• Google revamps image search to protect Getty Images' intellectual property; removes "view images"
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[QUOTE=Axznma;53134720]I've been using the Greasemonkey (and their forks) script that automatically views an image or link from Google when you open it in a new tab (I have one of my mouse thumb buttons set to this so it's easy and quick) for years. Having to click twice (once on the image then again on View) when I'm doing image collecting is such an unnecessary waste of time. Just tried it and it still works.[/QUOTE] Does it still let you view other resolution images? Currently I can't view other resolutions because of this change.
[QUOTE=ZombieWaffle;53135574]For those of you switching to DuckDuckGo after this, also consider StartPage. It's a search engine by ixquick- uses Google results and offers more anonymity options than DuckDuckGo like browsing search results via proxy. [url=http://securityspread.com/2016/10/24/duckduckgo-startpage-2016-update/]Here's a comparison.[/url][/QUOTE] Interestingly their image search has a somewhat similar issue though. They only give you a proxy version of the image for whatever reason rather than allowing you to choose between the proxied image or the original. I didn't look terribly hard but I wasn't able to find any information on how they deal with the proxied images in the first place so if they don't literally just redirect the image to you from its original location then you still don't get access to the original images.
I've been using DuckDuckGo for a while now. At this point it's pretty much as good as google for most stuff. I'll still switch over to Google every now and again for some things that Google does really well (mostly local showtimes).
[t]https://i.imgur.com/c2zszrp.png[/t]
[QUOTE=AlienCreature;53135092]tineye.com is your friend. Takes a bit more effort but it works really well.[/QUOTE] It works far worse than google's image search. Every time I tried to use it to find originals/hi-res of the re-uploaded art it failed to find anything.
These are dark times we're living in, friends...
[QUOTE=Megalan;53135901]It works far worse than google's image search. Every time I tried to use it to find originals/hi-res of the re-uploaded art it failed to find anything.[/QUOTE] It's really highly dependent on the specific image. Sometimes it finds nothing useful, if any results in the first place, but other times it'll return accurate results Google doesn't have. It's best to make use of both services instead of just one or the other.
No one mentioned this, but Bing image search is a godsend. Especially when you need to do some "research"
[QUOTE=LZTYBRN;53134867]middle clicking on the image no longer opens the image in a new tab :angry: this is probably the first time i've seen google make a change to the search that actually actively removed functionality rather than adding it[/QUOTE] This suggests to me that we've hit something which I like to call "peak Google" we've actually passed the point where Google has the most features, from now is a steady decrease in Google until, by necessity, we move to alternative search sources Source: chart from Wikipedia [IMG]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8f/Hubbert_peak_oil_plot.svg/1200px-Hubbert_peak_oil_plot.svg.png[/IMG]
Wow, I thought I was just goin' fuckin' crazy when I couldn't find that button anymore... Now I'm just goin' fuckin' crazy cause this is dumb as hell.
Here's a novel idea: if companies complain about the results your search service offers, why not just remove their sites from any and all search results? I suppose now I can be sure that Google has no problem putting corporate interests over content. Time to switch to StartPage!
[QUOTE=Sombrero;53134810]This was taken from a screenshot from google's forums posted on reddit, but this is one of their "excuses": [img]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/263380069014044672/413785805518012417/unknown.png[/img] It's not like the "view page" button existed for a reason, no siree. But gotta pull the classics "let's remove everything everyone uses for no reason except change".[/QUOTE] Isn't that what the Visit button does anyways? Ugh.
