[QUOTE=paul simon;38606135]
What do you mean by missing API?[/QUOTE]
The modding API that's been "in development".
I like the genre of Minecraft, it just isn't a good example of it. And the developers just have no vision for it. Minecraft just feels so... unfinished and uninspired. Doesn't give a feeling at all like Infiniminer or Dwarf Fortress or... anything. There's just no feeling to it.
Infiniminer was good because it was simple and gave you a very clear goal of what you do, it felt like it was finished. Dwarf Fortress feels inspired and the work of a genius and a madman.
There's practically zero depth to Minecraft beyond the blocks. And any game in this new genre will be defined by the block placing, so what's so great about that?
Minecraft was pushed out way too early in the development cycle. The game feels like it should be in alpha. Nothing is really finished and everything is broken in one way or another. Every transition, from classic to survival, alpha, beta, and release, all felt forced.
Minecraft should never have gotten nearly as popular as it is. Everybody wants to make a Minecraft clone instead of innovating in the genre. Now we're stuck with one mediocre game and a thousand copies of it. And anything that DOES innovate gets decried by a ton of people as a clone anyway. Even if it isn't close to Minecraft, because apparently Notch invented the fucking cube.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/poN8C.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=lulzlalz;38606800][img]http://i.imgur.com/poN8C.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
OH, the lost potential. WHY!
[QUOTE=A_Pigeon;38604562]It's more of a "We only ripoff mods that we can code a shitty version of ourselves " policy, but yeah.
Honestly, I'd love to support a minecraft ripoff coded in a proper language like C that actually allowed modding.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://minetest.net/[/url]
[QUOTE=superstepa;38606879][url]http://minetest.net/[/url][/QUOTE]
I've played minetest. Very nice for an early WIP, but it's rendering is quite... odd. For a WIP though it's fantastic. Optimization is a must on the CPU side of things though.
[QUOTE=superstepa;38606879][url]http://minetest.net/[/url][/QUOTE]
Does it have one of these?
[img]http://i.imgur.com/Nox0j.png[/img]
If so, it has surpassed minecraft.
[QUOTE=lulzlalz;38606800][img]http://i.imgur.com/poN8C.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Fuck, I really miss my indev and infdev saves right now.
I lost them when we formatted for windows 7.
[QUOTE=NoNameForEvil;38602085]i really think that they should be working on stuff like improving combat right now, instead of working on redstone (which is pretty much useless apart from building doors)
i think making the combat not ridiculously terrible (and giving different swords an actual purpose) is way more important[/QUOTE]
It's a fucking building game. Most of the stuff you do isn't to serve a purpose.
same argument can be made for all games
[QUOTE=geel9;38605445]I really fucking hate when people who know nothing about programming (see: "A_pigeon") go on a rant about how Java just "isn't cut out for Minecraft!!!!!"[/QUOTE]
Games like Minecraft and Wurm Online (both games notch worked on) have good ideas and great potential, but are horribly bottle necked by Java.
I really don't think Java is a good language to make large-scale games on from what I've seen.
They kind of screwed themselves into a corner, so there's really nothing to do that fits into the game well. Instead of going in one direction or having a constant "theme", they just slapped on shit half-hazardously as the game went on. They can't make the game good on it's own without changing the game completely, and it's just too late for that, and I don't think anyone wants to do it anyway. I think all that is left to do is the Modding API, obvious things like upward redstone and slabs/stairs for most blocks, and (please fucking allocators dear god) "fix" generation.
[QUOTE=Rammlied;38608575](please fucking allocators dear god)[/QUOTE]
[url=http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Redstone_Update]Supposedly happening.[/url]
[quote]A way of sucking up items into a container/transport items between containers
This will most likely be a revised form of the Allocator idea[/quote]
[QUOTE=Matt-;38605670]
As for 1.5. Where the hell is the modding API they promised [b]last year[/b].[/QUOTE]
once again, the two full time API developers are busy rewriting large parts of the engine so that a reasonable API can actually be made
I'm glad combat is sorta being redone, even in singleplayer, hitting enemies with swords almost guarantees a hit on you as well, blocking just negates minute amounts of damage.
