Walmart raises minimum wage to $11, promptly closes select Sam's Club stores without warning - Sensationalist Headlines

From what i've read on the walmart subreddit, they raised everyones wages to $11 but didnt raise the wages for employee's in departments already making $11/h. looks like i make just as much as a cashier now :v:

I get criticizing Walmart for the crap they try to pull, but this just doesn't seem to be one of those cases. Paying everyone for 60 days (12 full workweeks) is above and beyond what most employers, that I've seen, would do.

[QUOTE=sgman91;53044436]They are paying the laid off employees for 60 days and making them eligible for transfer. If that's scummy, then what do you expect them to do?[/QUOTE] No prior warning about what they planned to do is whats scummy, the 60 day paypack and "lol u can just transfer" comes across as a slap in the face.

[QUOTE=Reagy;53044451]No prior warning about what they planned to do is whats scummy, the 60 day paypack and "lol u can just transfer" comes across as a slap in the face.[/QUOTE] They are essentially giving them a 60 day (12 week) warning. How is this different from saying, "Hey, in 60 days you're going to lose your job, but don't even worry about coming down to work from now till then. We'll pay no matter what."

[QUOTE=sgman91;53044454]They are essentially giving them a 60 day (12 week) warning.[/QUOTE] Dude the only warning we got in our store was a piece of paper saying we are having a meeting in the morning. I only got this packet from the mail saying my store is closing in less then 2 weeks. Fuck off

[QUOTE=Reagy;53044451]No prior warning about what they planned to do is whats scummy, the 60 day paypack and "lol u can just transfer" comes across as a slap in the face.[/QUOTE] If they are getting paid after the fact than it doesn't really matter does it? If anything, you're getting paid just to find another job. Seems like an even better scenario than getting a 60 day warning whilst still employed. Since full-time employees would probably struggle to balance between continuing to work and job hunting.

[QUOTE=Vantes14;53044461]Dude the only warning we got in our store was a piece of paper saying we are having a meeting in the morning. I only got this packet from the mail saying my store is closing in less then 2 weeks. Fuck off[/QUOTE] ... go talk to your manager and see if the 60 days of pay applies to you? If not, then come back and tell us why. If so, then you'll be getting paid for at least 10 weeks after the store closes.

will these actions effect other entry level job companies such as Mcdonalds?

[QUOTE=Shirt.;53044470]will these actions effect other entry level job companies such as Mcdonalds?[/QUOTE] This isn't a law, it only affects Walmart employees.

[QUOTE=Keychain;53044462]If they are getting paid after the fact than it doesn't really matter does it? If anything, you're getting paid just to find another job. Seems like an even better scenario than getting a 60 day warning whilst still employed. Since full-time employees would probably struggle to balance between continuing to work and job hunting.[/QUOTE] Do you know how much more difficult it makes actually getting another job, if you don't actually have one currently going? Potential employers really do like to look over the big details and they'll just see a date on your application that was recent and [I]they will make assumptions[/I] without even looking into it, you will be amazed how often you end up at the bottom of the pile compared to someone else who is currently working but sent in an application for the same job. You not working, regardless of the situation looks negative to an employer. It sounds like bullshit but it really isn't, I've seen managers pull this trash when going through applications, anyone who isn't working or isn't in education? Bottom of the pile or in the bin. Maybe I'm just too used to being in a country with actual laws that protect its workers, if a place is going to close here it requires prior warning.

Yeah fair enough. Shouldn't ever underestimate how long it can take to find another job.

[QUOTE=Demache;53044475]This isn't a law, it only affects Walmart employees.[/QUOTE] its not a question of law. When a bottom of the barrel company raises the floor will other companies with similar business models do the same?

[QUOTE=sgman91;53044464]... go talk to your manager and see if the 60 days of pay applies to you? If not, then come back and tell us why. If so, then you'll be getting paid for at least 10 weeks after the store closes.[/QUOTE] I can ask tomorrow, I work tomorrow night. Too damn tired because my mom woke me up when I got out of work.

[QUOTE=sgman91;53044368]As I'm learning more and more, Business Insider is a horrible source. They have this bad habit of taking articles from other sources, leaving out important parts, and sensationalizing others. If you follow BI's links to the real sources, you'll see that Walmart is paying everyone who got laid off for 60 more days and that they are all eligible to transfer to other stores. ([URL]http://www.khou.com/news/local/multiple-sams-clubs-close-without-notice-in-houston-across-nation/507151005?sdkjhsdks[/URL])[/QUOTE] If this is true, which I don't really have a reason to doubt(?) then this is being handled well as far as I can tell. [editline]11th January 2018[/editline] I mean it sucks but I'm pretty sure that depending on your contract, this would be legal in the most worker-friendly places in the world.

