Old School Runescape is Rioting over in-game Gay Pride Event - Sensationalist Headlines

if they're gonna make the game super accepting and PC, they should probably overhaul al kharid/desert areas. literally everyone is called "Ali" and it's the butt of a ton of jokes :v but yeah this entire thing is a fucking mess. I sure love getting home from work where everyone talked about hard hitting political issues all day, logging in to runescape, and getting even more of it. MMK and Leddit can go fuck themselves. Feels like a big virtue signalling grandstand form jagex, and a autistic "hue hue its ok guise its just a meemee to say kill all gays xdddddddddd" response from Leddit.

Its really about nothing, though i do think they shouldn't have made that poll because thats their number one feeding source. They made a official poll (was it? Think it was) voting if a Gay event should take place in OSRS and the large majority who voted, voted no. Now they are pissed since they ignored the poll. Also doesn't help that one of the most disliked mods in Runescape handles the community specifically for this event

[QUOTE=Sheer Visor;52323759]if they're gonna make the game super accepting and PC, they should probably overhaul al kharid/desert areas. literally everyone is called "Ali" and it's the butt of a ton of jokes :v but yeah this entire thing is a fucking mess. I sure love getting home from work where everyone talked about hard hitting political issues all day, logging in to runescape, and getting even more of it. MMK and Leddit can go fuck themselves. Feels like a [B]big virtue signalling grandstand[/B] form jagex, and a autistic "hue hue its ok guise its just a meemee to say kill all gays xdddddddddd" response from Leddit.[/QUOTE] they added a scarf

[QUOTE=KillRay;52323765]they added a scarf[/QUOTE] You're deliberately leaving out some key context here; 1: the nature of the event and what it contained wasn't announced until -after- the shitstorm had matured, it was just known as a "gay pride event" 2: during this time, MMK/wolf replied to [URL="http://imgur.com/EwBZGaQ.png"]very valid criticism[/URL] and basically shrugged it all off and implied that anyone that doesn't want the event ingame is a bigot - even if they just don't want the game to have political content at all. Jag ignoring and brushing it off helped escalate it a fuck ton. 3: The nature event was told to outside media -before- the playerbase a full 24 hours -after- it was announced and the shit storm started. Why didn't jagex nip it in the bud within a few hours and just go "its just a scarf"? Most people are chilling out now they know the nature of the event. Jagex has intervened in past shitstorms by providing evidence/context on controversies before. Multiple times. This time, they let it stew for 24 hours, and then went to the media before the playerbase. Why?

Ive never seen a community go as mental over something so silly nobody really cares about anyway. Then again, the core of the problem was that jagex did something the players didnt want and somehow mod wolf(?) thought it was a good idea to do it anyway and here we are.

[QUOTE=Sheer Visor;52323783]This time, they let it stew for 24 hours, and then went to the media before the playerbase. Why?[/QUOTE] Doesn't look like the osrs community is the one to consult about any pride related anything at all considering the thought of any pride event at all caused a shitstorm I'm of the opinion that if you can have a game anniversary event, a Christmas event, an Easter event and all other real world related events in your game, it can handle minor events for things like pride representation lol It's not some medieval realism simulator it's a super game-y game

[QUOTE=freaka;52323830]Ive never seen a community go as mental over something so silly nobody really cares about anyway.[/QUOTE] I've yet to see it mentioned in game, I'd be willing to bet that most players have no idea whats going on. It's pretty much just reddit.

[QUOTE=LNKFAN;52323433]take a wild fucking guess when blizzard announced one of the overwatch heroes is gay, there was a backlash. guess why the reveal changed nothing about the game, and yet[/QUOTE] You can at least justify that with people being salty over their OTP being invalid or that their waifu turns out to be gay, this is just kneejerk craziness.

[QUOTE=LNKFAN;52323433]take a wild fucking guess when blizzard announced one of the overwatch heroes is gay, there was a backlash. guess why the reveal changed nothing about the game, and yet[/QUOTE] People still whine about symmetra being autistic

[QUOTE=KillRay;52323838]Doesn't look like the osrs community is the one to consult about any pride related anything at all considering the thought of any pride event at all caused a shitstorm I'm of the opinion that if you can have a game anniversary event, a Christmas event, an Easter event and all other real world related events in your game, it can handle minor events for things like pride representation lol It's not some medieval realism simulator it's a super same-y game[/QUOTE] No one is arguing realism? Christmas doesn't bring a ugly political shit storm to the table. Pride does, as is evidenced by Leddit losing it's shit and over reacting. Christmas isn't a hot-button topic. Homsoexuality is. You really can't deny the difference here. Do you really think Christmas/Pride are on the same level politically and socially, especially in the USA? I want to log in to RS to a political shitstorm as much as I want a movie interrupted by a political shit storm.