Also, villagers STILL don't really do anything than really stupidly expensive exchange prices for items.
I just want some new biomes in the vanilla game.
The atmosphere for adventuring has died a long time ago for me, the biome generator isn't very impressive either.
[QUOTE=Brt5470;38603770]Hows that Mod API coming along...[/QUOTE]
So badly that the community pretty much made their own :v:
[QUOTE=lulzlalz;38606800][img]http://i.imgur.com/poN8C.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Could anyone please explain what is so exciting about this picture? People are constantly posting it and saying they wish it still existed.
What is it... some kind of glitch? Floating islands in a void or something?
[QUOTE=Sobek-;38609553]Could anyone please explain what is so exciting about this picture? People are constantly posting it and saying they wish it still existed.
What is it... some kind of glitch? Floating islands in a void or something?[/QUOTE]
Was an awesome "biome" in indev
With all the money Notch has to have a yearly Autistic conventions in places like Disneyland Paris, you would think he could hire a professional team of programmers/artists instead of some ginger in a ponytail.
You know, to work on that game minecraft.
The one with 8 million copies sold.
That game that keeps Mojang alive.
But nah, they can go make some awesome card based turn based strategy game that looks like it came off newgrounds back in 2003.
Why does my gut tell me that Notch is going to release minecraft on the Wii U?
[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;38609832]With all the money Notch has to have a yearly Autistic conventions in places like Disneyland Paris, you would think he could hire a professional team of programmers/artists instead of some ginger in a ponytail.
You know, to work on that game minecraft.
The one with 8 million copies sold.
That game that keeps Mojang alive.
But nah, they can go make some awesome card based turn based strategy game that looks like it came off newgrounds back in 2003.[/QUOTE]
you know the bukkit devs are working on the api right
like, maybe try doing basic research before making objectively incorrect posts
[QUOTE=A_Pigeon;38603806]This would require a new engine and codebase and a complete reworking of gameplay. Not [URL="http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Adventure_Update"]like it was promised or anything[/URL], but still. Honestly, minecraft HAD potential, but Java's limits combined with the slowness and stupidity in development killed the game.
Honestly, Minecraft is a game I want my money back for. The features we were promised never came. I'd rather give the money to the teams behind the Minecraft mod makers to make their own game. Minecraft just isn't a game. It's an engine that Notch keeps pretending is a game. It isn't worth $40, it isn't even worth the 15 I paid in alpha.[/QUOTE]
I don't want you to be right but I think you're right.
It is bullshit when Notch was paid money, when he promised features, and those features never get added.
[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;38609832]With all the money Notch has to have a yearly Autistic conventions in places like Disneyland Paris, you would think he could hire a professional team of programmers/artists instead of some ginger in a ponytail.
You know, to work on that game minecraft.
The one with 8 million copies sold.
That game that keeps Mojang alive.
But nah, they can go make some awesome card based turn based strategy game that looks like it came off newgrounds back in 2003.[/QUOTE]
To be honest, jeb is actually decent at coding.
i honestly don't understand what the moaning was about
when i bought it back then i knew what i was buying and it was a pretty great 15 dollars that i spent in which i got more than my money's worth
[QUOTE=thisispain;38610082]i honestly don't understand what the moaning was about
when i bought it back then i knew what i was buying and it was a pretty great 15 dollars that i spent in which i got more than my money's worth[/QUOTE]
minecraft was pretty objectively incomplete on release and still is
but the whinging about the mod api has very little to do with that
I'd say my purchase of Minecraft was worth it from a purely time spent/money spent ratio before it even left beta. Any updates that come out now are just icing on the cake.
To be honest, the only way to get me interested in this game is them finishing that mod API. I host a server from time to time for my friends but with all the small and meaningless changes every update brings things get boring fast. I'd put mods on it but my friends aren't really tech savvy and if another person wanted to join I'd have to teach them to install mods, which would get tedious.
I'm just mad that they haven't put in ham sandwiches yet. That was what, 2 years ago?
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