[QUOTE=kill3r;45154564]
It's different from your average first person shooters and brings a lot of new things to the table[/QUOTE]
If we were talking about 1.6 you'd be right. GO has all the nice matchmaking and community features and stuff but the gameplay's not far removed from the original at all.
Honestly if 1.6 had those same features, I'd rather play that than GO.
[QUOTE=Morbo!!!;45154598]If we were talking about 1.6 you'd be right. GO has all the nice matchmaking and community features and stuff but the gameplay's not far removed from the original at all.
Honestly if 1.6 had those same features, I'd rather play that than GO.[/QUOTE]
actually there are a lot of new strategies made for go, and some strats from 1.6 don't work in go at all.
[QUOTE=Morbo!!!;45154598]If we were talking about 1.6 you'd be right. GO has all the nice matchmaking and community features and stuff but the gameplay's not far removed from the original at all.
Honestly if 1.6 had those same features, I'd rather play that than GO.[/QUOTE]
I think the fact that CSGO has molotovs and the CZ-75 alone makes shit way different from the previous CS games.
no half life 2
seriously?
:rolleyes:
[QUOTE=3221drdew;45154698]no half life 2
seriously?
:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
its on there ya dumb dingbat
[QUOTE=elevate;45154702]its on there ya dumb dingbat[/QUOTE]
i must be going blind then. :suicide:
Where is DOOM, Half Life 1, System Shock 2 or Bioshock? Alot of classics have been missed IMO.
Can we just say for the sake of discussion that if a game appears on the list it represents its entire franchise? Half Life 2 is representing all Half Life games, same for Deus Ex and Rainbow Six.
[QUOTE=BeardyDuck;45154625]actually there are a lot of new strategies made for go, and some strats from 1.6 don't work in go at all.[/QUOTE]
I'm not trying to say that GO is just 1.6 with shinier graphics, when you've played enough of each game yeah the differences are plain to see. What I am saying is there isn't anything new and innovative about the gameplay its self.
[QUOTE=O'Neil;45154363]Why not bad company 2? Compared to the other games at its time It was fairly great and free map packs for PC. It certainly felt more destructive then BF3 or BF4 was ever to me, honestly even the SP was quite amusing.[/QUOTE]
Mostly because the list is small so just being very good doesn't cut it. Also 1942, 2, and 2142 deserve the spot more, but yes BC2 was much better than 3, and leagues above 4.
[QUOTE=Gatekeeper828;45154335]I agree with what you said except for the fact that you included CSGO. How the fuck is that not one of the best PC shooters?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=kill3r;45154564]Care to explain? It's the biggest and most competitively played FPS on the PC
It's different from your average first person shooters and brings a lot of new things to the table[/QUOTE]
Even among CS, 1.6 would deserve that spot way more. Failing 1.6, Quake 3, Tribes, and Painkiller 1 all deserve the spot more. It's not about GO not being good, just that there are better ones out there. Age by itself shouldn't really influence a Top X list.
[QUOTE=Genericenemy;45154790]Where is DOOM, Half Life 1, System Shock 2 or Bioshock? Alot of classics have been missed IMO.[/QUOTE]
While I think bioshock is a great game, it was a horrible shooter.
the definition of "first person shooter" is so loose these days. any game with first person and guns is now considered an FPS.
half of the time in DXHR is spent in 3rd person anyway, if you play it stealth.
[QUOTE=HammerBrute;45155331]the definition of "first person shooter" is so loose these days. [B]any game with first person and guns[/B] is now considered an FPS.
half of the time in DXHR is spent in 3rd person anyway, if you play it stealth.[/QUOTE]
That's... kind of the definition of a [B]F[/B]irst [B]P[/B]erson [B]S[/B]hooter.
But yeah, pretty awful list in my opinion.
PCgamesN is such a joke
Well at least their articles are consistently shit so that's a plus I guess.
[QUOTE=O'Neil;45154363]Why not bad company 2? Compared to the other games at its time It was fairly great and free map packs for PC. It certainly felt more destructive then BF3 or BF4 was ever to me, honestly even the SP was quite amusing.[/QUOTE]
I had a lot of fun with BC2. Probably more than with BF3.
The RSS bots should use a filter against these "The x best blabla" clickbait articles. Every time they come around, there are several pages of comments in no time.
[QUOTE=Genericenemy;45154790]Where is DOOM, Half Life 1, System Shock 2 or Bioshock? Alot of classics have been missed IMO.[/QUOTE]
golden eye?
[QUOTE=Brt5470;45154487]Why would RO2 be on any top FPS list. RO1, sure.
I would probably go with source instead, personally.[/QUOTE]
CS:GO is better than source in every way imaginable
No Thief, no HL1, no System Shock, no Doom, no Deus Ex, no Quake, all games that set new standards and actually shaped gaming and pushed it further as a whole, yet Titanfall gets over them?
This is probably the worst fucking list I have ever seen, only one I can agree with is F.E.A.R because it truly is one of the best FPS, at least when it comes to being first person and shooting. STALKER I can kind of agree with but id put SoC over CoP and it wouldnt be on the top 15 but it would be up there.
How the fuck is "THESE ARE MY OPINIONS" news?