I made a Chrome extension to add back the button [t]https://i.imgur.com/hL62Otx.jpg[/t] [url]https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/fix-google-images/inckfpcmmlodndfagjbeehhfbgodhicd?hl=en-US&gl=US[/url] There's a 0.6 second delay to the button appearing/updating every time you click on a new image in the results, because it has to wait for the little slide-down animation to finish if you weren't already viewing a picture when you clicked on another. So if you see the button popping in that's why. Also, some images just don't have a link to the high res version; in some cases the button will direct you to the site, and in others it will be labeled "No link to image," in which case clicking it will basically refresh the page. Nothing I can do about those, the links simply aren't there. Also, if you go a direct image link on Pinterest, it'll try to download it instead of displaying it; this is done by their website when you navigate to the proper URL, there's nothing I can do about that. Here's the source code zipped up in case anyone wants to improve it/make sure it's not malicious: [url]https://mega.nz/#!CJxhGBIa!lJufht-iVfWERvdJZKtl_XTIDKNPUaeqL1H-yl5YQGY[/url] Also I've never uploaded a zip for public download before, sorry if that's a shit site
so THAT'S why I can't just see the fucking image in a new tab right away? Woooow....
Wait, did the View Image button originally open it in a new tab by default?
[QUOTE=laharlsblade;53136126]I made a Chrome extension to add back the button [t]https://i.imgur.com/hL62Otx.jpg[/t] [url]https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/fix-google-images/inckfpcmmlodndfagjbeehhfbgodhicd?hl=en-US&gl=US[/url] There's a 0.6 second delay to the button appearing/updating every time you click on a new image in the results, because it has to wait for the little slide-down animation to finish if you weren't already viewing a picture when you clicked on another. So if you see the button popping in that's why. Also, some images just don't have a link to the high res version; in some cases the button will direct you to the site, and in others it will be labeled "No link to image," in which case clicking it will basically refresh the page. Nothing I can do about those, the links simply aren't there. Also, if you go a direct image link on Pinterest, it'll try to download it instead of displaying it; this is done by their website when you navigate to the proper URL, there's nothing I can do about that. Here's the source code zipped up in case anyone wants to improve it/make sure it's not malicious: [url]https://mega.nz/#!CJxhGBIa!lJufht-iVfWERvdJZKtl_XTIDKNPUaeqL1H-yl5YQGY[/url] Also I've never uploaded a zip for public download before, sorry if that's a shit site[/QUOTE] It doesn't seem to work from .co.jp or .nl, when I switched to .com it worked. Thanks!
[QUOTE=Sithramir;53136163]It doesn't seem to work from .co.jp or .nl, when I switched to .com it worked. Thanks![/QUOTE] Oh, thanks for mentioning that. It's poorly written and I just explicitly check for "google.com" and a small string that's unique to the image search in the page URL to make sure it doesn't try to run on every page. I'll update that and uh, I assume it'll auto update for anyone that's installed it? Never published an extension before.
[QUOTE=laharlsblade;53136126]I made a Chrome extension to add back the button [t]https://i.imgur.com/hL62Otx.jpg[/t] [url]https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/fix-google-images/inckfpcmmlodndfagjbeehhfbgodhicd?hl=en-US&gl=US[/url] There's a 0.6 second delay to the button appearing/updating every time you click on a new image in the results, because it has to wait for the little slide-down animation to finish if you weren't already viewing a picture when you clicked on another. So if you see the button popping in that's why. Also, some images just don't have a link to the high res version; in some cases the button will direct you to the site, and in others it will be labeled "No link to image," in which case clicking it will basically refresh the page. Nothing I can do about those, the links simply aren't there. Also, if you go a direct image link on Pinterest, it'll try to download it instead of displaying it; this is done by their website when you navigate to the proper URL, there's nothing I can do about that. Here's the source code zipped up in case anyone wants to improve it/make sure it's not malicious: [url]https://mega.nz/#!CJxhGBIa!lJufht-iVfWERvdJZKtl_XTIDKNPUaeqL1H-yl5YQGY[/url] Also I've never uploaded a zip for public download before, sorry if that's a shit site[/QUOTE] Only works with google.com, you need to fix it for localization because if someone is logged into google, it wont let them use .com. And this is really dumb of Google, isn't even their fault and they're having to resolve it by removing functionality. I really wanna know the reasoning behind why Getty can't fucking update their robots.txt [editline]16th February 2018[/editline] Fart already mentioned right as I was typing it.
