Men won't volunteer to help the Scouts for one depressing reason: they'll be labelled paedophiles - Sensationalist Headlines

[QUOTE=SAULSBASHWALL;52167239]Considering the actual statistics involved, no. No sympathy. If I had kids I sure as fuck would not trust a random dickhead with them.[/QUOTE] Good luck with that

[QUOTE=Vodkavia;52165966]I feel like even that's overkill because statistically it's family who are most likely to abuse/harm their own children. The whole stranger danger hysteria has projected the actual risk children face onto random passers by and off the actual prime perpetrators of abuse.[/QUOTE] We kicked one guy from the group around 8 years ago because he was getting to rough and maybe touchy when dealing with his scouts (12-16 year olds). Later he was working as a high school gym teacher, and from what I've heard. He got kicked from there as well. Stuff like this does happen.

i'm working for a science camp over the summer with kids aged 7-12, so i'm kind of nervous but at the same time getting paid 500$ a week to blow up rockets, make slime, and mess with model cars is so worth it. there are already some other men working in the group so i think it will be easier to deal with the parents.

[QUOTE=Instant Mix;52168173]This. I'm sure if you combined it with the statistics of female abusers and most likely the huge amount of unreported female abusers because of the toxic masculine ideology of "it's a hot woman its cool why would you report it?", you wouldn't see much of a difference. I honestly don't think there is any significant difference between the frequency of female and male abusers, there are just some serious underlying social issues and viewpoints that are negatively biased towards men. And unfortunately, it's something that unless there are more men in these positions, it won't go away easy. It's a real shame. Just to clarify, I'm not saying the level of severity of abuse is biased towards men; any level of abuse is absolutely abysmal and deplorable. I am meaning the common view of the frequency or chance of abuse occurring is negatively biased towards men. [editline]30th April 2017[/editline] Literally, a thread that is actually talking about really serious gender inequality issues and that's what you pick up on? Fucking hell man.[/QUOTE] This is an actual policy. I found it pretty ridiculous. It's possible to care about multiple things at the same time.

[QUOTE=omggrass;52169491]i'm working for a science camp over the summer with kids aged 7-12, so i'm kind of nervous but at the same time getting paid 500$ a week to blow up rockets, make slime, and mess with model cars is so worth it. there are already some other men working in the group so i think it will be easier to deal with the parents.[/QUOTE] As long as "make slime" isn't a euphemism you should be fine. I worked with 3-4 year olds at a preschool for around two years and I never had any issue with parents.

Yeah, I remember back when I was in scouts and turned 18 and they had me go through the guidelines on what was basically how to cover your ass against this sort of thing- never being alone with a kid or being in eyesight at all times, that sort of thing.

I'm really not sure where they whole idea came from. As a religious person, I'm constantly around people who would probably be considered 'far right' when it comes to gender roles, yet none of them have this idea of men being potential abusers. There are tons of men who help with children events for the church and the like, and this is consistent across every church I've ever been to.

[QUOTE=sgman91;52170227]I'm really not sure where they whole idea came from. As a religious person, I'm constantly around people who would probably be considered 'far right' when it comes to gender roles, yet none of them have this idea of men being potential abusers. There are tons of men who help with children events for the church and the like, and this is consistent across every church I've ever been to.[/QUOTE] Same, I used to help teach kids at my local church and all of the parents (admittedly who I all knew for several years) always trusted me and even thanked me for being there to look after their kids and we're talking high school and middle school age kids. In fact I think we had more men teaching, counseling, and supervising children then we did girls or women. We actually had a mini-crisis because we couldn't find enough young women to volunteer to teach girl's sunday school, we had me and like 4 other young men available to supervise or teach but only maybe 1 or 2 women. Our church always encouraged all the young people to become teachers or even volunteers, regardless of sex.

It just makes me think of that one South Park episode.

[QUOTE=luverofJ!93;52165650] I think our collective masculinity would healthier if more men learned to take on nurturing roles.[/QUOTE] well.. more men are becoming nurses. not really, but it's becoming less uncommon :/

Late comment but, [QUOTE=Instant Mix;52166083] There's a significant lack of male teachers in Scotland, and there's a real reason for it. H[B]opefully with the rise of feminism and equality it will be something that will be brought to more people's attention[/B][/QUOTE] Good fucking luck with that. I may not have numbers on "proper" feminists, but with modern feminism as it is right now, I'd only expect things to get worse, if anything.