Also I quit runescape when I took every measure to protect my account possible and it still got hacked twice and banned both times. The first time I was able to appeal. The second time was permanent and they've removed all ban ticket appeals because they actually believe their system fucking works at all

[QUOTE=Sheer Visor;52323860]No one is arguing realism? Christmas doesn't bring a ugly political shit storm to the table. Pride does, as is evidenced by Leddit losing it's shit and over reacting. Christmas isn't a hot-button topic. Homsoexuality is. You really can't deny the difference here. Do you really think Christmas/Pride are on the same level politically and socially, especially in the USA? I want to log in to RS to a political shitstorm as much as I want a movie interrupted by a political shit storm.[/QUOTE] If people who don't celebrate Christmas can accept and tolerate a Christmas event, people who aren't lgbt should be able to respect and tolerate an event for an optional cosmetic scarf, clearly not for them if they don't like it I still think the fact you called such a minor cosmetic virtue signalling telling enough [editline]7th June 2017[/editline] Even Christmas is political now since people get mad if you say happy holidays

[QUOTE=Xubs;52323867][URL="http://oldschoolrunescape.wikia.com/wiki/Big_Cats_%26_WWF"]And animal conservation isn't political?[/URL] Don't tell me for a second OSRS hasn't tackled social issues. Literally the only reason this is controversial is because its about gay people, nothing else. This is not out of character given precedence.[/QUOTE] Ah yes, the hot button topic of animal conservation , a topic that people fiercely argue for and against. You hear about people fighting against animal conservation attempts all the time in the news. Just like gay rights. Oh wait... No animal conservation isn't like that, and is pretty much one sided with everyone agreeing "yeah this is good". There wasn't an autistic riot a about WWF because literally who is against the WWF?

How do you think the OSRS community would react if the Christmas event was instead a Kwanzaa or Hanukkah event Sheer Visor

[QUOTE=KillRay;52323873] Even Christmas is political now since people get mad if you say happy holidays[/QUOTE] Slightly off-topic but I've literally never heard someone get mad at calling Christmas 'Christmas' but I do hear racist idiots saying 'oh you can't call it Christmas because of the Muslims now'. It just seems to be manufactured outrage.

[QUOTE=KillRay;52323873]I still think the fact you called such a minor cosmetic virtue signalling telling enough[/QUOTE] If you're going to reply to my posts without reading them there's really no point in carrying out this conversation. I've already explained that the nature of the event wasn't public until AFTER the community/Jagex argued/rioted with each other for 24 hours. The fact that it's a small cosmetic isn't virtue signalling. The fact that they announced it, and then broke the story to Vice that it's just a scarf BEFORE the playerbase, is virtue signalling. Why not quell the playerbase by talking to them directly as they have done in the past? Why have it break on Vice first as "haha these people are rioting autistically over a scarf" when they didn't even know what the event entailed? Now that the nature of the event is out, most of the community is laughing at the people enraged about it. [URL="https://i.redd.it/8knodprh672z.jpg"]This is on the FP of 2007scape for fucks sake.[/URL] They're laughing at these idiots.

[QUOTE=Sheer Visor;52323910]Now that the nature of the event is out, most of the community is laughing at the people enraged about it. [URL="https://i.redd.it/8knodprh672z.jpg"]This is on the FP of 2007scape for fucks sake.[/URL] They're laughing at these idiots.[/QUOTE] What you call virtue signaling, I call a questionable decision of messaging that leads to an opportunity for an idiot cull. Not everything is because of SJWs.

I don't understand the need to bring shit like gay pride into completely unrelated video games. I understand it even less how you'd expect the community to not take the piss out of the event.

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;52323930]I don't understand the need to bring shit like gay pride into completely unrelated video games. I understand it even less how you'd expect the community to not take the piss out of the event.[/QUOTE] Whats the list of things we can and cant have events for mr. Ganerumo

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;52323930]I don't understand the need to bring shit like gay pride into completely unrelated video games. I understand it even less how you'd expect the community to not take the piss out of the event.[/QUOTE]Good opportunity for an idiot cull tbh.