[QUOTE=Reagy;53044482]Do you know how much more difficult it makes actually getting another job, if you don't actually have one currently going? Potential employers really do like to look over the big details and they'll just see a date on your application that was recent and [I]they will make assumptions[/I] without even looking into it, you will be amazed how often you end up at the bottom of the pile compared to someone else who is currently working but sent in an application for the same job. You not working, regardless of the situation looks negative to an employer. It sounds like bullshit but it really isn't, I've seen managers pull this trash when going through applications, anyone who isn't working or isn't in education? Bottom of the pile or in the bin. Maybe I'm just too used to being in a country with actual laws that protect its workers, if a place is going to close here it requires prior warning.[/QUOTE] No employer is going to care if you state that you recently lost your previous job due to the store closing.

[QUOTE=TestECull;53044427]19 bucks an hour for TLE slavery? I'd.....probably pick up the vest-of-shame again if they'd pay me that. Well, and give me any OT I got. And, hell, 17.60/hr for meat department? That's where I was when I left WM and I was only getting 11.50... I'd probably force their hand on the OT, too, by being 'Ok, look, I'm not going to leave 3 hours early every end-of-work-week just so you don't have to pay out more than 40 hours. You want this shit done before I leave you're gonna have to give me the time-and-a-half I rightfully earn. If you don't want to do that I'm leaving at my scheduled leave time every night regardless of how done I actually am'.[/QUOTE] That walmart right now is giving lots of OT because theyre so poorly staffed. But the reason they're so poorly staffed is because the job market in Williston has a lot of high paying entry level jobs in the oil field and not enough people to fill those positions. Why work in TLE for $20/hr when you can go pipefit for $35/hr with unlimited OT.

[QUOTE=Kiwi;53044824]But employers do care about your previous experiences including the job that several Sams Club workers just lost. They want to know what you can do, what you’ve done and some even ask why you left in my experience.[/QUOTE] Yes, of course. My point is that no one is going to hold you losing your job because of a recent store closure against you. You still have your work experience on your resume, and if you're smart, you'll have a recommendation letter from your manager and permission to use them as a reference. I doubt an extra few weeks of work experience would be the difference between getting another job and not getting another job. Hell, the extra time to look for another job is probably more valuable anyway.

[QUOTE=Kiwi;53044824]But employers do care about your previous experiences including the job that several Sams Club workers just lost. They want to know what you can do, what you’ve done and some even ask why you left in my experience.[/QUOTE] That is something they could potentially ask at a job interview indeed, but saying the store closed is a perfectly valid reason.

Those wages are intense. I live in a lower-class city. Walmart here however pays $20+/hr and offers full coverage benefits.

[QUOTE=Blazyd;53044269]Depends what kind of work contract you signed when you got hired. A lot of jobs nowadays are "at will" which means you can be fired/terminated at any time for any reason.[/QUOTE] I never ever ever want to work in the US, this sounds so horrible.

[QUOTE=Killuah;53044930]I never ever ever want to work in the US, this sounds so horrible.[/QUOTE] Please don't make stereotypical assumptions based on a few anecdotes. If you're a semi-decent employee, there's basically a zero percent chance of getting fired with no warning.

[QUOTE=sgman91;53044944]Please don't make stereotypical assumptions based on a few anecdotes. If you're a semi-decent employee, there's basically a zero percent chance of getting fired with no warning.[/QUOTE] But at will states give that ability and it is abused. Anecdotes or not, there are uses of that ability that are unfair. It's not an incredible step, or even really a big step for a government to not have that policy in place.

Walmart is a shitty company to work for, I used to work for them for almost 3 years until I got fed up with all the dumb bullshit they keep doing to make our jobs difficult (I was CAP 2, truck unloaders and shelf stockers). They add all sorts of processes you have to do to make things more difficult, stretch us out more, give us more things we have to do and then bitch us out every day wondering why we don't get every fucking thing done. One day I just got so sick of it and walked out.

[QUOTE=Blade_Raider;53044909]Those wages are intense. I live in a lower-class city. Walmart here however pays $20+/hr and offers full coverage benefits.[/QUOTE] What lower class city has a walmart offering $20hr thats not a salaried management job.

