Oxford plans to ban petrol and diesel cars, vans, and buses from 2020 - Sensationalist Headlines

[QUOTE=MrBunneh;52814757]sorry lol, I was just basing my statements off of a leading mechanics subscription magazine based in Australia, with a large focus on preparing mechanics for the electrical future, written entirely by experienced professionals with decades under their belt :v:[/QUOTE] Does it have a name?

As long as they leave the ring road car-open... Also good luck getting work vans banned from the city centre. Even better luck convincing essential companies like mine to buy ECVs.

[QUOTE=Paul-Simon;52814780]So... Stuff written by someone with a heavy bias, basically?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Morgen;52814815]Well now you know it's full of shit.[/QUOTE] stuff written by people who actually work in the automotive industry, actually seeing what cars people are driving, how they're driving them, and what works and doesn't work longevity wise. these people also realize electric cars are going to be the future, but more along the lines of 2040+, not 3 years from now :v: [QUOTE=OvB;52814832]Does it have a name?[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.tat.net.au/[/url] tbh the magazine is more about diagnosis procedures for finding tricky/well known niggle faults in specific model cars.

[QUOTE=jimhowl33t;52814651] And I almost forgot trans-oceanic delivery. Jesus christ the emissions of diesel cargo ships make ICE cars' exhausts look like unicorn giggles in comparison. Banning all petrol cars ain't gonna do shit for the environment until you do something about the fat sea bastards.[/QUOTE] Emissions from large ships are quite bad (especially sulfur emissions), but it's not a fair comparison. Per ton of transported goods, ocean shipping is quite clean. If we moved all the goods hauled by ship to trucks and planes the emissions would be much, much worse.

[QUOTE=MrBunneh;52814922]stuff written by people who actually work in the automotive industry, actually seeing what cars people are driving, how they're driving them, and what works and doesn't work longevity wise. these people also realize electric cars are going to be the future, but more along the lines of 2040+, not 3 years from now :v: [url]http://www.tat.net.au/[/url] tbh the magazine is more about diagnosis procedures for finding tricky/well known niggle faults in specific model cars.[/QUOTE] And a diagnostic magazine would know about the environmental impact of battery production how? Why would they even really know anything about crash safety beyond government beyond government ratings? The only thing they should be able to comment on would be ease of repair.

[QUOTE=Morgen;52814974]And a diagnostic magazine would know about the environmental impact of battery production how? Why would they even really know anything about crash safety beyond government beyond government ratings? The only thing they should be able to comment on would be ease of repair.[/QUOTE] So what qualifies you to comment on it? See, others can do it too. That's why people don't use that logic.

[QUOTE=MrBunneh;52814757]sorry lol, I was just basing my statements off of a leading mechanics subscription magazine based in Australia, with a large focus on preparing mechanics for the electrical future, written entirely by experienced professionals with decades under their belt :v:[/QUOTE] Well, it was wrong anyway by a big stretch [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_lithium_production[/url]

[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;52815378]So what qualifies you to comment on it? See, others can do it too. That's why people don't use that logic.[/QUOTE] I've cited sources? I'm not an expert and can only go off what those who are say. A random automotive mechanic magazine that we haven't actually seen any content on the subject from isn't particularly credible. Maybe they cite sources? Who knows? But if they don't then it's about as good as me posting something without a source. For all we know it could just be some sponsored article in the magazine from the Koch brothers.

EVs do a hell of a lot better for easing local air pollution which is what this band is primarily about.

[QUOTE=Morgen;52815397]I've cited sources? I'm not an expert and can only go off what those who are say. A random automotive mechanic magazine that we haven't actually seen any content on the subject from isn't particularly credible. Maybe they cite sources? Who knows? But if they don't then it's about as good as me posting something without a source. For all we know it could just be some sponsored article in the magazine from the Koch brothers.[/QUOTE] I understand, and I'm not saying you're wrong here. But an appeal to authority is never a good method when you can easily disprove claims with sources.

[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;52815460]I understand, and I'm not saying you're wrong here. But an appeal to authority is never a good method when you can easily disprove claims with sources.[/QUOTE] You are correct, I should've just dismantled his argument further.

honestly it would probably be a lot more simple if a law or such as implemented sooner rather than later to restrict fossil fuel cars from being sold and only allow electric cars to be sold once ev's have enough juice to actually travel more than 200 miles and charge faster than a turtle trying to cross a road