Trayvon Martin awarded posthumous bachelor's degree in aeronautical science from Florida university - Sensationalist Headlines

HE WAS A GOOD BOY [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Shitpost / Memeshit" - Big Dumb American))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=orcywoo6;52186625]HE WAS A GOOD BOY[/QUOTE] haha! /pol/ memes!

[QUOTE=Taepodong-2;52186186]Yeah whatever if they want to give him an posthumous degree that's fine and all. But why in aeronautical science of all things?[/QUOTE] You know what they say. Shoot for the stars.

This is a disgusting, transparent attempt to latch onto a controversy in an effort to get the school publicity. What an idiotic thing to do.

I believe posthumous awards and prizes are meant for recognizing merit and qualification. This isn't an award or a prize though, so it hardly matters that he wasn't actually qualified for it.

Why would you do this? All you've effectively done is completely discredit anyone who was taking the course and/or has a degree in aeronautical science. What a completely stupid move on the university's behalf. I know the dude's dead, and it's not like he's going to be able to do anything to it, but it's not as though he contributed anything to the field and/or even attended the university.

I dont know whats more retarded. the fact this happened, or the fact someone thinks the general population wont see through this bs popularity attempt.

Fuck me, this happened in 2012? 5 years. I feel like life's just slipping by

Why don't we give all the dead criminals of minorities posthumous degrees? Bam, I solved the underrepresentation of minorities in higher education.

[QUOTE=Ithon;52185930]remember it's not applying yourself to a better person, it's getting enough attention to be used as a talking point in a narrative representing something you weren't in the end. kid's it's okay to act violent in conflict over cold medicine and Arizona fruit punch.[/QUOTE] Anybody who chases me down with a gun in the dark deserves to get their head bashed in. If it was a black guy attacking a white kid, Martin would have been the self-defense hero.

[QUOTE=Anti Christ;52186007]Good. He absolutely deserved it.[/QUOTE] He already recieved a metal or two

[QUOTE=usaokay;52186105]Oh no. How am I supposed to compete for a degree against a dead person?[/QUOTE] First the Mexicans came and took our jobs. Now dead people are too? This is an outrage.

some of you are kind of treating this like his bachelor's even means anything anymore besides a memory for his family who [I]wanted[/I] him to go to college. and to be incredibly frank, that's something many black families always want to see from their children, like many families in general a BA from a college that understands how it must feel to lose someone with ambitions to stupidity must mean everything to his family, why's it got to be about PR? why do you think your degree is at stake? (as if it's not already growing useless lol)

A dead person got a degree before I did, I gotta step my game up.

[QUOTE=WillerinV1.02;52185929]If it looks good for PR and it makes people feel good, why not?[/QUOTE] Because theyre giving a degree to a dead teenager who tried to kill a man, or at least was beating him, simply because of his ethnicity. Its so cheap and blatant pandering. [editline]5th May 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=srobins;52186926]Anybody who chases me down with a gun in the dark deserves to get their head bashed in. If it was a black guy attacking a white kid, Martin would have been the self-defense hero.[/QUOTE] Thats not how self defense works. Btw, the guy that Martin was on top of beating wasnt white, hes Latino. Zimmerman was being a racist ass hole but that doesnt justify beating him.

[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;52187958]Thats not how self defense works. Btw, the guy that Martin was on top of beating wasnt white, hes Latino. Zimmerman was being a racist ass hole but that doesnt justify beating him.[/QUOTE] You're right, apparently the way self defense works is that a grown man gets to chase down a teenager in the middle of the night, start a confrontation and then shoot him when he starts getting his ass kicked.

[QUOTE=usenet;52187697]some of you are kind of treating this like his bachelor's even means anything anymore besides a memory for his family who [I]wanted[/I] him to go to college. and to be incredibly frank, that's something many black families always want to see from their children, like many families in general a BA from a college that understands how it must feel to lose someone with ambitions to stupidity must mean everything to his family, why's it got to be about PR? why do you think your degree is at stake? (as if it's not already growing useless lol)[/QUOTE] You don't comfort a family with a free degree. It has absolutely zero legitimacy. It doesn't actually mean anything beyond some vague sense of thinking his death was an injustice.

