[QUOTE=grob;52646247]I just wish sometime in the far future medicine will have been refined purely into pill/injectable forms.
Have a brain tumor? Take this pill and it will flush out the mutated matter and slowly rebuild connections and reform old matter.
Broken Leg? Take this pill that simply strengthens your immune system and boosts your metabolism; rebuilding it in a couple days/weeks.
Heart Disease? Take this injection that will glass your veins like the aliens from Halo 3.
Surgeries with blades, drills and vices are simply horrific and people who go through major surgery almost NEVER come out the same person.[/QUOTE]
I'd rather it be something like this:
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBipf6OzDY0[/media]
[QUOTE=grob;52647484]My post was me just saying "I hope the future is like this"
How could you take it any other way...?[/QUOTE]
Your post was fine (if optimistic) until
[quote]Surgeries with blades, drills and vices are simply horrific and people who go through major surgery almost NEVER come out the same person.[/quote]
Reads like a Ken M post
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;52646051]Imagine stream chat.[/QUOTE]
imagine Twitch Plays Brain Surgery
[QUOTE=grob;52646595]I'd like to see you go through brain surgery or open heart surgery and be complacent.[/QUOTE]
I went through three surgeries and I don't think it did anything to me lol
What are you smoking and can I have some of it
Reminds me of this
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqWBDHRvHrQ[/media]
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;52647627]I went through three surgeries and I don't think it did anything to me lol
What are you smoking and can I have some of it[/QUOTE]
Would you rather go through that surgery or take a pill that does the same thing?
If not you probably had some minor shit like your tonsils removed.
Guarantee you would start sweating if someone told you that you needed to have your skull split open and prodded with while conscious.
[QUOTE=grob;52646247]I just wish sometime in the far future medicine will have been refined purely into pill/injectable forms.
Have a brain tumor? Take this pill and it will flush out the mutated matter and slowly rebuild connections and reform old matter.
Broken Leg? Take this pill that simply strengthens your immune system and boosts your metabolism; rebuilding it in a couple days/weeks.
Heart Disease? Take this injection that will glass your veins like the aliens from Halo 3.
Surgeries with blades, drills and vices are simply horrific and people who go through major surgery almost NEVER come out the same person.[/QUOTE]
Can confirm that I have changed significantly since my surgery. That might be to do with the fact it was 12 years ago though, I'm still gathering evidence. Certainly far less into beyblades.
dude went to the eastman school of music?
[QUOTE=grob;52648183]
Guarantee you would start sweating if someone told you that you needed to have your skull split open and prodded with while conscious.[/QUOTE]
What kind of argument are you trying to make. I understand where you're coming from but the concept of being g in a position where you'd need to take a pill or have surgery because your fucking brain has a tumor on it would make me sweat regardless because it's goddamn cancer.
Sure, I'd like to take the pill but I would wholeheartedly take a surgery because I'm not going to be scared of having my brain poked in if the end result is possibly an early death.
The concept of being awake while you're getting brain surgery is freaky
You'd feel the docs touch your brain, that'd be a weird feeling
[QUOTE=Fox Powers;52648455]The concept of being awake while you're getting brain surgery is freaky
You'd feel the docs touch your brain, that'd be a weird feeling[/QUOTE]
The brain has no pain receptors at all, so you'd feel nothing.
If the doctors put electrodes on you, though, [URL="https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/bmw4kq/what-it-feels-like-to-have-brain-surgery-while-awake"]they can shut parts of the brain off.[/URL]
[QUOTE]My tumor was near the motor and speech areas of my brain so they put the electrodes really near there. When the electrodes were in place on different areas, I wasn't able to move. They told me to count to 10 and when I got to seven I wasn't able to speak. It meant they knew which parts of my brain they couldn't touch, which they wouldn't have done if I was asleep. I kept asking, "Is that normal? Is that normal?"[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=NeonpieDFTBA;52648205]Can confirm that I have changed significantly since my surgery. That might be to do with the fact it was 12 years ago though, I'm still gathering evidence. Certainly far less into beyblades.[/QUOTE]
A change for the better then.
[QUOTE=MoopsiePook;52648253]What kind of argument are you trying to make. I understand where you're coming from but the concept of being g in a position where you'd need to take a pill or have surgery because your fucking brain has a tumor on it would make me sweat regardless because it's goddamn cancer.
Sure, I'd like to take the pill but I would wholeheartedly take a surgery because I'm not going to be scared of having my brain poked in if the end result is possibly an early death.[/QUOTE]
You don't think I understand that? You even said it yourself "I'd like to take the pill". So why are you even typing anything else to go along with that? My comment was just me saying "It would be cool if surgery was replaced with -safer equivalent-"
All other replies from me after that first comment are me asking whether or not you would want an invasive surgery or a pill alternative. People think I'm saying "Surgery is scary and useless and should not exist with no other alternative". I'm not.
How many times do I have to say it...?
[QUOTE=grob;52649712]You don't think I understand that? You even said it yourself "I'd like to take the pill". So why are you even typing anything else to go along with that? My comment was just me saying "It would be cool if surgery was replaced with -safer equivalent-"
All other replies from me after that first comment are me asking whether or not you would want an invasive surgery or a pill alternative. People think I'm saying "Surgery is scary and useless and should not exist with no other alternative". I'm not.
How many times do I have to say it...?[/QUOTE]
obviously anybody would take a magic pill that makes everything better with no time or effort, but magic isn't real and never will be.
[QUOTE=grob;52648183]Would you rather go through that surgery or take a pill that does the same thing?
