Model Arvida Byström gets rape threats after an advert featured her hairy legs
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I don't understand why there is so much hostility against this. Why are some people keen to jump to the gun to say that it's bullshit? Is it offensive? Why do they bring political leaning into it?
Bringing muslims into this is ridiculous, because the muslim population are well aware of extremists and do their best to try and thwart it, in the UK at least they are constantly in contact with the British police to give them as much information as they can about anyone at risk of being radicalised. That's not equivalent. What would be equivalent is saying that muslims think that the extremists are just a tiny minority, aren't really a threat and shouldn't need to worry or try and stop them as they're a few nitwits that have always been a bit loopy. That just simply isn't true, nor is it the case.
As I've said like 3 times, simply denying rape culture exists is not evidence in and of it itself; claiming it doesn't exist and going out of your way to brush it off is the sort of behaviour that allows rape culture to breed and perpetuate. Again, white supremacy situation. If you look at the hard evidence, take it all into account, and make a post like "Look, i've looked at all the statistics for each individual area, I've looked at recent events, I've looked at the current social situation and I don't think there's a reason to believe white supremacy is becoming a problem" - well, good on you because you actually tried researching it. However, saying "Nah, white supremacy is just a bunch of idiots who want to be nazis and be scary, just ignore them, not everyone's like that. Not a problem in this country" - [i]it in itself acknowledges that the issue, white supremacy, exists in some form by mentioning that there are "a bunch of idiots" doing something different to everyone else.[/i] Shrugging it off as just a minor inconvenience rather than potentially something bigger without bringing critical debate into it deligitimises the threat, causing it to be ignored by the general populace whilst those who are causing the problems are able to spread and continue what they are doing as they are now only seen as a bunch of loons and not a valid threat.
Look at Donald trump's pussy quotes. It didn't even get dismissed as "well he's backwards", a lot of people said "Yeah but it's locker room talk, everyone does it.." which implies that actively and frequently speaking so low about women and objectifying them is something that is OK. [b]It's not.[/b]. It's an underlying issue and the fact that the don somehow managed to get more popular after uttering those words is another indicator that there are biases and an underlying issue within the general population. Nobody should be condoning those words coming from a politician, and absolutely nobody should be defending it's use either. The fact that people do, show that people think that it is actually in fact an alright thing to do, and that it isn't a problem. No women seemed to share that view..
I apologise that I've ranted about something different but you just don't seem to be getting the message / interpreting mine in a warped way.
I think the term 'rape culture' triggers a lot of people because they associate it with misandrists saying that all men are rapists and such.
People are unfortunately gross however and both men and women hold biases that normalise sexually abusive behaviour. I'm pretty sure that's what people mean when they talk about rape culture anyway. Like just off the top of my head, I remember I used to work with a guy who would make the odd comment about customers he found attractive. I found it unprofessional but it was just basic shit, nothing really creepy and I figured it was harmless.
Then one night he went on a tirade about how you couldn't trust women because "when a man dresses up to go out, he's covered, but everything's out with a woman, who knows what they get up to".
That's just an anecdote and I'm sure people will say 'it's not everyone who's like that' but the point isn't that literally everyone in a society is cool with rape, it's that there are enough people with skewed perspectives that leads to society as a whole having a rape problem. You don't have to go very far on this forum and the Internet in general to find someone who thinks of the opposite sex as some alien thing who will offer sex when certain criteria are met and that's it.
[QUOTE=phygon;52761448]Man, that's a pretty huge claim.
Do you have a pretty huge source to back it up? All that I could find from googling were studies that said that one in five women were victims of sexual assault / attempted sexual assault, which has a [I]significantly[/I] broader definition.[/QUOTE]
yeah sexual assault isn't the same as rape.
If I squeeze a boob that'd be sexual assault and if i tried and got my hand slapped away it would be attempted sexual assault. It would not be rape by even looser definitions but it would still be offensive and immoral.
