[QUOTE=Rocâ„¢;52616541]I kind of don't get the whole privacy thing.
Why even care if someone is cooked up in an office listening in to your conversations about how you like feet a little too much? It's not like they're gonna present it to the world and say "everyone point and laugh!"
How sensitive would be whatever you'd be talking about?
If it revolves around the "what if a spy agency is monitoring me and someone with malicious intents gets a hold of it?" narrative though, I can see how that would be a problem.
I'd also get it if it was more about the "slippery slope" kind of thing.[/QUOTE]
I don't get how privacy has gone from being a sensible expectation to being something that you are supposed to simply give away because "you aren't doing anything ilegal right?".
You don't need a reason to want to have privacy, you are a human and you deserve it from the get go.
[QUOTE=eirexe;52616571]I don't get how privacy has gone from being a sensible expectation to being something that you are supposed to simply give away because "you aren't doing anything ilegal right?".
You don't need a reason to want to have privacy, you are a human and you deserve it from the get go.[/QUOTE]
It's a stupid reason to advertise to someone for three reasons.
1- No one is listening in on you, most likely, so why the hell is anyone paranoid to the point of sacrificing usability for something they probably will never even have in jeopardy is beyond me...
2- Privacy is dead, unless you drop every single electronic device you have, but thats more of an opinion
3- I see this as being secure up until the time when people find out its flaws and break through it
I get that privacy is an important thing. It obviously is.
But its ran so much into the ground that people make it sound like they are being heard 24/7 by evil corporations.
IMO, this phone is a nice little gimmick that will be useful for people who either:
can't be "trusted" with a smartphone without having a password stolen from them or taxed extra over unwanted costs
people who don't care about anything other than calling and texting and can deal with however a phone would handle more down the line
[QUOTE=Rocâ„¢;52616633]It's a stupid reason to advertise to someone for three reasons.
1- No one is listening in on you, most likely, so why the hell is anyone paranoid to the point of sacrificing usability for something they probably will never even have in jeopardy is beyond me...
2- Privacy is dead, unless you drop every single electronic device you have, but thats more of an opinion
3- I see this as being secure up until the time when people find out its flaws and break through it
I get that privacy is an important thing. It obviously is.
But its ran so much into the ground that people make it sound like they are being heard 24/7 by evil corporations.
IMO, this phone is a nice little gimmick that will be useful for people who either:
can't be "trusted" with a smartphone without having a password stolen from them or taxed extra over unwanted costs
people who don't care about anything other than calling and texting and can deal with however a phone would handle more down the line[/QUOTE]
1- This doesn't make sense, you are already being listened on, you say it like snowden's revelations weren't a thing or something.
2- Privacy being dead is admitting defeat, something I don't think anyone is willing to do, particularly with such an important thing.
3- No big deal, Linux can be patched, the point is not to protect from outsiders, it's to ensure the phone itself isn't the one doing the spying on the first place.
[QUOTE=Rocâ„¢;52616541]I kind of don't get the whole privacy thing.
Why even care if someone is cooked up in an office listening in to your conversations about how you like feet a little too much? It's not like they're gonna present it to the world and say "everyone point and laugh!"
How sensitive would be whatever you'd be talking about?
[B]If it revolves around the "what if a spy agency is monitoring me and someone with malicious intents gets a hold of it?" narrative though, I can see how that would be a problem.
I'd also get it if it was more about the "slippery slope" kind of thing.[/B][/QUOTE]
That's one of the main reasons why.
Have you read what Snowden and others have released? Governments already have the mechanisms in place to do it. And that's not even enough, governments are pushing for more and more. This hurts even more for people who live under oppressive regimes, whose governments will demand the same access, and will abuse it even harder.
It doesn't even have to be the government doing things maliciously, companies can use this data to fuck over their users. Amazon is one example, at one point, they tried changing prices for each customer based on what they THINK you'll be willing to pay. That is related to privacy, another issue this attempts to solve is freedom, of which the lack of has resulted in innumerable amounts of problems.
And there is just the basic principle of how human rights work. You don't have to use it all the time for it to be protected. You wouldn't be happy losing your right to vote because you decided to skip out an election.
[QUOTE=Rocâ„¢;52616541]I kind of don't get the whole privacy thing.
Why even care if someone is cooked up in an office listening in to your conversations about how you like feet a little too much? It's not like they're gonna present it to the world and say "everyone point and laugh!"
How sensitive would be whatever you'd be talking about?
If it revolves around the "what if a spy agency is monitoring me and someone with malicious intents gets a hold of it?" narrative though, I can see how that would be a problem.
I'd also get it if it was more about the "slippery slope" kind of thing.[/QUOTE]
It's important to care about because it preserves democracy. Right now, there are governments out there that won't let their citizens talk badly about them. That may not be an issue here in Norway for instance but if everyone cared about privacy it would help people in other countries as we all share technology.
It's also important for the future. We want to make sure that we are protected if our government becomes corrupt.
We're probably not doing anything illegal, but it's not only about us.
[QUOTE=LieutenantLeo;52611710]I don't understand the obsession with privacy really.[/QUOTE]
brb installing a webcam in your shower. I mean, it's not like you're dealing drugs or something in there, are you??
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