If not you probably had some minor shit like your tonsils removed.
Guarantee you would start sweating if someone told you that you needed to have your skull split open and prodded with while conscious.[/QUOTE]
I'd also like to be able to take a pill and get billions of dollars. But it isn't real. Your point is made please stop talking about it lol
It would be better if surgery was replaced, was my point. It would be a cool thing. Not feasible right now; but that's why I said in the first sentence "[B]IN THE FAR FUTURE[/B]".
[QUOTE=grob;52649945]It would be better if surgery was replaced, was my point. It would be a cool thing. Not feasible right now; but that's why I said in the first sentence "[B]IN THE FAR FUTURE[/B]".[/QUOTE]
The main thing is that you are pretty much always going to need surgery to exist. Take most trauma surgery, you will always need to reduce the fracture appropriately, which can't always be done while awake, or solely by MUA, you just have to open for some cases. Then you have to ensure it is stabilised while it heals, which will sometimes require some form of fixation, be it exfix or an ORIF of some kind.
Now, that's not to say that surgery will remain constant - for example, many procedures are done laporoscopically now, to be far less invasive, and you have interventional rad growing in use massively. However, no matter how advanced you get, there will always be some cases where you just got to get in.
[QUOTE=grob;52646964]Cannot understand why people have a problem with me hoping to rid of invasive surgery and find a less traumatic alternative.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like a certain Mr. Pilkington.
I mean, of course that would be better - but it's just wishful thinking, it's not gonna happen today or tomorrow.
If we got rid of surgeries like this, people would just straight up die instead because there's no alternative.
It's not like people are taking or performing these surgeries for fun - It's because there's no other option.
[QUOTE=grob;52649945]It would be better if surgery was replaced, was my point. It would be a cool thing. Not feasible right now; but that's why I said in the first sentence "[B]IN THE FAR FUTURE[/B]".[/QUOTE]
That's why I made the analogy to my friend trying to invent something so obviously cool. You don't think there are already a ton of people working on advancing the technology that makes this stuff possible? Right now medical robotics looks something like [url=https://i.ytimg.com/vi/vb79-_hGLkc/maxresdefault.jpg] this[/url]. It's pretty big, and as you can imagine from the picture it's just doing what normal human doctors do but with robot precision. Either programmed by or controlled directly by someone with surgical training. This is essentially an extension of the human surgeon as these medical robots are going to be designed to do things exactly as our best humans would do it, because right now that's the best thing we've ever come up with (good surgeons, that is. No tech beats a good doc, at the moment).
What that means is that as time moves forward the people working in the medical tech field will make advancements in the miniaturization of the hardware. Eventually it will get smaller and smaller, but as it does it's going to be lead by human surgeons operating them in the ways they have learned works best. As the "robuts" get smaller and smaller, they'll be performing these tasks with less invasive means. Maybe they can do any surgery from a whole the size of a nickle. Then later we don't even need the whole because you can swallow the robot and shit it out. But this takes time and people working on it all over the world every day and it's going to be a really long time before the procedures are going to be anything other than a regular procedure that's extremely stable.
Basically what I mean by this is that you're saying "They the medical field should like, slowly make advancements in technology that benefit the patients" to a [B]$400 billion[/B] global industry. Something that's already happening on a massive scale. Not to mention, it's all based around the surgery you think is too scary when the disease should be what scares you. It doesn't get less scary just because it's less invasive. Imagine taking a pill with 20 nanobots and then watching the doctor count them later to make sure they all came out. Or seeing on the news that someone died because they accidentally told the nanobots to run a program meant for a different patient and they shredded his organs from the inside.
[QUOTE=MedicWine;52650647]That's why I made the analogy to my friend trying to invent something so obviously cool. You don't think there are already a ton of people working on advancing the technology that makes this stuff possible? Right now medical robotics looks something like [url=https://i.ytimg.com/vi/vb79-_hGLkc/maxresdefault.jpg] this[/url]. It's pretty big, and as you can imagine from the picture it's just doing what normal human doctors do but with robot precision. Either programmed by or controlled directly by someone with surgical training. This is essentially an extension of the human surgeon as these medical robots are going to be designed to do things exactly as our best humans would do it, because right now that's the best thing we've ever come up with (good surgeons, that is. No tech beats a good doc, at the moment).
What that means is that as time moves forward the people working in the medical tech field will make advancements in the miniaturization of the hardware. Eventually it will get smaller and smaller, but as it does it's going to be lead by human surgeons operating them in the ways they have learned works best. As the "robuts" get smaller and smaller, they'll be performing these tasks with less invasive means. Maybe they can do any surgery from a whole the size of a nickle. Then later we don't even need the whole because you can swallow the robot and shit it out. But this takes time and people working on it all over the world every day and it's going to be a really long time before the procedures are going to be anything other than a regular procedure that's extremely stable.
Basically what I mean by this is that you're saying "They the medical field should like, slowly make advancements in technology that benefit the patients" to a [B]$400 billion[/B] global industry. Something that's already happening on a massive scale. Not to mention, it's all based around the surgery you think is too scary when the disease should be what scares you. It doesn't get less scary just because it's less invasive. Imagine taking a pill with 20 nanobots and then watching the doctor count them later to make sure they all came out. Or seeing on the news that someone died because they accidentally told the nanobots to run a program meant for a different patient and they shredded his organs from the inside.[/QUOTE]
my post was a literal fart in the wind and not a call to action, god damn man
didn't think people would take me seriously when I mentioned your circulatory system getting ass blasted like earth in halo 3
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