Also really CSGO? I admit it's a relatively good game, but it's basically what Source was from 1.6 except with more similar recoil that both Source and 1.6 players can phase into. I'm calling bullshit on that. CS1.6 deserves that spot way more than CSGO. And why is TF2 #1? TBH it was great years ago, shit now. TFC is where it's at because that isn't influenced by cosmetics and shit economy.
[QUOTE=Gatekeeper828;45154335]I agree with what you said except for the fact that you included CSGO. How the fuck is that not one of the best PC shooters?[/QUOTE]
because css' gameplay is lightyears better?
All these games on this list are good for reasons provided, but calling them the 15 best is laughable, and that's not even because I disagree, it's because making a "best X" list for something so subjective is dumb.
[QUOTE=.Lain;45155701]CS:GO is better than source in every way imaginable[/QUOTE]
1.) Source doesn't have the occasional "ANYONE WANNA TRADE"
2.) Source has easy-to-do modding
3.) Source has BHopping
4.) Source has a deagle that wont miss a second shot at point blank
5.) Source doesn't lag in the menus for no fucking reason and crash every so often.
You can say you personally think it's a better game overall, but it's fucking stupid to say "every way imaginable" because in that case you're more wrong than Hitler.
Well I don't think I really need to read farther into this when they say Call of Duty 2 is the best Call of Duty and not, you know,[B]- United Offensive -[/B]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R9JzT-66Yg[/media]
Please, explain how this shit was topped ever in the "shit is real" category?
Sigh, PCgamesN and its lists again..
[QUOTE=gk99;45155766]1.) Source doesn't have the occasional "ANYONE WANNA TRADE"
2.) Source has easy-to-do modding
3.) Source has BHopping
4.) Source has a deagle that wont miss a second shot at point blank
5.) Source doesn't lag in the menus for no fucking reason and crash every so often.
You can say you personally think it's a better game overall, but it's fucking stupid to say "every way imaginable" because in that case you're more wrong than Hitler.[/QUOTE]
1.6 is the best because
1. Best movement(goldsrc baby)
2. Best gun models(Thinner, cleaner, feels way better to use even based on looks)
3. Best sounds(very important actually to gameplay)
4. Longer timelimit for comp play(more tactical matches)
5. As easy modding
6. Way easier mapping(Almost purely geometry instead of props like source)
7. Func_vehicle, Func_mortar, turret functions, VIP, Escape(all add lots of options for custom maps)
8. Incredible netcode and hit detection(most important)
9. Cleanest(Extremely easy to pick things out)
10. Deagle is the least ass and best model.
1.6 is still the best
I think the article should just replace CSGO with the entire CS series. Each game has their benefits and downsides and I think we can all agree that CS is one of the best things in the PC FPS community. 1.6/Source are great for modded gamemodes and mods in general while CSGO offers a lot of support towards the balance of just normal competitive play.
I personally prefer CSGO out of the three though, since I'm tired of Source and I like playing competitive with my friends.
[QUOTE=gk99;45155766]
4.) Source has a deagle that wont miss a second shot at point blank
[/QUOTE]
exactly. the whole point of css was that it was about precision, something thats been completely removed from csgo, creating a bastardization somewhere in the middle of left 4 dead and call of duty.
[editline]20th June 2014[/editline]
if you took a survey, you'd find that almost everyone that loves csgo, are people who were really bad at 1.6 and css. people who can't aim. people who rely on reaction time and spray rather than actual aim.
[QUOTE=acds;45154234]Titanfall
CS:GO
RS: Vegas 2
PS2
BF: BC2
DayZ
FC3
DX: HR
None of those have a place on a top 15 list, quite a few wouldn't have a place in a top 100 either.[/QUOTE]
I consider RSV2, FC3 and DX:HR among my favourite first person shooters of all time, so they're definitely on my top 15, hell probably in the top 10.
I really, really like to see customization in a game and RSV2 had that down perfectly, you got to see your dude in 3rd person while in cover while not being an incredibly cumbersome system. The game on Realistic was extremely hard, so the Coop was extremely fun and teamwork was essential even in public servers. Add on good gunplay and a ton of guns to use, and you've got something exceedingly enjoyable to play.
DX:HR has a great plot, aside from a "meh" ending with good themes, the locations/setting is interesting and there's plenty of replayability value. I have seen very little come within its level of excellency.
FC3 has very good gunplay, good sounds, good locations, good graphics, a ton of different weapons and feels very fun in action. I cleared all of the bandit camps on the map as I went through them on my first playthrough because I enjoyed the combat that much.
BFBC2 is the only MP FPS I've ever played for an extended period of time as I have with TF2, so that might take 14/15 just for the sheer awesomeness of the cover/building destruction mechanics in that game.
[QUOTE=Rusty100;45155894]exactly. the whole point of css was that it was about precision, something thats been completely removed from csgo, creating a bastardization somewhere in the middle of left 4 dead and call of duty.
[editline]20th June 2014[/editline]
if you took a survey, you'd find that almost everyone that loves csgo, are people who were really bad at 1.6 and css. people who can't aim. people who rely on reaction time and spray rather than actual aim.[/QUOTE]
getting across the map headshots with the source/1.6 deagle was so goddamn satisfying. still possible in GO, but it's obvious they're definitely sidearms now
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