Nick Robinson of Polygon Suspended, Vox Media Pending Investigation of Alleged Sexual Harassment - Sensationalist Headlines

What's damning to me, honestly, is nobody he personally knows is defending him. I personally didn't care for Nick, but I definitely don't want to see someone's career ruined because of unsubstantiated vague tweets. But the fact that people, like fellow employees, podcast co-hosts, friends, nobody is saying, "hey, I know Nick personally, he wouldn't do something like this, and I haven't seen any evidence that he has." Everyone is cutting ties almost immediately. Either it's unsurprising to them, given past behavior we're not aware of but they are, or they have recent evidence we can't see, but has been brought to their attention. Either way, we'll have to wait and see what Vox's decision on the matter is. I don't think we need to see the chatlogs, really, just get a confirmation they exist. It protects people's privacy, and there's bound to be people who would defend him and say, "Oh, that's fine, this is all being blown out of proportion" no matter what the chatlogs actually say. You can't make excuses if you're not aware of the actual content.

[QUOTE=Conro101;52541196]What's damning to me, honestly, is nobody he personally knows is defending him. I personally didn't care for Nick, but I definitely don't want to see someone's career ruined because of unsubstantiated vague tweets. But the fact that people, like fellow employees, podcast co-hosts, friends, nobody is saying, "hey, I know Nick personally, he wouldn't do something like this, and I haven't seen any evidence that he has." Everyone is cutting ties almost immediately. Either it's unsurprising to them, given past behavior we're not aware of but they are, or they have recent evidence we can't see, but has been brought to their attention. Either way, we'll have to wait and see what Vox's decision on the matter is. I don't think we need to see the chatlogs, really, just get a confirmation they exist. It protects people's privacy, and there's bound to be people who would defend him and say, "Oh, that's fine, this is all being blown out of proportion" no matter what the chatlogs actually say. You can't make excuses if you're not aware of the actual content.[/QUOTE] Honestly, would you defend anything against these fucks? If you do anything to defend someone, like the video I linked showed, they go after you too. Truth is irrelevant to them, only thing that matters is if you're with them, or against them.

[QUOTE=Funktastic Dog;52541186]I hope he doesn't. We don't have enough women, and men for that matter, speaking out about the rampant sexual harassment that goes on in the entertainment industries. I hope he sorta takes it in stride if it's false, because we need more people speaking out against this when it *does* happen. We don't have anything even close to resembling proof.... but I feel the bad juju.[/QUOTE] On the same token, assuming it's all bunk, which I'm not saying it is, we're just talking hypotheticals... If someone gets a false accusation that destroys their lives, should they just suck it up for the greater good so that people aren't afraid to come forward, so victims aren't afraid of being penalized? Or do they deserve some recompense for their lives being destroyed? Justice is hard.

[QUOTE=Conro101;52541196]What's damning to me, honestly, is nobody he personally knows is defending him. I personally didn't care for Nick, but I definitely don't want to see someone's career ruined because of unsubstantiated vague tweets. But the fact that people, like fellow employees, podcast co-hosts, friends, nobody is saying, "hey, I know Nick personally, he wouldn't do something like this, and I haven't seen any evidence that he has." Everyone is cutting ties almost immediately. Either it's unsurprising to them, given past behavior we're not aware of but they are, or they have recent evidence we can't see, but has been brought to their attention. Either way, we'll have to wait and see what Vox's decision on the matter is. I don't think we need to see the chatlogs, really, just get a confirmation they exist. It protects people's privacy, and there's bound to be people who would defend him and say, "Oh, that's fine, this is all being blown out of proportion" no matter what the chatlogs actually say. You can't make excuses if you're not aware of the actual content.[/QUOTE] Or perhaps they're the kind of people that would drop you like a bad habit the moment any controversy started to begin with. The public face and the private face don't necessarily remotely correlate, and in fact tend not to in general in most people "on a crusade" of "higher moral standing", replete with "do as I say, not as I do" stereotype. Secondly if the investigation is in fact criminal, no one is going to be [I]allowed[/I] to say anything, and if it's civil they would still be wise not to.

