• Porn star August Ames dies after backlash to controversial tweet
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The ideas she holds and prejudice she has towards gay people is terrible. But it takes another level of mental gymnastics for someone to call another out for terrible ideals then turn around and tell them to kill themselves. That doesn't make you a better person, it makes you a terrible personal as well. It really just shows the hatred you have in your own heart and makes you look like a pitiful and small. You're not going to garner respect for your cause nor are you going to make outsiders sympathetic to your cause. Anyone who can rub two brain cells together should call him out and tell him to be quiet. You can call someone out for shitty ideals while maintaining some level of respect and composure. Telling people to basically kill themselves just shows they cannot come up with a viable response and lack any thought process.
[QUOTE=Svinnik;52953278]she was most likely mentally ill, she doesnt deserve to die for being a shitty person[/QUOTE] Maybe. Hopefully. I'd hope anyone who'd do this over twitter bullies when most do or even merely consider it over traumatic events and devastating losses would be. This Jaxton guys a right asshole though [editline]6th December 2017[/editline] Say (rather think) "eh, owel" all you want but if you had a direct hand in it then Jesus Christ.
It would be one thing if gay porn stars, or all porn stars that aren't high billed, had different testing criteria or standards and she said she'd rather be 100% sure instead of 95% sure when it comes to her body, but then she went on to say she doesn't know what they do in their private lives, basically disparaging en entire group of people So backlash is pretty fair, but people like that Jax tard took it way too far
The only thing I dislike about the whole "they get tested the same amount" argument is that HIV can be undetectable for up to 6 months, or longer, at least from everything I've read (even with rapid testing), and statistically, men who have sex with men are at a greater risk of contracting HIV. While her thinking and approach were flawed, and I strongly disagree with it, I can understand how she came to think with such ignorance - that her chances of contracting HIV were greater if she had sex with a previously gay pornstar despite him receiving the same level of testing. She should have approached the situation with a greater level of tact and respect, but even so, the level of hate thrown her way was an extreme reaction to say the least, and the outcome was incredibly tragic.
Some are pointing out that this is kind of odd considering she has performed with actors who had already done crossover work [media]https://twitter.com/ItsMichaelVegas/status/938489260021129216[/media]
I wonder if people will still fap to her videos with this knowledge.
I will miss her ghost nipples.
[QUOTE=Aetna;52953512]The only thing I dislike about the whole "they get tested the same amount" argument is that HIV can be undetectable for up to 6 months, or longer, at least from everything I've read (even with rapid testing), and statistically, men who have sex with men are at a greater risk of contracting HIV. While her thinking and approach were flawed, and I strongly disagree with it, I can understand how she came to think with such ignorance - that her chances of contracting HIV were greater if she had sex with a previously gay pornstar despite him receiving the same level of testing. She should have approached the situation with a greater level of tact and respect, but even so, the level of hate thrown her way was an extreme reaction to say the least, and the outcome was incredibly tragic.[/QUOTE] I thought I read somewhere you couldn't transmit hiv for a while after you get it?
[QUOTE=Geos88;52953551]I wonder if people will still fap to her videos with this knowledge.[/QUOTE] Hasn't stopped people in the past.
[QUOTE=Megadave;52953582]I thought I read somewhere you couldn't transmit hiv for a while after you get it?[/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.catie.ca/en/pif/fall-2011/recently-infected-individuals-priority-hiv-prevention"]The first several days/weeks after infection are when you are at your highest risk of transmitting it to other people, because the virus is duplicating itself as rapidly as possible. It then slowly tapers over the course of several months until it reaches dormancy, where you're least likely to transmit it. So it's the reverse of what you're thinking.[/URL] Iirc, rapid testing can detect infection if the testing occurs within (9?) days of initial infection, the sooner the better. I believe pornstars use both rapid and standardized testing procedures, but if the actor were to have been infected, say, a month prior to the shoot, their infection may go undetected. I recall an interview with a female actress who contracted HIV during a shoot with two male actors, one of whom had had unprotected sex 2 days prior to the shoot, contracting HIV at that time. He infected both her, and the other male actor, despite having had negative tests. This may have lit the fire on the required usage of rapid testing around that time. [QUOTE=CATIE]The elevated viral load of someone recently infected with HIV is the main biological reason that they are more likely to transmit HIV to others at this time. The higher the viral load, the greater the risk is of transmitting HIV to others through unprotected sex. Researchers estimate that the risk of transmitting HIV to another person from one act of unprotected sex is 26 times higher during the first three months after infection than during the months and years that follow.[/QUOTE] This is generally the case with pretty much any virus. Our country really, really needs to brush up on sex-ed. [editline]7th December 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=UntouchedShadow;52953583]Hasn't stopped people in the past.[/QUOTE] Amber Rayne.