[QUOTE=thisguy123;52762428]yeah sexual assault isn't the same as rape.
If I squeeze a boob that'd be sexual assault and if i tried and got my hand slapped away it would be attempted sexual assault. It would not be rape by even looser definitions but it would still be offensive and immoral.[/QUOTE]
It's still immoral but I got over someone grabbing my ass in like 10 minutes where a a rape victim wouldn't be able to do the same.
It's a very important distinction to make, given how traumatizing rape is.
[QUOTE=The golden;52758145]Yeah, no. It's a lot more than "a few fucks on the internet." Sexual harassment and assault is a serious serious issue for women around the world. Raising awareness of these issues is one of the major aspects of the feminist movement.[/QUOTE]
This may be true but it doesn't change the fact that a few fucks over the internet isn't proof of it being widespread. Thus the original post, taking this as evidence that rape culture is a thing, is somewhat silly.
As someone who likes a girl with some fuzz on her, I’m glad there are women out there like this one to show girls that they don’t have to buy useless cosmetics to feel good about their bodies. God knows i’ve seen too many beautiful brunette girls with a little hair on their arms one day and the next day they’re pimply and red from waxing.
I don’t know why I like women this way, my guess is because i’ve always had a thing for Italian girls who are typically hairier and keeping one’s body hair is an outward sign of free thinking and self respect which I value. It’s something I like and appreciate in a woman but it’s not necessary for a relationship either.
Now you know my deepest secret. Sorry if it’s too much information.
[QUOTE=Mr. Sarcastic;52764622]As someone who likes a girl with some fuzz on her, I’m glad there are women out there like this one to show girls that they don’t have to buy useless cosmetics to feel good about their bodies. God knows i’ve seen too many beautiful brunette girls with a little hair on their arms one day and the next day they’re pimply and red from waxing.
I don’t know why I like women this way, my guess is because i’ve always had a thing for Italian girls who are typically hairier and keeping one’s body hair is an outward sign of free thinking and self respect which I value. It’s something I like and appreciate in a woman but it’s not necessary for a relationship either.
Now you know my deepest secret. Sorry if it’s too much information.[/QUOTE]
Personal preference is personal preference, people can like and dislike whatever they like.
Its ok if you don't like girls who dye their hair or wear eyeshadow or whatever but this goes a bit beyond simply disliking, I would equate it as someome with a thing for redheads being aggressive to someone for not being ginger.
[QUOTE=fulgrim;52758907]I don't understand how we are still getting [I]"lmao rape culture doesn't exist!! rape is a crime!!! where do I get my rape trophy then???!"[/I] comments every single time this subject is mentioned?
How could you be so opposed to a concept that you will vehemently dismiss it any time it comes up, but never stop and read the replies that clarify what it actually is?.
Literally every time the subject comes up someone will explain that it's not about society actively promoting rape, but elements of society that enable rapists and make them less likely to face consequences for their crimes.
Attitudes like the whole "lmao trump talking about sexually assaulting a married woman is just guy talk we all do it!!"?- or all those times courtrooms consider the future of the ~poor misunderstood rapist~ before justice for the victim, like that guy who got 6 months for literal rape because he could fucking swim fast?. That's what people mean by rape culture.
I'm starting to think you guys have read the replies and just discard them so you can continue getting righteously indignant about the imagined tyranny of the dreaded SJW kabal of teenage girls hailing from the tumblr sub-realm.[/QUOTE]
I think the disconnect, for me anyway, is that what you just described is a human society thing, not a rape thing.
Society has a tendency to dismiss things that can't be proven, as these sexual assaults and rapes generally are.
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The same goes for athletes who commit other crimes, like drugs, for example. It gets covered up and excused.
[QUOTE=Pernoccuous;52757946]i am disgusted by you and find you unattractive so i am going to have sex with you :badzing:[/QUOTE]
This is always my response with disgusting posts
when wickedplayer made his post the first thing I thought to myself was "man, you know what this guy really needs? A good throat fucking"
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