[QUOTE=Crimor;52541199]Honestly, would you defend anything against these fucks? If you do anything to defend someone, like the video I linked showed, they go after you too.[/QUOTE] I personally wouldn't, but I try to stay off to the sidelines on matters like this. Releasing the logs would just cause people to go after each other, though, and it'd just be a huge mess

[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;52541201]On the same token, assuming it's all bunk, which I'm not saying it is, we're just talking hypotheticals... If someone gets a false accusation that destroys their lives, should they just suck it up for the greater good so that people aren't afraid to come forward, so victims aren't afraid of being penalized? Or do they deserve some recompense for their lives being destroyed? Justice is hard.[/QUOTE] If it's a false accusation then Polygon will keep him on and explain the situation, and then Nick will come out and say something. And there will still be people that will say he's a creep, but that's different than being a sexual harasser.

Changed the title because I literally cannot find any evidence of "assault" accusations.

[QUOTE=Funktastic Dog;52541210]If it's a false accusation then Polygon will keep him on and explain the situation, and then Nick will come out and say something. And there will still be people that will say he's a creep, but that's different than being a sexual harasser.[/QUOTE] The truth doesn't matter anymore, pretty sure he's fired either way. Stuff like this doesn't disappear.

There's a legal and criminal difference between harassment and assault, otherwise I would've left it.

[QUOTE=27X;52541206]Or perhaps they're the kind of people that would drop you like a bad habit the moment any controversy started to begin with. The public face and the private face don't necessarily remotely correlate, and in fact tend not to in general in most people "on a crusade" of "higher moral standing", replete with "do as I say, not as I do" stereotype. Secondly if the investigation is in fact criminal, no one is going to be [i]allowed[/i] to say anything, and it it's civil they would still be wise not to.[/QUOTE] Maybe they are! I don't know! My whole point is that we don't have all the information right now. The only body who has all the evidence is Vox, and like I said, I'd rather wait for them to make a final decision before calling Nick a creep scumbag, or saying that he's being unfairly targeted. It doesn't look good for him at my point of view, but my point of view isn't the one that affects a man's career.

[QUOTE=Conro101;52541215]Maybe they are! I don't know! My whole point is that we don't have all the information right now. The only body who has all the evidence is Vox, and like I said, I'd rather wait for them to make a final decision before calling Nick a creep scumbag, or saying that he's being unfairly targeted. It doesn't look good for him at my point of view, but my point of view isn't the one that affects a man's career.[/QUOTE] There's nothing saying vox even has proof of this currently lol. All I'm reading on their side is literal hearsay.

It's unfortunate that this became public because now he's guilty in the public sphere regardless of whether or not he did anything. His career is most likely over and done now, it doesn't matter what the court decides, you don't just shed the label of 'rapist'.

Boy oh boy. I am definitely leaning on the side of all of this being true, and that Nick Robinson is actually doing some creepy fucking shit... but searching this story on twitter... Now I realize why people become so angry and partisan on twitter. What they're saying is vile.

[QUOTE=Crimor;52541218]There's nothing saying vox even has proof of this currently lol. All I'm reading on their side is literal hearsay.[/QUOTE] Then Vox will take him off suspension and say "no evidence came forward with these claims" of course I'm an optimist and this isn't a perfect world so maybe he'll be unfairly judged and fired. I do wish I could see some shred of something but the fact is until they make a statement we're not going to get more info on this

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;52541219]It's unfortunate that this became public because now he's guilty in the public sphere regardless of whether or not he did anything. His career is most likely over and done now, it doesn't matter what the court decides, you don't just shed the label of 'rapist'.[/QUOTE] He hasn't been accused of something as serious as rape, as far as I can see. While sexual harassment [I]is[/I] hard to come back from, whether he did it or not, it's probably a bit easier than a rape accusation.

Yeah, going over everything on twitter... it seems like everyone who worked with or knew Nick knew about his being a dick, but did not say anything about it until the first victims spoke up about it.

[QUOTE=person11;52541244]Yeah, going over everything on twitter... it seems like everyone who worked with or knew Nick knew about his being a dick, but did not say anything about it until the first victims spoke up about it.[/QUOTE] Don't you bring Griffin McElroy into this. Don't you fucking dare.

I'm really quite devastated. For the time being i'm fully on his side, i can't believe this. But if we get confirmation then Christ, i won't know what to think.

I have a hard time believing that the McElroys knew anything about this. They don't seem like the kind of people to just let something like that go if it were true.