some context: gay pornstars operate under different rules than straight porn. they don't need to be tested for hiv and the only protection is condoms.
[QUOTE=BeardyDuck;52953637]some context: gay pornstars operate under different rules than straight porn. they don't need to be tested for hiv and the only protection is condoms.[/QUOTE] And then, as Sinn Sage points out in the quotes in the OP, before they are allowed to perform in a straight or crossover film, they are forced to go through the same testing as straight performers do. So that means fuck all, because if the actor had anything, they wouldn't be allowed to perform in the straight film.
[QUOTE=Gmod4ever;52953656]And then, as Sinn Sage points out in the quotes in the OP, before they are allowed to perform in a straight or crossover film, they are forced to go through the same testing as straight performers do. So that means fuck all, because if the actor had anything, they wouldn't be allowed to perform in the straight film.[/QUOTE] there's a window of negativity where a test will show you as negative, but you're carrying it. plus the test is taken ~14 days before a shoot, which can easily be within the window of negativity if you're getting off another shoot before it. like, there was an hiv scare back in 2013 AND in 2016 because of this exact reason.
Is encouraging someone to commit suicide a bannable offense on Twitter? This Jaxton guy seems worthy of getting the boot. I'm not surprised by the reaction though. Lots of loonies in that industry, from both sexes.
Why do some people always need to smack their gob like they're shanking someone? Insinuating that all gay people carry STDs is dumb but nobody deserves to be driven into suicide for having a shitty opinion. That Jaxton fellow is going to hell, where he belongs.
[QUOTE=Bertie;52953661]Is encouraging someone to commit suicide a bannable offense on Twitter? This Jaxton guy seems worthy of getting the boot. I'm not surprised by the reaction though. Lots of loonies in that industry, from both sexes.[/QUOTE] Normal people don't commit suicide after just a single day of angry twitter messages. Also, how often do people tell each other to kill themselves online? How often do people tell others to kill themselves in video games?
[QUOTE=aydin690;52953879]Normal people don't commit suicide after just a single day of angry twitter messages. Also, how often do people tell each other to kill themselves online? How often do people tell others to kill themselves in video games?[/QUOTE] Normal people don't and will never get thousands of angry messages telling you to kill yourself. We can't possibly imagine how thousands of people telling you to kill yourself would feel.
[QUOTE=BeardyDuck;52953660]there's a window of negativity where a test will show you as negative, but you're carrying it. plus the test is taken ~14 days before a shoot, which can easily be within the window of negativity if you're getting off another shoot before it. like, there was an hiv scare back in 2013 AND in 2016 because of this exact reason.[/QUOTE] This It can take 6 weeks after infection to get an accurate result from HIV testing.
[QUOTE=aydin690;52953879]Normal people don't commit suicide after just a single day of angry twitter messages. Also, how often do people tell each other to kill themselves online? How often do people tell others to kill themselves in video games?[/QUOTE] Jaxton Wheeler was not delivering sick bantz while owning noobs at a video game, he was genuinely encouraging a person to kill themselves and being a massive cunt about it even after she died. Fine on 4chan, but it's a bannable offense here and I don't see why it wouldn't be bannable on Twitter.
[QUOTE=Bertie;52953934]Jaxton Wheeler was not delivering sick bantz while owning noobs at a video game, he was genuinely encouraging a person to kill themselves and being a massive cunt about it even after she died. Fine on 4chan, but it's a bannable offense here and I don't see why it wouldn't be bannable on Twitter.[/QUOTE] Any famous person on twitter gets those on a daily basis. If i told you to kill yourself once and you actually did it, am i responsible for your actions?