[QUOTE=Reagy;53136172]Only works with google.com, you need to fix it for localization because if someone is logged into google, it wont let them use .com. And this is really dumb of Google, isn't even their fault and they're having to resolve it by removing functionality. I really wanna know the reasoning behind why Getty can't fucking update their robots.txt [editline]16th February 2018[/editline] Fart already mentioned right as I was typing it.[/QUOTE] Yep, sorry, just published a fix. Should work with any google domain now. Just for my own peace of mind, the original button did open the picture in the current tab, not a new one, right? Oh yeah, in the future, if anyone notices this doesn't work anymore, please send me a message. I don't necessarily use image search everyday, and if google does something to break this (and I'm sure they will eventually) I'd like to know so I can fix it or take it down.
[QUOTE=laharlsblade;53136201]Yep, sorry, just published a fix. Should work with any extension now. Just for my own peace of mind, the original button did open the picture in the current tab, not a new one, right?[/QUOTE] I honestly can't remember, I always middle clicked on the button regardless to open in a new tab. :v: [editline]16th February 2018[/editline] Can confirm, it works now on .co.uk so I suspect your fix works on all the domain variants. Good thing its webextension based as well. :v:
Alphabet and and its subsidiaries like google have basically been on a downwards shit-slide for a long time to my thinking. They're not really breaking new ground anymore, but just sitting on really big properties and trying to keep them floating. And i'll also be seeing if i cant make Duckduckgo work for me.
Sadly chrome on android can't be switched to using duckduckgo by default
I first noticed this on the mobile version of the image search and thought it was some weird error... Thanks, Google, for this [I]wonderful[/I] improvement. :downs: Someone also made a userscript to fix it for both Firefox and Chrome. [URL]https://github.com/devunt/make-gis-great-again[/URL]
It's unlikely they'll roll it back right away (or at all) but it's worth a shot to request it back by sending feedback about it (which I've been told many times, is read by staff) by clicking on that small Send feedback link on the bottom of the black frame when selecting an image: [t]https://i.imgur.com/SfNwuUT.png[/t] (yeah, ran to get that userscript :v:) You get your usual form, fill it with more or less profanity, highlight the lack of the button if you want, and Send. At least they won't be able to claim ignorance that way. Maybe. [IMG]https://facepunch.com/fp/ratings/rainbow.png[/IMG][IMG]https://facepunch.com/fp/ratings/rainbow.png[/IMG][IMG]https://facepunch.com/fp/ratings/rainbow.png[/IMG]
Google was very dumb to attempt this, especially when you can still right click to open the image in a new tab on search results, bypassing the rest of the website entirely and rendering this stunt pointless. Also, the way their community team has been trying to "sell" this change is borderline insulting.
so wait, Google partnered with Getty Images same GI which collects work of random people to extort random other people Getty Images flat out 'steal' images from public libraries and free sources and then attempts to demand payment of some weird royalties from the very same author who put it up for free to public it was even funnier when GI acquired other libraries and 'lost the database of purchases' then tried to force the former clients of all those libraries to re-buy licenses it clearly shows how low Google has fallen and the speed is increasing little test search image spacex falcon heavy [URL]https://duckduckgo.com/?q=spacex+falcon+heavy&t=hf&iax=images&ia=images[/URL] vs [URL]https://www.startpage.com/do/asearch?cat=pics&cmd=process_search&language=english&query=spacex+falcon+heavy&hmb=1&ff=&nj=0[/URL] vs [url]https://www.google.cz/search?q=spacex+falcon+heavy&safe=off&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&biw=1536&bih=865[/url] vs [URL]https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=image+spacex+falcon+heavy&FORM=HDRSC2[/URL] imho Google is the worst choice now
"open image in new tab" still exists at least
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