after that has had a larger team and more money spent on multiplayer; that is a fact, not an opinion. Perhaps you should wipe the nostalgia of your glasses, because Halo 2 and 3 had more than half the projected content cut from the game completely, including virtually everything involving the Arbiter in H3. Meanwhile not only did MP receive extra logistical support, but that support continued for [I]years[/I] after the launch.

[QUOTE=ashxu;52192652]like seriously, you must be joshing if you think chief is on the same level of recognition as pokemon/mario/ryu[/QUOTE] Yea he's probably bigger. The favored series you mentioned are [i]very[/i] popular, but most youth today will have recognize MC before Mario or Ash or some street fighter character. [editline]6th May 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=27X;52193315]Objectively absolutely true. Bungie spent more money on SP on 2 because they fucked up and basically made a tech demo first. Every version after that has had a larger team and more money spent on multiplayer; that is a fact, not an opinion. Perhaps you should wipe the nostalgia of your glasses, because Halo 2 and 3 had more than half the projected content cut from the game completely, including virtually everything involving the Arbiter in H3. Meanwhile not only did MP receive extra logistical support, but that support continued for [I]years[/I] after the launch.[/QUOTE] Yea thats why all the marketing materiel For Halo 2-3 was completely multiplayer focused and mentioned very little about the campaign. oh wait

The marketing material for pre launch was SP, all the marketing material post launch was MP and spanned two years after launch You're delusional if you think SP mattered as much as MP, and Staten laid it all out pretty much bare in his interviews on where the money went for the game's budget.

How about this as a distinction: the campaign was not a tacked on feature like in a Battlefield or Call of Duty game where you could breeze through a mission in about ten minutes. [editline]6th May 2017[/editline] Come for the singleplayer, stay for the multiplayer

[QUOTE=27X;52194672]The marketing material for pre launch was SP, all the marketing material post launch was MP and spanned two years after launch You're delusional if you think SP mattered as much as MP, and Staten laid it all out pretty much bare in his interviews on where the money went for the game's budget.[/QUOTE] Thats because marketing a SP game 2 years post launch is retarded. Theyre gonna market MP because it makes sense, plus all the new MP content they added.

[QUOTE=Amplar;52187159]Mentioning portal but not hl2 oh ok[/QUOTE] For better or worse, portal had much more of an impact outside of the strict "gamer" sphere. Even my parents know what portal is and have mostly completed it, but they have no idea what half life is. [editline]7th May 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Mentlegen;52193188]Chief is way bigger than Ryu. You'll find way more people who know Master Chief than any Street Fighter character. And using Mario as an example is just a cheap-out because he's pretty much THE gaming mascot. Of fucking course the Chief can't scratch Mario. Halo basically sold the Xbox. It cemented the Xbox and Microsoft as big players and launched an entire generation of consoles, games, and fans. Doom may stand as the grandfather of FPS games but Halo popularized FPS games for the modern era. Halo is the modern Doom.[/QUOTE] AFAIK it also set the standards for what a modern FPS [I]was[/I]. Unless I'm mistaken, it was the first to do the following in the FPS genre: Shields that regenerate over a health pool that doesn't Limited weapon capacity Aim assist for consoles Steal-able vehicles Grenades as a button, not as a weapon Melee attacks with weapons that are not melee weapons Console PVP multiplayer I'm sure that some of those are wrong but even if some are that's a fairly hefty collection of pervasive innovations for a single game.