[QUOTE=aydin690;52953957]Any famous person on twitter gets those on a daily basis. If i told you to kill yourself once and you actually did it, am i responsible for your actions?[/QUOTE] The ban is for saying it, not for her doing it (which we don't actually know yet, but it's probable). It should be grounds for a ban regardless of whether she killed herself or not. That's how I see it anyway, no reason for Twitter to tolerate such behavior.
[QUOTE=aydin690;52953957]Any famous person on twitter gets those on a daily basis. If i told you to kill yourself once and you actually did it, am i responsible for your actions?[/QUOTE] Luckily our law systems are developed further than simple "responsible/not responsible" and "Black/white" decisions.
[QUOTE=GunFox;52953240]I feel like I should feel bad for her or something, but I don't. She was a shitty person. Being dead just makes her a dead shitty person.[/QUOTE] She wasn't even homophobic! She didn't fuck the guy because gay porn actors aren't tested to the same standards. You're actively disrespecting the recently deceased over something you [B]obviously have not researched[/B], just so you can pat yourself on the back. "Good boy". Like, what is it with you people? Everything has to be "trigger" this or "offended" that. You're just looking for trouble like any other deplorable. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Shitpost" - Mezzokoko))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=Lime-alicious;52954106]She wasn't even homophobic! She didn't fuck the guy because gay porn actors aren't tested to the same standards. You're actively disrespecting the recently deceased over something you [B]obviously have not researched[/B], just so you can pat yourself on the back. "Good boy". Like, what is it with you people? Everything has to be "trigger" this or "offended" that. You're just looking for trouble like any other deplorable.[/QUOTE] Except they are tested when doing hetero porn too, like the guy was. You sound pretty triggered yerself lad.
[QUOTE=Crimor;52954126]Except they are tested when doing hetero porn too, like the guy was. You sound pretty triggered yerself lad.[/QUOTE] Not to the same standards. That's why the fuss was kicked up in the first place. Also going the "no, [i]ur[/i] mad bro!" route isn't going to accomplish anything for you.
[QUOTE=Lime-alicious;52954146]Not to the same standards. That's why the fuss was kicked up in the first place. Also going the "no, [i]ur[/i] mad bro!" route isn't going to accomplish anything for you.[/QUOTE] Any source for this cray insider knowledge about gay actors testing you seem to possess?
[QUOTE=Dom Pyroshark;52954155]Any source for this cray insider knowledge about gay actors testing you seem to possess?[/QUOTE] [b][url=https://www.thedailybeast.com/risky-business-or-none-of-your-business-gay-xxx-films-and-the-condom-question]Here is one of many.[/url][/b] [quote]The way testing, or sometimes lack there of, is done in the gay adult entertainment business is often entirely up to the company. Vice President of APAC (Adult Performer Advocacy Committee) and prominent gay performer, Conner Habib says, “Some studios require condoms and no test, others require testing and no condoms, and others require both. There are also a few studios that use nothing, but those are outliers.” This combination of protocols is unheard of on the straight side of the industry where performers are expected to have a negative HIV/STD test every fourteen days. [highlight]Which is why some consider crossovers (a man who performs in both gay and straight adult movies) risky business. In fact, some girls make it a point to put these guys on their “no” list.[/highlight][/quote] Even if that's bs and those porn stars are worrying over nothing, they are only considering their own safety when they say "no" to crossover actors, it's not out of homophobia. I'd feel pretty betrayed too if I told my agent "no crossover actors", and they went ahead and booked a scene with a crossover actor.
[QUOTE=Lime-alicious;52954106]She wasn't even homophobic! She didn't fuck the guy because gay porn actors aren't tested to the same standards. You're actively disrespecting the recently deceased over something you [B]obviously have not researched[/B], just so you can pat yourself on the back. "Good boy". Like, what is it with you people? Everything has to be "trigger" this or "offended" that. You're just looking for trouble like any other deplorable.[/QUOTE] Have you not read the thread? This is not about her decision, this is about being an ass about it. No one would'Ve cared if she didn't make a scene in the first place.
Fuck, that's really sad. She was really talented and super hot, and probably would've had a long and fruitful career in porn. Nevertheless, she died way too young.
[QUOTE=Kazumi;52954258]She was really talented and [B]super hot.[/B][/QUOTE] Before the injections though Not that I would know
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