High Sierra will be last macOS release to fully support 32-bit apps - Sensationalist Headlines

[QUOTE=helifreak;52420275]Hi, software developer here, all our stuff is 32bit because of XP support, sorry. Windows won't go 64bit only until after the Visual Studio devs get off their arse and build that in 64bit so we can stop it crashing daily when it hits 4gb. Their reasoning is less memory use due to pointer size but that doesn't help when you're at the limit of 32 bit addressing.[/QUOTE] What is it with Japanese software and XP support anyway? It always seems like Japanese PC software has outrageous legacy support [editline].[/editline] Assuming your flagdog is correct :v:

[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;52420296]What is it with Japanese software and XP support anyway? It always seems like Japanese PC software has outrageous legacy support [editline].[/editline] Assuming your flagdog is correct :v:[/QUOTE] Fucking Australians, it's a proxy

[QUOTE=Scratch.;52420313]Fucking Australians, it's a proxy[/QUOTE] No it's a VPS.

[QUOTE=helifreak;52420333]No it's a VPS.[/QUOTE] You're using a server for procuration same shit, wider scale

[QUOTE=elitehakor;52419933][url]http://www.computerworld.com/article/3131906/apple-mac/ibm-says-macs-are-even-cheaper-to-run-than-it-thought.html[/url] [url]http://bgr.com/2013/11/28/mac-chromebook-google-employees/[/url] [url]https://9to5mac.com/2011/05/11/at-google-io-everybody-uses-mac-notebooks-even-google/[/url] :thinking: [editline]30th June 2017[/editline] bonus: [url]https://www.quora.com/Are-MacBooks-actively-used-by-Microsoft-employees[/url][/QUOTE] i mean, I was making a joke, and even so your sources dont say anything about actual numbers being used. a lot of companies and businesses use software that can be old as the nineties, and microsoft has to cater to them. apple doesnt have this issue since even with folks who do use their software, primarily thoss in music and video content production, tend to stay more up to date with hardware than companies who need machines for excel, email, and some program barely ported from DOS in a perfect world, these holdouts would switch to modern software/hardware, or least to linux or something so the rest of us can modernize. But IT departments tend to be underfunded and understaffed, so this never happens, and we are left with really out of date computers, with out of date software getting ransomware

Some software development companies, including the one I'm interning at, use Apple stuff because development on a UNIX system is much nicer, but Linux isn't quite appropriate for use on desktops in a business, or they also need to run something like Adobe or Autodesk software as well. Not every company is still running XP or some shit.

[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;52420496]Some software development companies, including the one I'm interning at, use Apple stuff because development on a UNIX system is much nicer, but Linux isn't quite appropriate for use on desktops in a business. Not every company is still running XP or some shit.[/QUOTE] of course not every company or everyone uses XP, [URL="https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1561525&p=52145160&viewfull=1#post52145160"]but plenty do[/URL], and coupled with the fact that even if they use a modern OS, they may not stay up to date with security patches, it is why the ransomware attacks we had lately became big news. and i understand that its not easy to push out updates quickly in the enterprise settings, going back to my point of underfunded and understaffed IT teams.

I would very much like everything to move on to 64-bit. But there are still tons of 32-bit programs. And I like old games etc. too which are 32-bit. I guess we could get a Dosbox-like solution for 32-bit programs in the future?

[QUOTE=SgtTupelo;52424145]I would very much like everything to move on to 64-bit. But there are still tons of 32-bit programs. And I like old games etc. too which are 32-bit. I guess we could get a Dosbox-like solution for 32-bit programs in the future?[/QUOTE] That's largely what the purpose of WoW64 already is for Windows. It more or less a compatibility layer for 32 bit programs. Something similar exists for Linux. If native 32/16 bit OS's are needed, that's what virtual machines are for. Or DosBox.

[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;52420296]What is it with Japanese software and XP support anyway? It always seems like Japanese PC software has outrageous legacy support [/QUOTE] The chinese love XP & Server2k3 too. They can't get away from it for whatever reason it is. I get a lot of tickets with them posting screenshots with that god awful fisher price GUI. And as for 32b platform support in windows, it will be around for some time. Windows was always quite flexible with legacy support, and for enterprise environments going to another platform is too costly for them. I worked at a place that went from 2k to XP, and they refused to go to 7 when it was released just because they took a 16bit application and put it into a 32bit installer. While 7 would install it, the app would surely crash. Unfortunately, those pieces of software where critical for operations and simply way too expensive both in labor and cost to update it.

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[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;52427007]Maybe because most people didn't use over 3.1GB of RAM until recently? Just a guess.[/QUOTE] The benefits of 64-bit go far beyond memory limitations, and even that was really just a Windows thing.