No names were mentioned, just that Nick was known to be a problem in the industry for a while, and it came out because of his Overcooked! rant

Guys, we've had a man on the inside for a long time. [media]https://twitter.com/StrengthBuild/status/881802240712945664[/media] Tony Name has been investigating this since July 3rd. Tony Name is the key to all of this. We need Tony Name.

This is really upsetting and disappointing to me. I've been watching all his videos with Griffin recently and thought that he seemed like such a funny and nice guy, and to see this really hurts. I [I]really[/I] hope it turns out to be false, but from how many people have come out and said something + big name people cutting ties, I'm not optimistic.

I just saw this post on the Coolgames Inc (podcast that he co-hosted) subreddit: [quote]"I've known Nick for a vast amount of time now, and I believe these allegations of predatory behaviour are 100% true. Nick has always been a nice person to me whenever we've run into each other. I follow him on Twitter and enjoyed watching his work. However, due to these tight communities within the gaming industry, I've heard multiple stories regarding his predatory tendencies from good friends and associates of mine. I wish I could speak more for victims of harassment that I know personally, but I can't. This is all very disappointing, and I hope Polygon takes action against him. Having someone on their editorial team who openly harasses game developers and sexually harasses industry members is not something they should stand behind."[/quote] This, coupled with the fact that his two co-hosts on podburglars were super eager to distance themselves from him is sign enough for me that he's probably done some predatory stuff.

Excuse me, but when you have a website built around feminist outrage pointing fingers at someone, it's not weird for people to want to know what actually happened before they form an opinion on the matter. For all I know this could be massively overblown drama. This shit has "listen and believe" written all over it.

It's really goddamn annoying that this whole thing is "boiling over" and spilling all over public media in vague tweets and baseless accusations whilst the same people and their followers vehemently reject the very idea of asking for solid proof, in the name of "privacy", man if you're not willing to go fully public why did you smear someone in public I'm all for listen and believe, in the original context. I think it's a good philosophy. But there's barely anything to listen [I]to [/I]and believe, currently. I'm not saying anyone's guilty or innocent but these are high-profile people, a smear like this can impact a career even if it's proven baseless, and there are people out there with motives to do so. They claim there's a lot of talking behind the scenes and cliques in game dev/game journalism but that goes for them, too

[QUOTE=Funktastic Dog;52541292] This, coupled with the fact that his two co-hosts on podburglars were super eager to distance themselves from him is sign enough for me that he's probably done some predatory stuff.[/QUOTE] A lot of it seems like people trying to save face, having worked closely with someone that might possibly have been going around harassing women. But who knows, it's a complete mess. Whether Nick did these things are not doesn't matter at this point, his career is already shattered.

The amount of people buying this shit is stupid. We have some guy who pulls some sexual harrasment thing out of his ass because he's mad at Nick or something (technically I don't blame him for being mad since that Overcooked tweet was rude as shit) and everyone thinks that it's the word of God,that he actually did it! What's to prove this? Some tweet about jerking off to a fictional character? Face it,most of us did and we are not fucking monsters,he might've said it jokingly or whatever,nah doesn't matter context doesn't matter in this day of age. Also for some reason people are saying his career is ruined? You do realise that Nick still has the chance to prove him he's wrong right? But who am I to judge,second chances don't exist anymore.

[QUOTE=weyu6572;52541347]The amount of people buying this shit is stupid. We have some guy who pulls some sexual harrasment thing out of his ass because he's mad at Nick or something (technically I don't blame him for being mad since that Overcooked tweet was rude as shit) and everyone thinks that it's the word of God,that he actually did it! What's to prove this? Some tweet about jerking off to a fictional character? Face it,most of us did and we are not fucking monsters,he might've said it jokingly or whatever,nah doesn't matter context doesn't matter in this day of age. Also for some reason people are saying his career is ruined? You do realise that Nick still has the chance to prove him he's wrong right? But who am I to judge,second chances don't exist anymore.[/QUOTE] you're ignoring the fact that people who know him WAY better than any of us are "buying into this shit" and that pretty clearly says there's some form of hard evidence that they're not going to air out in the open because it's none of our business

[I][B]urrrgh[/B][/I] goddamnit

I've been wondering this recently but why does this sort of stuff always get put on Twitter before contacting any authorities etc, do we even know any sort of authorities have even got involved yet?