[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;53044821]That walmart right now is giving lots of OT because theyre so poorly staffed. [/quote] The walmart I worked at would tell you to fuck off early on the last day of your workweek if you accrued >40hrs. Coincidentally, it was by the exact amount that you crossed 40h. And they'd write you up if you forced the issue enough times. When pressed, store management just passed the buck, said it came from Corporate. What's really funny is my WM is also really heavily understaffed. Skeleton crew. [I]By design.[/I] The front end is what's the most unstaffed, they're relying so heavily on selfchecks at my local store that they only have 4-6 human cashiers on hand even during peak hours. I'm pretty sure third shift, at this point, only has three cashiers in total, one in Electronics, one manning the self-checks, and one that's doing double duty as a door greeter/cart pusher. I think the only time in the past 5 years I've ever seen the frontend fully staffed has been black friday. It's not hard to tell the store's understaffed, either, shelves remain empty and un-zoned 24/7/365 and you're hard pressed to find someone in the vest-of-shame if you need them(For example, getting an ink cartridge or a box of .22LR). Some evenings I was the only motherfucker in the Meat Department from 3pm till close of the department, and that wasn't uncommon. We only had 5-6 bodies in total and most of them worked first shift. [quote]But the reason they're so poorly staffed is because the job market in Williston has a lot of high paying entry level jobs in the oil field and not enough people to fill those positions. Why work in TLE for $20/hr when you can go pipefit for $35/hr with unlimited OT.[/QUOTE] Hmm. Let's see. Safer, for one. More secure. And then there's the convenience of being able to clock out and zip straight out onto the sales floor for a few odds 'n ends. As much as I fucking hated working retail, it did have a couple of perks. And one of those was not having to waste fuel and time driving across town/stopping on the way home to pick anything up from the store. Or not having to drive anywhere for lunch. [editline]11th January 2018[/editline] [QUOTE=Killuah;53044930]I never ever ever want to work in the US, this sounds so horrible.[/QUOTE] It's not that bad. While employers can terminate an employee at any time for any reason, they seldom do. IT's a pain in the dick to find replacement staff and often costs the company a small fortune(I found out when I hired onto Goodyear that it costs them about 4,500 dollars to hire on a new tech at a commercial tire store!). That, and this country is ridiculously litigious, so sending someone out the door for no good reason may be legal but it will almost invariably end up in a suit sooner or later. While, legally, they can tell you to fuck off for no other reason than they're in a foul mood, they won't actually do so. If they want you to leave they'll either wait for something they can justify a termination for, or they'll do everything in their power to make you hate your job to the point [I]you[/I] terminate the employment.

[QUOTE=Vantes14;53044342]Actually funny enough there's a Walmart like 2 feet away. But I think I'm done working with Walmart for a while, and you're encouraged to work at a nearby Walmart.[/QUOTE] Sometimes they are right next to each other and share a parking lot. This got me into trouble once when I used to do fire alarm inspections. We'd get an address sent to us, drive to it, put the store's alarms into test mode so the fire department wouldn't get a call, then set off the fire alarms to make sure they worked. Except I went into Wal-Mart when the call was for Sam's Club, and that was the store that had been put into test. The store manager wasn't exactly happy when the fire department showed up, or the following week when it was actually time to inspect her store. (They were both around Christmas, when they were at their busiest and didn't want to have to deal with us)

[QUOTE=ZombieDawgs;53044353]Remember Walmart is literally at the top of the Fortune 500 and still pulls this shit.[/QUOTE] The part that I find really annoying about companies is that they could treat their workers well with reasonable hours, pay, and expectations, and probably still make absolutely ludicrous profit margins. But they don't, because you need even more money for the endless black hole of making more money for the sake of more money.

[QUOTE=Reds;53045170]The part that I find really annoying about companies is that they could treat their workers well with reasonable hours, pay, and expectations, and probably still make absolutely ludicrous profit margins. But they don't, because you need even more money for the endless black hole of making more money for the sake of more money.[/QUOTE] It's stupid too because you'd think to some extent having happy, well-compensated employees would have a direct positive impact on your business. I'd rather be in that sort of store than a dreary messy store with employees who clearly have had enough shit.

[QUOTE=Protocol7;53045213]It's stupid too because you'd think to some extent having happy, well-compensated employees would have a direct positive impact on your business. I'd rather be in that sort of store than a dreary messy store with employees who clearly have had enough shit.[/QUOTE] They just typically don't give a shit, or they are blind. Either way, it's just a fact of life in retail that it's gonna suck bad for the employees unfortunately. You get overworked, have to deal with rude people half the time, and management is insane.

[QUOTE=Keychain;53044462]If they are getting paid after the fact than it doesn't really matter does it? If anything, you're getting paid just to find another job. Seems like an even better scenario than getting a 60 day warning whilst still employed. Since full-time employees would probably struggle to balance between continuing to work and job hunting.[/QUOTE] They're at best making just a little over minimum wage, which puts them squarely below 30,000$/year coming straight out of christmas where they are very likely to have racked up at least 1000$ in debt, and they're probably living just above the poverty line and now the rug has been pulled out from under them. Also funny enough, if they were recieving medicaid in say states like Indiana, they will also now be forced to find ~something~ and devote 20 hours a week to it because fuck the poor, arbitrary work requirements just got approved by Trump and Pence. But hey, they got two months to put the pieces back together, hopefully they also can collect unemployment, depending on their state that severance package can affect their eligibility [editline]11th January 2018[/editline] [QUOTE=PaChIrA;53045239]They just typically don't give a shit, or they are blind. Either way, it's just a fact of life in retail that it's gonna suck bad for the employees unfortunately. You get overworked, have to deal with rude people half the time, and management is insane.[/QUOTE] The other dumb part is that all the other bulk clubs have significantly higher pay because they are not just providing goods, but also a service and people have higher expectations when they have to pay to enter.