[QUOTE=srobins;52188016]You're right, apparently the way self defense works is that a grown man gets to chase down a teenager in the middle of the night, start a confrontation and then shoot him when he starts getting his ass kicked.[/QUOTE] Yeah and its totally okay to beat the shit out of someone because they talked to you.

[QUOTE=srobins;52188016]You're right, apparently the way self defense works is that a grown man gets to chase down a teenager in the middle of the night, start a confrontation and then shoot him when he starts getting his ass kicked.[/QUOTE] I like how you act like its reasonable to violently assault someone for running up to and confronting a person (it's illegal to assault people by the way) and then follow it up by acting like it's unreasonable to protect yourself from someone beating the shit out of you (it's legal to defend yourself from violence by the way) Don't get me wrong, I think both parties in this case are morons who easily could've prevented things from escalating, but technically Zimmerman committed no provable crimes in this case. Which is why he wasn't convicted, unless you are somehow aware of facts that prove a miscarriage of justice happened.

[QUOTE=duckmaster;52188241]Yeah and its totally okay to beat the shit out of someone because they talked to you.[/QUOTE] Sorry, was there ever any actual evidence that Martin was the one who started the confrontation?

WHy the hell would you award a guy who's been dead for 5 years an honorary Bachelors Degree, what sense does that make.

[QUOTE=GhillieBacca;52186412]He was aspiring to fly high with his purple drank.[/QUOTE] There was no evidence that he was intoxicated on anything other than marijuana, which could have been in his system for weeks. The idea that he was using Arizona tea and Skittles for lean was [I]entirely fabricated[/I] - there has been no evidence of it whatsoever. The autopsy found no drugs but marijuana in his system. The texts mentioned nothing other than weed. The shit that was pasted here years ago about that was 100% speculation and there has been literally zero evidence that he was planning on (or taking) lean. The "Trayvon was just buying drugs to do lean" is irrelevant anyways. He [I]ran away[/I] from the dude, who pursued when the dispatcher specifically told him that he didn't need to pursue him. [editline]5th May 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=srobins;52188322]Sorry, was there ever any actual evidence that Martin was the one who started the confrontation?[/QUOTE] No - it's actually impossible to know who started it, which is why Zimmerman got off. The argument is more about how whether Zimmerman was in the wrong for pursuing him in the first place - there is no evidence in either direction to know who started the confrontation. Martin ran away, Zimmerman pursued, and then that's all we know until Martin was dead and Zimmerman was beaten up. He wasn't charged because there was no proof he instigated.

Giving a dead guy a free degree is pretty shitty honestly. Not only is it a blatant PR move, it doesn't do anything. They could've at least, I dunno, started a Trayvon Martin Memorial Scholarship to give free education to a disadvantaged kid or something. y'know, a thing that would actually help someone instead of just make the school look good for doing effectively nothing.

[QUOTE=Mio Akiyama;52188347]WHy the hell would you award a guy who's been dead for 5 years an honorary Bachelors Degree, what sense does that make.[/QUOTE] How the hell else is he gonna fly to heaven?

[QUOTE=sgman91;52188225]You don't comfort a family with a free degree. It has absolutely zero legitimacy. It doesn't actually mean anything beyond some vague sense of thinking his death was an injustice.[/QUOTE] His family is already under the belief that his death was an absolute injustice, a posthumous degree if anything is just the icing on their cake. it's legitimacy goes as far as it being a piece of paper with a message behind it. You think he's going to get a posthumous job with it? [QUOTE=.Isak.;52188503]The "Trayvon was just buying drugs to do lean" is irrelevant anyways. He [I]ran away[/I] from the dude, who pursued when the dispatcher specifically told him that he didn't need to pursue him.[/QUOTE] I'm actually in a bit of shock that "Trayvon was just buying drugs to do lean" is still a (false) outline that people still use against him as if assaulting someone wasn't enough of a "They’re no angel" story and what kind of baskin robbins shit is arizona iced tea and skittles with cough syrup