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;52323928]What you call virtue signaling, I call a questionable decision of messaging that leads to an opportunity for an idiot cull. Not everything is because of SJWs.[/QUOTE] I'm mostly concerned with how it was handled with regards of jagex and the media. Jagex has never been particularly good at connecting with it's players - they only ever really started talking to their players directly in like... 2011. This takes "questionable decision of messaging" to a new level though. They basically had 2 choices; Choice 1; Just tell the community it's a lame scarf at the first sign of unrest and let the controversy die a quiet, but drawn out death. At most it'd live on as an ironic meme in the community like the MMK/Emily favoritism thing. They've done this in the past, and it has worked. Choice 2: Wait 24 hours for it to get really nasty, tell Vice(????) of all people in an exclusive reveal that it's just a scarf, literally 1/10th the size of usual osrs events and barely noticeable, and really nothing to worry about or get hung up over. People thought this was going to be some huge shit. Jagex should seriously know how to handle heated controversies. The could have just "come clean" asap like they did last time. Yet for some reason they took the unprecedented move of withholding information from players and instead giving it to news website. The only possible reason i can think of for doing that is to deliberately make a scene. If MMK said word for word "guys its just a scarf lol" the subreddit would probably be full of "it's a scarf lmao" memes right now because that's how the OSRS community reacts to silly shit.

[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;52323933]Because bigots are everywhere and need to be taught that they have objectively wrong thoughts on human rights. See: Those people "taking the piss" out of the event aka those who are threatening people solely due to their sexuality. They only show we needed this event more than ever.[/QUOTE] Yeah sorry but I really don't see how video games are a good place to "teach" anyone about how wrong their thoughts are. Maybe it's just me but I like it better when games are escapism and don't try to insert real life problems into them because that kind of defeats the purpose of fucking playing video games to begin with.

[QUOTE=KillRay;52323948]Whats the list of things we can and cant have events for mr. Ganerumo[/QUOTE] Shit that's not pulling real life issues into video games because people tend to play video games to avoid those issues, not to be reminded of them. I don't like it when games I play decide to throw in "supportive" shit like pride events, like fuck off and let me play the video game without being reminded that there's people out there that want my skin for being attracted to other men.

Damn, I didn't think that Runescape had so many [URL="https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/6fg9ux/an_ingame_gay_pride_event_does_not_belong_in_the/"]bigots and homophobes[/URL]. Like, what is it with the misuse of the word "political"? It's simply a social event for people of the LGBT community and those who aren't to come together and celebrate by doing a simple quest.

[QUOTE=NoOneKnowsMe;52324010]Damn, I didn't think that Runescape had so many [URL="https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/6fg9ux/an_ingame_gay_pride_event_does_not_belong_in_the/"]bigots and homophobes[/URL]. Like, what is it with the misuse of the word "political"? It's simply a social event for people of the LGBT community and those who aren't to come together and celebrate by doing a simple quest.[/QUOTE] Whether you like it or not homosexuality was made political a long time ago and while I certainly wish it wasn't (ideally no one should give a shit what sex you're attracted to), the reality of things is different. I don't have any particular respect for people who dislike LGBT out of bigotry or anything of the sort, but I respect the fact they should have access to video game entertainment without shit getting political just as much as I should have access to the same entertainment without shit getting political.

[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;52324018]Then play a different game that doesn't reach out to the threatened gay community, since that hurts your delicate escapism.[/QUOTE] That's already what I'm doing, but that doesn't mean I can't criticize an event on a game I don't play. I'm pretty sure barely anyone here is actively playing OSRS and that's not stopping them from commenting on the problem.

All i can say is that i get why it upsets people but the way how they express themselves is just retarded.

[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;52324024]Then they can stop being bigots if they hate being bashed for it.[/QUOTE] My point is that these people should be allowed to be entertained by video games without being confronted over their thoughts or opinions or whatever else. Back when I tried playing World of Warcraft the whole trade chat was nothing but trump supporters circlejerking over each other (it was before the elections) and it was tiresome back then too. Video games shouldn't get political because they're meant to be escapism for so many people.

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;52324021]Whether you like it or not homosexuality was made political a long time ago and while I certainly wish it wasn't (ideally no one should give a shit what sex you're attracted to), the reality of things is different.[/QUOTE] Even more reasons to make an event like this. The people who are against it make it political, not those who implemented it. Blame the bigots.

[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;52324024]Then they can stop being bigots if they hate being bashed for it.[/QUOTE] Not wanting my tree-clicking simulator to be a political dumpster fire like the rest of the internet ever since the US elected President Cheeto = bigot?