Why not just start a program to give prisoners or delinquents access to a reformative high school/college education in his name or something? [editline]5th May 2017[/editline] I had a falling out with my old school for personal reasons and ended up finishing my diploma at a free high school for "adults" funded by Goodwill. There were plenty of normal people, had to leave school due to work, having kids too early, etc. but also a few felons and troubled youths getting their lives back together. It was an incredible place. The staff also follows up on the people and tries to find them jobs/get them enrolled into Ivy Tech. It'd be interesting if well-behaved people in prison could get access to these programs from within on their sentence time. [editline]5th May 2017[/editline] Sure there were troublemakers here and there at the place, but they usually got expelled and sometimes back into legal trouble at the same time (drug dealing, theft, property destruction) but those people weren't there on their own will [editline]5th May 2017[/editline] Of course, I think there may need to be a bit more work on expanding such systems to more places before offering it to people still in jail. Not everyone has the opportunities, and I'd think it unfair if someone got crushed by debt while a jailbird got a ride

For the most part, I agree with people here - establishing an honorary scholarship for disadvantaged youth would be a much better symbolic move than an honorary degree. But it's an honorary degree for a dead kid. It's a symbolic gesture. It has zero effect on anybody, other than making the family feel better. Getting upset about granting an honorary degree to a dead person is about as petty as you can get. LIVING famous people get more honorary degrees than people like Martin, and from significantly more prestigious universities. Oprah has FOUR honorary DOCTORATES, including one from Harvard. Honorary degrees are [I]meaningless[/I]. It's more honorable to get a key to the city. It's a symbolic gesture and impacts none of us in any way whatsoever.

[QUOTE=srobins;52188016]You're right, apparently the way self defense works is that a grown man gets to chase down a teenager in the middle of the night, start a confrontation and then shoot him when he starts getting his ass kicked.[/QUOTE] Yea thats actually exactly how it works. Martin was physically assaulting Zimmerman and put him in fear for his life. Zimmerman rightly defended himself. Yea Zimmerman shouldnt have followed Martin but maybe Martin shouldn't have responded to a verbal confrontation with violence. [editline]5th May 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=srobins;52188322]Sorry, was there ever any actual evidence that Martin was the one who started the confrontation?[/QUOTE] Thats actually not really relevant. Bottom line, Trayvon was killed while straddling Zimmerman. He was slamming Zimmermans head into the pavement when Zimmerman pulled his pistol and shot him. Zimmerman verbally confronted Trayvon. Trayvon responded to this verbal confrontation by assaulting Zimmerman. Who is the poorly adjusted one in this situation?

[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;52189379]Yea thats actually exactly how it works. Martin was physically assaulting Zimmerman and put him in fear for his life. Zimmerman rightly defended himself. Yea Zimmerman shouldnt have followed Martin but maybe Martin shouldn't have responded to a verbal confrontation with violence. [editline]5th May 2017[/editline] Thats actually not really relevant. Bottom line, Trayvon was killed while straddling Zimmerman. He was slamming Zimmermans head into the pavement when Zimmerman pulled his pistol and shot him. Zimmerman verbally confronted Trayvon. Trayvon responded to this verbal confrontation by assaulting Zimmerman. Who is the poorly adjusted one in this situation?[/QUOTE] So Zimmerman (anger issues, armed, hero cop fantasies, racist tweets) is pursuing Martin despite being told not to by the police. Zimmerman finds and confronts Martin. Martin (smaller than Zimmerman, not armed, fleeing) then somehow floors Zimmerman (larger, armed, chasing). Sounds legit. /s

Lmao what Trayvon Martin was 5'11'' and Zimmerman is 5'7'' And if I remember correctly as well. Zimmerman was out of shape at the time. Trayvon being smaller my ass